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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

thexerox123 posted:

Haha, that's hilarious. Spongebob has probably done so much over the years that they could theoretically use it to justify a lot of things.

Haha, I love that the Spongebob excuses is an actual thing. I wonder if in future nick programs will use the 'Korra excuses'.

What do you mean I can't encase the villains head and metal then have their head exploded. Korra did it!'

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TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009




Zaheer was a great badguy and would have made a good reformed villain if the show went on longer.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

thexerox123 posted:

Haha, that's hilarious. Spongebob has probably done so much over the years that they could theoretically use it to justify a lot of things.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
I just realized that the space sword never came back.

:smith:

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY


Korrasamako.

Lady Gagazula
Aug 13, 2005

Can't read my
Can't read my
No he can't read my
Joker Face
Melman

The Sharmat posted:

Holy loving poo poo.

Don't forget about Tenzin.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Lady Gagazula posted:

Don't forget about Tenzin.



Definitely don't

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
Indeed.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
This stream is interesting: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/535791/events/3674802

Also (if you believe what they're saying), then Korra and Asami's relationship was planned and mostly completed before Book 3 even aired so it wasn't just a reaction to people misreading strictly-friendship scenes in the third season.

TheDon01 posted:



Zaheer was a great badguy and would have made a good reformed villain if the show went on longer.

I was honestly kind of wondering if they'd break him out and have him help take down Kuvira at some point.

Miss Nomer
May 7, 2007
Saving the world in a thong

Lady Gagazula posted:

Don't forget about Tenzin.



Here's Su on the left:

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
Anne Heche: Joins the show's cast in season 3

Korrasami: Starts developing in season 3

Coincidence? No way. The vast left wing conspiracy is true.

a crisp refreshing Moxie
May 2, 2007


They're holding hands! Her and Ellen must be such good friends. :downs:

Jorghnassen
Oct 1, 2007
Glouton des fjords
Being bi is just another way Korra is the opposite of Aang. Aside from all the usual, one can also note that Aang's big bads were firebenders, and Aang fought with the help of spirits. Korra's big bads were waterbenders, a super powerful spirit, an airbender and an earthbender...

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

What should've been the ending of Season 1.

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

fount of knowledge posted:

They're holding hands! Her and Ellen must be such good friends. :downs:

And look at the way she's gazing at Ellen with 100% platonic happiness.

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
I kinda lost track of this show midway through the first season, and I was always meaning to get back into it, but then the negativity about season 2 floating around online made that seem not super important. But recently I decided gently caress it, I remember liking the first few episodes, let's do this.
season one starts off pretty great, and the complaints I remembered about pro-bending being lame turned out pretty silly because it was dropped, violently, by the midpoint of the season. The weakest part is definitely the teen romance stuff, largely because Mako is emotionally retarded. Later the showrunners evidently realized this and made a bunch of jokes about it, but in season one it's not intentional or that entertaining. Korra from the beginning is fascinating in how she differs from Aang, with her bullheaded approach to everything, summed up in her first line as "I'm the Avatar! You gotta deal with it!". Ultimately, though, her development in season 1 rings false because she ends up officially with Mako (when it's sort of clear their relationship will go as well as a house on fire), and because of the asspull deus ex machina involved in reversing what Amon did to Korra.
Also Tarrlok ended up a far more interesting villain than Amon. I understood what they were going for with Amon, but ultimately the reveal undermined him rather than making him fascinating, and then bloodbending was such a brokenly powerful ability that it made for boring fights. Tarrlok's villainy was more compelling, and his final action cemented him as a great character. when I watched that moment, I slow-clapped.
One last thing: I was so relieved they didn't have Asami be a spy, especially because her mecha fight with her father in the finale owned bones (and of course it sets up his heroic sacrifice in the series finale)
Season Two starts out rough for several reasons. First, the aforementioned Korra/Mako couple combusts, and it's not fun to watch, but bitter and kind of depressing. Also while Korra's NO YOU SHUT THE gently caress UP DAD moments with Tonraq and Tenzin made sense from a character perspective, it led her into buying into Uncle Obviously Evil's transparent scheming. The Civil War episodes were bad because everyone took turns tossing around the idiot ball. Varrick had been introduced by that point, and John Michael Higgins just KILLED that role, but he didn't become completely amazing until the back half. And then...the midseason origin of the Avatar story kicks all of the rear end. What can I say about that that hasn't been said? It's great, and it sets up the actual interesting villain of the season, Big Evil Immortal Kite Monster! It also explains the dangling mystery of the lion turtle from the first series. And then the back half of season two is pretty solid up until the 52-Deus Ex Machine Pileup that is the final battle between Unavaatu and Giant Spirit Korra (with assistance from Fairy Princess Jinora?!). Some people dislike the Nuktuk: Hero of the North plotline, and these are people with no sense of fun. and it involves Varrick. cannot emphasize enough how great Varrick is.
Season Three is where the show fulfills its potential and becomes the show it was previously trying and only partially succeeding at being before, with much of the credit of that due to how it moves outside Republic City to focus on the Earth Kingdom and the new airbenders. Also, Zaheer counts as the series' strongest villain, and in terms of the franchise as a whole, only Azula is arguably better. His clearly defined objectives, his awesome crew, and being the series' first airbender villain all add up, and then he murders the Earth Queen, holy poo poo. And then he loving flies. drat. also RIP Zaheer's crew. Another really strong aspect of the third season is the focus on Lin and her family. Up until they arrive at Zaofu, Lin had been an intriguing, badass, but not well fleshed out character. That changes with the introduction of her sister, and then the acupuncture episode, where everything clicks into place. In general, the focus on female characters in season 3 makes the show better (I really love when Asami breaks Korra out of the airship cell).
Season Four has some pacing issues, and I wish Nickelodeon hadn't forced the showrunners into the position of having to cobble together a clip show to fulfill episode order obligations. The biggest thing is that I wanted more for Asami to do, although I understand why it must have been difficult to write for Asami (she's more emotionally stable). Mostly. The Ikki-centric episode was weird though, and that time could've been better spent on Asami or another character.
However, on the whole, it's almost as good as season 3. Korra Alone, Operation Beifong, and the two-part finale have to count among the best episodes of the series. The show dealt with, basically, post traumatic stress disorder in an impressive way. and it brought home the thematic thrust of the series, that its ultimate villain was Korra's own worst aspects, literalized in both the vision of the Avatar state that haunted her and in the character of Kuvira. Avatar: The Last Airbender had a much simpler arc, with an overarching villain stretching across all three seasons. It was a traditional hero's journey, for the most part. The Legend of Korra has a far more complex, modern arc. To use Jungian terminology, it is a struggle between Korra and her shadow archetype. In keeping with Jungian psychology, Korra achieves self-actualization when she reconciles herself to her shadow. The lesson that you can learn from your enemies is in and of itself kind of radical in our Western culture, as we are constantly drawn back to stark battles of good vs. evil despite their lack of resemblance to reality and how they encourage black/white thinking.
AND, the large focus on Varrick and Zhu Li was a good call. They're adorable and wonderful and the best. :allears:

Best Characters: Korra, Lin, Jinora, Asami, Zaheer, Kuvira, Varrick, Tarrlok
Worst Characters: Mako, Unalaaq, Amon, Meelo (season 4), Tonraq

Best Episodes: Welcome to Republic City, The Voice in the Night, When Extremes Meet, Beginnings, A New Spiritual Age, Old Wounds, The Terror Within, Long Live the Queen, The Ultimatum, Enter the Void, Venom of the Red Lotus, Korra Alone, Operation Beifong, Kuvira's Gambit, Day of the Colossus, The Last Stand
Worst Episodes: Civil Wars pt. 1 & 2, The Sting, Light in the Dark, The Calling, Remembrances

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
4 days let to chat it up guys, better get it all out of your system.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
I'm pretty sad that I missed most of these threads for coming to this fandom so late, given they're about to be banned on TVIV forever or something. There was some good stuff in here.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

The Sharmat posted:

I'm pretty sad that I missed most of these threads for coming to this fandom so late, given they're about to be banned on TVIV forever or something. There was some good stuff in here.

Well, that's not exactly accurate.

The threads were fine, most of the time. The issue, and I think Deadpool posted here about it, is the sheer amount of reports this thread generated from either people complaining about the creepy Korrasami posters getting too explicit(like, sexually explicit), people reporting SHM, SHM complaining about absolutely everything, and eventually the mods outright admitting they weren't going to do poo poo about the thread complaints unless people started posting hardcore DA fanporn or something equivalent. This led to inmates running the asylum and trying to institute their own "forum rules" and then trying to report people breaking said rules.

I didn't follow the threads too closely after the season 1 thread when there was a 10 page long argument over whether or not Amon was Aang and people getting extremely defensive when their fan-fiction theories were criticized. Mostly I'd just check in after an episode to see if any cool .gifs were posted.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

The Sharmat posted:

I'm pretty sad that I missed most of these threads for coming to this fandom so late, given they're about to be banned on TVIV forever or something. There was some good stuff in here.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Deadpool told me over PM that while this thread will be locked permanently on January 1st, he's totally down with a postmortem/memorial thread being made like a month later.
So yeah, I think the 10th anniversary on February 21st would be a good time.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
Weird thought: if aliens appeared, what kind of bending would they have?

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Favorite memory from LoK threads: Someone chewed me out for "sexualizing a kids' show" because I posted about Korrasami during book 3. I didn't post anything sexual even. I just said, "Hey these two totally are acting like they're attracted to each other."

Here's some more fan art:

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Rosalind posted:

Favorite memory from LoK threads: Someone chewed me out for "sexualizing a kids' show" because I posted about Korrasami during book 3. I didn't post anything sexual even. I just said, "Hey these two totally are acting like they're attracted to each other."

Here's some more fan art:



It's funny how pointing out a homo/bisexual couple is sexualizing a kid's show while pointing out a hetro couple would not illicit such a response.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

pentyne posted:

Well, that's not exactly accurate.

The threads were fine, most of the time. The issue, and I think Deadpool posted here about it, is the sheer amount of reports this thread generated from either people complaining about the creepy Korrasami posters getting too explicit(like, sexually explicit)
No one ever got sexually explicit about Korrasami except for people who thought that pointing out apparent hints of it were gross perverts who wanted to see *insert explicit description of lesbian sex here*.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Rosalind posted:

Favorite memory from LoK threads: Someone chewed me out for "sexualizing a kids' show" because I posted about Korrasami during book 3. I didn't post anything sexual even. I just said, "Hey these two totally are acting like they're attracted to each other."

I am sorry you were so grievously wronged in this, the Korra thread

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

TheKingofSprings posted:

I am sorry you were so grievously wronged in this, the Korra thread
Realtalk though it is hosed up that saying "Hey these two characters of the same gender seem attracted to each other" can be viewed by someone as "sexualizing a children's show" without them immediately being laughed out of the room and preferably probated.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
It's sad that people cannot understand the difference between love and sex and that you can have one without the other.

MatildaTheHun
Aug 31, 2011

here's the thing donovan, I'm always hungry

The Sharmat posted:

This stream is interesting: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/535791/events/3674802

Also (if you believe what they're saying), then Korra and Asami's relationship was planned and mostly completed before Book 3 even aired so it wasn't just a reaction to people misreading strictly-friendship scenes in the third season.

lmao you ding dongs laughed me out of the thread for calling someone lovingly looking up into someone's eyes and saying "ill do anything for you" romantic, thanks.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
I do that with my bros all the time.

Ravane
Oct 23, 2010

by LadyAmbien
http://actadinerda.com/2014/12/20/oped-the-legend-of-korra-finale-steps-into-bold-new-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-102

Which one of you liars posted this?

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

No one ever got sexually explicit about Korrasami except for people who thought that pointing out apparent hints of it were gross perverts who wanted to see *insert explicit description of lesbian sex here*.

Here's a picture of Asami scissoring, you pervert:



I must admit, yes, Korra appears to be gay. I am disappointed that the showrunners decided to appease their sick tumblr audience in favor of actual plot sense, as Korra and Asami had no previous indication of being homosexual. Oh well, for a show that started out lackluster, I can't say I expected it to finish any better.

Anyway, I always thought of Korra as being a man, given her giant man-like muscles and lower-pitched voice. I can see Asami being straight and falling for Korra's mannish personality. If Korra were feminine, I don't think I could see it happening. So at least that makes sense to me.

Glad to see this thread die in a few days, not sure what was worse, you guys or the show.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Ravane posted:

http://actadinerda.com/2014/12/20/oped-the-legend-of-korra-finale-steps-into-bold-new-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-102

Which one of you liars posted this?


Here's a picture of Asami scissoring, you pervert:



I must admit, yes, Korra appears to be gay. I am disappointed that the showrunners decided to appease their sick tumblr audience in favor of actual plot sense, as Korra and Asami had no previous indication of being homosexual. Oh well, for a show that started out lackluster, I can't say I expected it to finish any better.

Anyway, I always thought of Korra as being a man, given her giant man-like muscles and lower-pitched voice. I can see Asami being straight and falling for Korra's mannish personality. If Korra were feminine, I don't think I could see it happening. So at least that makes sense to me.

Glad to see this thread die in a few days, not sure what was worse, you guys or the show.

:yoshi:

lfield
May 10, 2008
I didn't like the ending because it felt really cheap and tacked on. Hey, we did some gay characters, y'know, kinda. Maybe. Anyway, show's over, see ya.

Like they're trying to get the praise and recognition for it without actually doing it. That might not be the case, but it is how it came off to me as I watched it.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

Ravane posted:

Glad to see this thread die in a few days, not sure what was worse, you guys or the show.
Didn't you toxx over this show? What a hill to die on.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Ravane posted:

6 months probation for me if it turns out Korra is gay, :toxx:. It's freaking Nickelodeon show, obviously she's not going to be gay, but if you have the balls to take me up on this toxx, I commend you cowboy.

danng, too bad she's bi

Sekkira
Apr 11, 2008

I Don't Get It,
I Don't Get It,

Is nobody else glad they decided not to bog down the show with relationship drama?

seravid
Apr 21, 2010

Let me tell you of the world I used to know


giant man-like muscles

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.

Sekkira posted:

Is nobody else glad they decided not to bog down the show with relationship drama?

honestly I wish they did more to avoid it.


But I'm still a 12 year old who just loves kung-fu fites and wishes more of the screen time was dedicated to magic kung-fu.

seravid posted:



giant man-like muscles

check dem lats.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It
Not petite enough, imo

Sekkira
Apr 11, 2008

I Don't Get It,
I Don't Get It,

I'm happy they didn't just go for it for the sake of animating two girls kissing and actually put some sort of bond between them.

I think however they decided to end it, it would have been fine. And it is fine. All the characters get a happy ending and the show closes on a high note.

I just hope if they do decide to revisit this world down the road, that they have a good grasp of the arc they wish to tell and it's not such a production mess.

Sekkira fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Dec 28, 2014

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The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

Rosalind posted:

Favorite memory from LoK threads: Someone chewed me out for "sexualizing a kids' show" because I posted about Korrasami during book 3. I didn't post anything sexual even. I just said, "Hey these two totally are acting like they're attracted to each other."

When did Korra act like she was into Asami in Book 3? Because looking back, in Book 3 at least, that relationship looks like Asami throwing tons of hints at Korra and Korra missing them all because she's too distracted by poo poo that's going on around her. Which is understandable since she was all poisoned and PTSDing in the finale and all.

Sekkira posted:

Is nobody else glad they decided not to bog down the show with relationship drama?

I'm glad. Korra and Asami were the most believable romantic relationship in the show precisely because outside forces made the writers be subtle for once.

Sekkira posted:

I think however they decided to end it, it would have been fine. And it is fine. All the characters get a happy ending and the show closes on a high note.

Lin didn't. The final shot of Lin in the series is of her standing alone, staring mournfully at a kebab.

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