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If they were to add another companion/recurring character I hope it's not another guy that the other companion is in a relationship with. We've had that throughout Moffat's run so far and I think it's been played-out a bit, something like the tiny amount of Rose/Captain Jack that we got that doesn't have a romantic element would be great.
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Wouldn't mind Faye Marsay playing out that character she did in Last Christmas a little longer as a companion.
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Dec 28, 2014 06:04
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oh my god yes, she was great. I want more Shona. 
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Dec 28, 2014 07:38
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Metal Loaf posted:I imagine the Doctor will (possibly inadvertently) steer the TARDIS into wherever it is Danny ended up at the end of "Death in Heaven", Clara will stay with him, and he won't be able to get back with her. It's just the way things are done. In a place called Bad Wolf Bay...
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Bandanna posted:Wouldn't mind Faye Marsay playing out that character she did in Last Christmas a little longer as a companion. I thought that's what they were telegraphing to be honest.
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Dec 28, 2014 08:43
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Spatula City posted:oh my god yes, she was great. I want more Shona. Definitely. Twelve needs his own Lucie Miller, she's the kind of companion who would properly call him on his bullshit.
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Dec 28, 2014 13:40
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Does Faye Marsay have a sister? Or does she look a lot like another actress? Or has she been in something that's just not listed on IMDB/Wikipedia? Every time she was one screen I had that "oh, it's... that person..." feeling, but I can't recall seeing her anywhere. Echoing her character would make a great companion. Shona + Scottish highlander and/or a Roman and/or a true alien.
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Dec 28, 2014 14:26
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Bandanna posted:Wouldn't mind Faye Marsay playing out that character she did in Last Christmas a little longer as a companion. I really liked Last Christmas but I don't really get the love for this character or actress. She was just inconsequential and there. She didn't stand out to me at all, except for being a little annoying actually.
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Dec 28, 2014 14:33
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I actually thought Natalie Gumede's character (Ashley) was the one being set up as the decoy companion. If Shona was to come back, I've little doubt that there'd be more ongoing relationship drama. I assume that this is the case because the last item on her list was "Forgive Dave?"
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Dec 28, 2014 14:43
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Metal Loaf posted:I actually thought Natalie Gumede's character (Ashley) was the one being set up as the decoy companion. Dave is the doofy guy who was killed first. And I also assumed the same thing about Natalie Gumede's character and would probably of preferred that.
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Dec 28, 2014 14:46
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PriorMarcus posted:Dave is the doofy guy who was killed first. I must have completely missed that. I thought the first guy who was killed was Michael Troughton's character (Alfred?). Obviously, I wasn't paying the best attention.
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Dec 28, 2014 15:03
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Barry Foster posted:Definitely. Twelve needs his own Lucie Miller, she's the kind of companion who would properly call him on his bullshit. Yeah, that would be pretty cool, actually.
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Dec 28, 2014 16:15
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Metal Loaf posted:If Shona was to come back, I've little doubt that there'd be more ongoing relationship drama. I assume that this is the case because the last item on her list was "Forgive Dave?" I'm also annoyed by the hypothetical thing that isn't happening.
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Dec 28, 2014 17:27
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I'm not annoyed. It was only an observation. I didn't mean for it to come off like that.
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Dec 28, 2014 18:07
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PriorMarcus posted:Dave is the doofy guy who was killed first. I don't think Dave was in the episode at all. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Dec 28, 2014 |
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Dec 28, 2014 18:30
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thexerox123 posted:I don't think Dave was in the episode at all. No, Dave was the guy killed first. The whole "Arctic Base/Aliens" bit of the dream was from Shona based on the list at the end and the episode hints a lot that the first guy wasn't real (he was an angry douchebag, exactly as Shona felt about him when she fell asleep.) It's actually a surprisingly deep little bit for Moffat in that he resisted hammering the point in. EDIT: \/ Maybe I'm mistaken then. Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 28, 2014 |
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Dec 28, 2014 18:36
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I'm pretty sure the only person who died was Michael Troughton's character, Professor Albert. Dave didn't appear.
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Dec 28, 2014 18:44
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Dave's not here, maaaaaaan.
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Dec 28, 2014 19:10
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I guess there was nothing to that picture of McGann on the TARDIS set besides just visiting then. After seeing a season with Capaldi, I'd kill for an Eight/Twelve episode. They're the perfect sort of Yin/Yang I think.
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Apparently Clara is back for all of season 9, and says the reason she wanted to stay is because she and Peter Capaldi were just starting to have real chemistry working together, which is, I guess, the best reason she could have given. I hope they don't draw her actual finale whenever she decides to leave, but I'm optimistic that this will give them some stories to work on together where Capaldi can be a bit warmer and she can be a bit less angry with him. Here's the interview I read, if anybody is interested: http://www.themarysue.com/coleman-moffat-clara-doctor-who-future/
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Dec 30, 2014 20:29
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Even with the improvements made to her character this season, I'm still pretty tired of Coleman.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:47
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It'd be cool if they added another companion, but I understand that would mean, you know, paying another salary. Maybe toward the end of season 9.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:52
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I don't think Coleman's bad by any means, I just think her character is played out. What else can you do with her character? They'll inevitably bring Danny back, but then what?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I don't think Coleman's bad by any means, I just think her character is played out. What else can you do with her character? They'll inevitably bring Danny back, but then what? I hope they actually put Danny to rest and this season is about her traveling for awhile while she heals and eventually finding a place she feels like staying.
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Dec 30, 2014 21:03
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I don't think Coleman's bad by any means, I just think her character is played out. What else can you do with her character? They'll inevitably bring Danny back, but then what? Go on fun adventures with the Doctor and not get weighed down by a dumb metaplot?
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Irish Joe posted:Go on fun adventures with the Doctor and not get weighed down by a dumb metaplot? I don't often agree with the above poster but holy poo poo this would be the most preferable outcome by a mile. Now that we have had a season exploring Clara in more depth and showing how she deals with a transition to a new Doctor, let's focus on the Doctor himself.
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Irish Joe posted:Go on fun adventures with the Doctor and not get weighed down by a dumb metaplot? loving hell I'm agreeing with an Irish Joe post.
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drat straight. Capaldi's Doctor needs some focus and development.
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Bicyclops posted:I hope they actually put Danny to rest and this season is about her traveling for awhile while she heals and eventually finding a place she feels like staying. The impossible girl angle is old and completely played out now so I don't see it coming back, but it always intrigued me that there were multiple Clara's out there that "real" Clara could end up taking the place of.
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Irish Joe posted:Go on fun adventures with the Doctor and not get weighed down by a dumb metaplot? It'll never happen. Doctor Who is bizarrely wed to the semi-serial model even though it's basically never worked cuz its wide demographic appeal means it has to make the semi-serial stuff broad and basic enough for kids to get. I hope I'm wrong, but pretty much every season (or half-season) has had this since the revival.
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They really need to poo poo or get off the pot. Either make a very story heavy continuous arc that spans several episodes or over a season or go back to the barely-mattering stuff like Bad Wolf where it's just a tiny thing in all but the finales (which the last season did mostly do. Shame the finale itself was dire.)
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Dec 31, 2014 03:59
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I think the only series with a serial component was 6, all the others were more like vague hints at what the finale would be or random words that showed up a few times.
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Senor Tron posted:The impossible girl angle is old and completely played out now so I don't see it coming back, but it always intrigued me that there were multiple Clara's out there that "real" Clara could end up taking the place of. Orphan Who
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Bicyclops posted:Apparently Clara is back for all of season 9, and says the reason she wanted to stay is because she and Peter Capaldi were just starting to have real chemistry working together, which is, I guess, the best reason she could have given. I hope they don't draw her actual finale whenever she decides to leave, but I'm optimistic that this will give them some stories to work on together where Capaldi can be a bit warmer and she can be a bit less angry with him. Here's the interview I read, if anybody is interested: This is actually a damned good reason. It reminds me Peri. I spent Colin Baker's first season chronically annoyed because all she did was bitch and whine, and the two seemed to have no chemistry together. Then the second season rolled around and they both hit their stride, had real chemistry, and then they changed her out for Mel halfway through. Ugh. That was such a huge mistake.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think the only series with a serial component was 6, all the others were more like vague hints at what the finale would be or random words that showed up a few times. 5 wasn't exactly serialised but it did have a bunch of development for the arc throughout the series ("Cracks exist", "cracks unwrite time", "bye Rory", etc). It wasn't just like we'd heard some random words repeatedly.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:5 wasn't exactly serialised but it did have a bunch of development for the arc throughout the series ("Cracks exist", "cracks unwrite time", "bye Rory", etc). It wasn't just like we'd heard some random words repeatedly.
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Even the RTD seasons were more than just the arc word, they routinely introduced places, villains, concepts and even the ultimate solution to the season in episodes through out.
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PriorMarcus posted:Even the RTD seasons were more than just the arc word, they routinely introduced places, villains, concepts and even the ultimate solution to the season in episodes through out. I think he did the best job of it in seasons one and three. In the former case, one could conceivably have overlooked the Bad Wolf references until the Doctor notices them in "Boom Town" (I'm trying to make myself feel better for being an inattentive 13-year old, here), while in the latter, the Mr Saxon stuff was pretty on the nose, but it meant there were more subtle call backs to stuff like the Carrionite "word magic" from "The Shakespeare Code", which only became important in retrospect (even if Tinkerbell Jesus was probably fairly high up on the list of the stupidest possible uses for it). Of course, as we all know, RTD missed a big opportunity to connect some of his dots when he decided to leave out the lines where the Master was going to thank the Doctor for getting Harriet Jones out of the way for him.
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Bad Wolf is a really terrible resolution, though. I think it was just the arc word, and then it's just randomly something Rose says when she becomes an almost literal deus ex machina. Like, really, she drinks the machine light, becomes a god, and says "I'm the Bad Wolf, which is why that was written everywhere. Thanks for watching." Like, the Dalek Master Plan is sort of seeded throughout the season, but I have a hard time saying that they did a good job with it in season 1.
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Metal Loaf posted:I think he did the best job of it in seasons one and three. In the former case, one could conceivably have overlooked the Bad Wolf references until the Doctor notices them in "Boom Town" (I'm trying to make myself feel better for being an inattentive 13-year old, here), while in the latter, the Mr Saxon stuff was pretty on the nose, but it meant there were more subtle call backs to stuff like the Carrionite "word magic" from "The Shakespeare Code", which only became important in retrospect (even if Tinkerbell Jesus was probably fairly high up on the list of the stupidest possible uses for it). I always appreciated how Season 3 actually did a very good job setting stuff up for the final storyline, or at least using the final storyline to tie the season together. I think every single prior episode from the season gets tied into it somehow, and in a way which actually doesn't feel hamfisted. I think Season 3 gets a lot of flak for the absolutely terrible ending but I personally think it's about as good as the first Smith season and better than any subsequent Moffat season.
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