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GutBomb fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Dec 28, 2014 |
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:This might be a massive case of confirmation bias but over the last few years I started to hear far fewer stories about people getting severely injured in car accidents and more about people just dying, meaning that you're either going to make it out of a wreck ok or it's going to be bad enough to kill you outright no matter what safety features are in there. I guess this is ideal? No lifetime of recovery/disability...
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# ? Dec 28, 2014 17:38 |
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 17:34 |
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what the? how did that even? What happened? red bull gives you wings
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 17:48 |
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Slavvy posted:Nah. Seems like a waste of both a car and an engine. I imagine that DB7 originally had the i6 in it in which case pretty much anything would be an improvement
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 18:04 |
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InitialDave posted:The BMW i3 has a carbon monocoque, is significantly lighter than it would otherwise be as a result, while still having a good score for occupant safety, and coming out at a relatively "normal" pricepoint. Speaking of S2000s. It snowed this morning Someone thought driving their S2000 to work was a good idea. It was sitting on the shoulder pointed the wrong way when I went past it
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 19:18 |
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"My foot is my ABS, and my finger is my safety." Don't deny it, you all know this person.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 19:22 |
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veedubfreak posted:Speaking of S2000s. It snowed this morning Someone thought driving their S2000 to work was a good idea. It was sitting on the shoulder pointed the wrong way when I went past it Every time I see a Miata in the snow, the driver has a huge grin on their face. Makes me want to get one as a winter beater.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 19:24 |
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Uthor posted:Every time I see a Miata in the snow, the driver has a huge grin on their face. Makes me want to get one as a winter beater. A Miata with proper snow tyres is pretty much unstoppable in any sane amount of snow, and is exactly as fun as it sounds.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 19:43 |
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Git Mah Belt Son posted:Hah, being a Worcester resident myself...Choice Auto can go eat it. I went there once to look at a BMW they had...never, ever again. (sup worcesterites! ) Geirskogul posted:"My foot is my ABS, and my finger is my safety." Also, I'd like to be thrown free of the accident scene so I don't wear my seatbelt and ExxonMobil suppressed the 75mpg carburetor so THEY could sell shittier gas and force emissions controls on us all. (the ABS in my Forester is fuckawful, but it's probably better than 90% of drivers "oh god I need to stop BETTER STAND ON THE BRAKES AS HARD AS POSSIBLE" slip and slide reenactment)
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 19:54 |
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kastein posted:Also, I'd like to be thrown free of the accident scene so I don't wear my seatbelt and ExxonMobil suppressed the 75mpg carburetor so THEY could sell shittier gas and force emissions controls on us all. Sometimes I'd swear you are channeling yourself in 50 years.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 19:58 |
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kastein posted:Should have taken it through Kelley Square... and directly to the junkyards on Granite Street. Stop at Wings over Worcester while you are there.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 20:15 |
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Geirskogul posted:"My foot is my ABS, and my finger is my safety." Don't forget "My TCS is the gas," and "I firmly believe there have been no advancements in automatic transmission technology in the last 75 years and they are all comparable to a 60's Chrysler auto." *Changes clutch every 1000 mi*
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 20:17 |
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Viggen, I don't have a broken brain, stop projecting.Wojcigitty posted:Stop at Wings over Worcester while you are there. I loving love that place, though normally we hit 5 guys in lincoln plaza, Moe's over on Park Ave, or the chinese super buffet next to harbor freight after a junkyard run Also I'll take a TF727 over a 42RE anyday.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 20:50 |
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Geirskogul posted:"My foot is my ABS, and my finger is my safety." Wasabi the J posted:Don't forget "My TCS is the gas," and "I firmly believe there have been no advancements in automatic transmission technology in the last 75 years and they are all comparable to a 60's Chrysler auto." *Changes clutch every 1000 mi* Automatic cars are terrible, thats true. My clutch is still solid at 69k though. Cage fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Cage posted:My car from 2004 doesnt have abs or traction control, so yes my foot is both of those. Sorry to be that person? What he said. I just practice threshold braking and throttle modulation
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 20:59 |
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Geirskogul posted:"My foot is my ABS, and my finger is my safety." "Don't need safety equipment when you have two tons of American steel "
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 20:59 |
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kastein posted:Viggen, I don't have a broken brain, stop projecting.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 21:16 |
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InitialDave posted:The BMW i3 has a carbon monocoque, is significantly lighter than it would otherwise be as a result, while still having a good score for occupant safety, and coming out at a relatively "normal" pricepoint. Indeed. Although technically the i3's carbon monocoque is bonded to the aluminium chassis that the drivetrain lives in (I still called it a CF chassis in my Ars Technica review).
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 22:16 |
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:This might be a massive case of confirmation bias but over the last few years I started to hear far fewer stories about people getting severely injured in car accidents and more about people just dying, meaning that you're either going to make it out of a wreck ok or it's going to be bad enough to kill you outright no matter what safety features are in there. This has actually been my experience as well. I have transported far fewer very hosed up crash victims, now it's either minor injuries or dead on scene. There is this fun remnant from your days as a fetus called the ligamentum arteriosum. It just sits around all day, tethered to your aortic arch, waiting. One day you strike a telephone pole at 75mph, and three impacts happen. The car hits the pole, you hit the airbag at 75mph, and your organs keep going at 75mph until the ligament tears your aorta in half and you die in the span of a few heartbeats.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 22:16 |
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AI isn't representative of most car owners, just like TFR isn't representative of Bubba. I wasn't saying that a car that has only minimal features is terrible, I was saying those who convince themselves that a lack of those features is BETTER than modern alternatives in EVERY circumstance is retarded, especially when the bias is influenced by their available cars. TLDR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp0QbZWY67s Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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I believe in insurance its referred to as Moral Hazard. The theory being that the addition of safety features has led to people being more likely to take risks while driving because of the belief that they'll be protected by their cars safety features if they gently caress up. Of course according to this theory Volvo Drivers would be bigger cocks than BMW Drivers so take it with a grain of salt.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 22:31 |
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Stats: people are dying less! Goons: only because they're crashing more often! This is like that guy in the OSHA thread complaining that airframe parachutes make pilots want to crash more, thus were a scourge on REAL pilots. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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A Melted Tarp posted:There is this fun remnant from your days as a fetus called the ligamentum arteriosum. It just sits around all day, tethered to your aortic arch, waiting. One day you strike a telephone pole at 75mph, and three impacts happen. The car hits the pole, you hit the airbag at 75mph, and your organs keep going at 75mph until the ligament tears your aorta in half and you die in the span of a few heartbeats. Sweet fancy Moses. I have an Xacto knife and a bottle of Old Crow. How do I remove my ligamentum arteriosum before it becomes a problem?
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 22:40 |
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A Melted Tarp posted:
IIRC, after reading something from the NTSB, this is the main reason die in airplane crashes. The plane hits the ground or water with such force that it literally tears your aorta from your heart and you bleed to death internally extremely fast. A comforting thought...
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 22:58 |
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1500quidporsche posted:I believe in insurance its referred to as Moral Hazard. The theory being that the addition of safety features has led to people being more likely to take risks while driving because of the belief that they'll be protected by their cars safety features if they gently caress up. The book "Traffic" covers this, using skydiving. Skydiving became more and more safe, so people started doing riskier things. The book theorized that humans have a natural risk limit that they will always try to push. Current safety manufacturing has made cars significantly safer, but physics is hard to argue with when forces get extremely strong.
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# ? Dec 29, 2014 23:10 |
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TrinityOfDeath posted:The book "Traffic" covers this, using skydiving. Skydiving became more and more safe, so people started doing riskier things. The book theorized that humans have a natural risk limit that they will always try to push. Current safety manufacturing has made cars significantly safer, but physics is hard to argue with when forces get extremely strong. In terms of automobiles the examples they always gave in my risk management classes in university were things like airbags or crash safety ratings which I don't necessarily think is accurate. Nobody thinks that they can go faster because they think "gently caress it I've got air bags if I crash". Where I do think there is some truth to this idea is with stuff like AWD, ABS and traction control. Where as the safe speed before that technology on a particular road may be X mph and with that technology its now X+10mph in the driver's mind it seems safe to go X+30mph. Which is where physics kicks in hard like you said.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 00:37 |
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kastein posted:
The chinese buffet in Shrewsbury on Rt 9 is the best (of the "super" variety) chinese buffet in the area. The one next to Harbor Freight sort of sketches me out for some reason.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 00:38 |
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Because it's next to a Harbor Freight. I don't know why this is but the hands-down best Chinese buffets almost always seem to be in sketchy, out-of-the-way, 80% occupied strip malls To contribute: I drive a 2013 Flex. I like it: roomy, relatively low to the ground, nimble & easy to park. The main reason I won't buy it when the lease is up: everything is controlled by the computer, which occasionally slips into moron mode, turning on the lights in full day, changing to AM from aux by itself...and then won't permit a change back; repeatedly telling you to SHIFT INTO PARK because THE DRIVER'S DOOR IS OPEN. Also, something in the fuel circuit quit twice in a week. Although I suspect it necromanced back at the dealership & they declared it fixed...the second time it crapped out, they had it for three days. Also the right outer CV joint is eating itself but they won't replace it. 38K. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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I sent in my 2008 Honda Fit to a dealership to get the transmission fluid swapped, an oil change, and a new key made. I can't do the key myself, and I've been too busy to do the other two at home. They couldn't make a new key, and said the input/output on my immobilizer was busted, but volunteered to replace it for another $300 (lolno). Next morning, the car won't start. No weak crank, nothing. It's like the battery was stone dead. The idiots didn't retighten the battery cables after doing their "thorough inspection". The cables could be slid on and off with a finger. I wonder what else they screwed up?
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 03:24 |
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canyoneer posted:The idiots didn't retighten the battery cables after doing their "thorough inspection". The cables could be slid on and off with a finger. I wonder what else they screwed up? Hah, I made this screwup when I replaced my first (or second?) battery. I think I swapped it out in an Autozone parking lot, and only had pliers to loosen/tighten the bolts. I got them essentially finger tight and figured that was good enough. A couple months later, all sorts of issues start popping up. Flickering headlights, random electronics cutting out, car stalling with no warning. I never suspected the battery since it was pretty new, and the car started just fine. Then when changing the oil, I noticed the top covered in dried acid. Luckily, Autozone prorated the replacement pretty well...
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 04:42 |
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1500quidporsche posted:I believe in insurance its referred to as Moral Hazard. The theory being that the addition of safety features has led to people being more likely to take risks while driving because of the belief that they'll be protected by their cars safety features if they gently caress up. It's been my observation that there are two kinds of Volvo drivers: ones that stay in the rightmost lane doing 5-10 under the speed limit, constantly tapping on the brakes every time a leaf blows by, who bought a Volvo because they're terrified of driving; and those who charge straight for the passing lane where they proceed to do at least 10-15 over the limit, alternately tailgating and weaving between lanes cutting people off, secure that none of their actions pose a risk to their Swedish-armoured persons.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:12 |
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edit:nevermind
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:16 |
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I'm a pretty big proponent of anti-lock brakes.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:17 |
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Human Grand Prix posted:I'm a pretty big proponent of anti-lock brakes. I've always hated them, the pulsing just feels lovely and I hate it. I get that they still produce more braking force than my amateur grade threshold braking is capableof, but it still feels like I'm losing control of the car.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:26 |
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xzzy posted:I've always hated them, the pulsing just feels lovely and I hate it. You know what's worse? ABS that when the wheel speed sensor fails, applies the brakes fully. (stolen from my unlucky friend's Facebook page)
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:45 |
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Today it was super icy and my heavy boots make it a lot harder to modulate the brakes. I leaned on the abs a lot more than I usually do.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:47 |
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I'm trying to imagine what driving around in winter would be like in a world where ABS wasn't standard. How were the interstates not filled with the flaming wrecks of cars considering how badly people drive on snow and water even with ABS?
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:52 |
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Chuu posted:I'm trying to imagine what driving around in winter would be like in a world where ABS wasn't standard. It'd be like a snowy winter in the south.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 07:56 |
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Aurune posted:You know what's worse? ABS that when the wheel speed sensor fails, applies the brakes fully. Why is he driving around on bald tires.
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# ? Dec 30, 2014 08:09 |