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Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


xzzy posted:

TCS in my Toyota is goddamn magic, it pulls better in loose snow than any other car I've ever driven. It feels about as confident as AWD.

I just hope I never have to climb a hill at slow speed in snow.. which I hear completely breaks almost all TCS systems.

Actually, from a few video's I've seen, Toyota's and Ford's can handle it okay. On my Tundra I can also disable the TCS temporarily to force wheel spin. But, snow tires are awesome. Drove home on some pretty shittastic roads on Sunday, and handled it without a hiccup. Felt nice to be glued to the road in a truck - my old Tacoma (never bought winters), I was comfortable driving, but I know if things had gone wrong I wouldn't have been able to recover as well. And our Venza is a goddamn mountain goat, the thing is glued to the road.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Also I just realized I posted the phrase "TCS system," it's me, I'm the terrible car stuff.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

jammyozzy posted:

My big Peugeot is the first car I've owned that has ABS (what up no TC/ABS MX5 buddies) but I discovered the other day it's either broken or poo poo-tier because it sure let me lock the rear wheels while still grinding away and keeping the front wheels turning. :psyduck:

Below a certain speed (around 35km/h IIRC) ABS becomes less efficient than simply locking the brakes so a lot of cars don't bother. You may have been right on the threshold of that speed and it could've caused some unusual behaviour.

Or it's just french.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Chuu posted:

I'm trying to imagine what driving around in winter would be like in a world where ABS wasn't standard. How were the interstates not filled with the flaming wrecks of cars considering how badly people drive on snow and water even with ABS?

We did OK. Got the proper tires, drove a lot slower, and didn't behave like assclowns. I practice on new snow & ice in empty lots at the first opportunity, and I've been driving since 1976.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
I drive a car made in 1986 so let me, the cold weather time traveler, tell you how grandpa did things when he was driving uphill both ways in that roaring blizzard of '93

mostly it's very careful application of throttle (not too many speed demons from the 80s so this isn't as big of a problem as you'd think), taking advantage of my expansive greenhouse to be very mindful of what drivers are doing around me and cursing sealed beam headlights for throwing almost no light - this is legit the only thing I can't believe people did without, how the gently caress did we not all die from driving into things in the road that we couldn't see?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

rscott posted:

this is legit the only thing I can't believe people did without, how the gently caress did we not all die from driving into things in the road that we couldn't see?

Let me tell you about commuting to work in a 1960's vw in Portland, OR. Late night, pissing rain. The headlamps being unable to illuminate the backside of the front bumper probably would have been more of an issue if the wipers had in any way been able to clear water off the windscreen.

In fact I might have actually died with a steering column protruding from the back of my neck, and my ghost just hasn't realized it yet.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

rscott posted:

cursing sealed beam headlights for throwing almost no light - this is legit the only thing I can't believe people did without, how the gently caress did we not all die from driving into things in the road that we couldn't see?

It was fine because everyone else had sealed beams so your night vision wasn't being blown out by oncoming HIDs all the time.

In fact, I'd argue it was BETTER, because the dimmer yet adequate lights let you keep more night vision and can therefore better see more outside of the range of your headlights.

Now beam brightness is just an arms race. I'm totally fine in the 80s Porsche at night right until a HID-ladden SUV drives past. Then it takes a bit to regain my night vision (yes, I'm also getting older and I can tell the difference in my night vision because of it).

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Whatever the penance is for Facebook video links, I will pay it.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I think she would have driven in circles around the pump island until the tank ran dry if that other car hadn't gotten in the way.

:downs:

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


It pains me to live in a world where people are that unaware of basic, uh, geometry, I guess?
That's a special kind of stupid that lets you think going around the pump will magically put the gas door on the other side of the car.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Motronic posted:

It was fine because everyone else had sealed beams so your night vision wasn't being blown out by oncoming HIDs all the time.

In fact, I'd argue it was BETTER, because the dimmer yet adequate lights let you keep more night vision and can therefore better see more outside of the range of your headlights.

Now beam brightness is just an arms race. I'm totally fine in the 80s Porsche at night right until a HID-ladden SUV drives past. Then it takes a bit to regain my night vision (yes, I'm also getting older and I can tell the difference in my night vision because of it).

I came to this same realization. Everything is brighter now. Street lights, Highway markers, Everything. I keep driving older cars and kept asking myself "why are my headlights so dim, they are perfectly clear and these bulbs are nice, new, and not lovely what the?" Finally dawned on me that there are more new cars and new light tech thats just simply so bright in comparison that my night vision rarely recovers anymore unless its 3am on a country road. Then, my headlights are awesome.

Makes me sad really.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
Not just headlights either - the normal tails on a modern car are usually brighter than brake lights from days of yore

West SAAB Story
Mar 13, 2014

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 221 days!)

We had about 3" of snow this morning, so I took the gutless Exploder. Everyone was doing about 20mph on the road that they usually do about 60 on (speed limit is 45). Fast forward to the highway that hasn't been plowed, and they all went full retard and were doing at least 75. :psyduck:

Most of my slipping and sliding was done on the uncommonly-traveled roads. Didn't need the Ferd for the trip.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

xzzy posted:

Let me tell you about commuting to work in a 1960's vw in Portland, OR. Late night, pissing rain. The headlamps being unable to illuminate the backside of the front bumper probably would have been more of an issue if the wipers had in any way been able to clear water off the windscreen.
My dad had a 6-volt Beetle during his student days. On country roads he'd turn the headlights off so it didn't interfere with the (better) lighting cast by the moon.

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Dec 31, 2014

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


EbolaIvory posted:

I came to this same realization. Everything is brighter now. Street lights, Highway markers, Everything. I keep driving older cars and kept asking myself "why are my headlights so dim, they are perfectly clear and these bulbs are nice, new, and not lovely what the?" Finally dawned on me that there are more new cars and new light tech thats just simply so bright in comparison that my night vision rarely recovers anymore unless its 3am on a country road. Then, my headlights are awesome.

This x 1000. I hate getting blinded by new lights, where you swear the dude is running his brights. loving kills my eyes and night vision, and I swear I see worse than I used to.
Then I'm at home on the farm, jump in an old 1980's chevy pickup and go for a cruise at night, and realize that yes, I can see outside of the headlight range, because nothing is killing my eyes.

gently caress HID's.

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
I had this recently with a Landrover while driving on the highway, which was also driven by an rear end in a top hat driver apparently. Turns out Landrover headlights are at the exact same height as my rearview mirror, and it only got worse as they tried to crawl up my rear end until they finally moved over to pass me(while the left lane was pretty much devoid of traffic, there was no reason to crawl up my rear)

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Smoke posted:


I had this recently with a Landrover while driving on the highway, which was also driven by an rear end in a top hat driver apparently. Turns out Landrover headlights are at the exact same height as my rearview mirror, and it only got worse as they tried to crawl up my rear end until they finally moved over to pass me(while the left lane was pretty much devoid of traffic, there was no reason to crawl up my rear)

New Explorers (and most other tall trucks with HIDs) have their lights aimed so that the "cut-off" is right in line with my rear-view mirror. Every time one of them is behind me it's like a drat strobe light going off as they pass over small dips and bumps that alternate between putting full power light into my mirror and a normal level of light. It's like they are constantly flashing their high-beams at me.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Terrible Robot posted:

New Explorers (and most other tall trucks with HIDs) have their lights aimed so that the "cut-off" is right in line with my rear-view mirror. Every time one of them is behind me it's like a drat strobe light going off as they pass over small dips and bumps that alternate between putting full power light into my mirror and a normal level of light. It's like they are constantly flashing their high-beams at me.

I get this exact same affect and it's really god damned irritating. This is why I said there should be a law about this. Many newer trucks have their headlights mounted too high.

Solar Coaster
Sep 2, 2009
Light chat:

I totally get what everyone is saying here. My 82 Volvo has a 77 front end, meaning single round headlights and that's it. Like this:


Most other cars around me are so much brighter than i have been seriously considering replacing all my light bulbs in the car with LEDs. Priced it out and it would be around $250 give or take. It's a bit steep, but I feel if I go through with it, my car will be more visible on the road.

Also, thanks to all the brighter lights on the road, makes it harder to see my instrument cluster as well since my interior lights are 30+ years old. Might have to get that upgraded too.

Solar Coaster fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 31, 2014

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
How about the amount of retro reflective signs and road markers to the point that if I turn on my high beams at night I blind myself? So much for seeing those deer standing on the site if the road.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:



:allears:

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Solar Coaster posted:

Light chat:

I totally get what everyone is saying here. My 82 Volvo has a 77 front end, meaning single round headlights and that's it. Like this:


Most other cars around me are so much brighter than i have been seriously considering replacing all my light bulbs in the car with LEDs. Priced it out and it would be around $250 give or take. It's a bit steep, but I feel if I go through with it, my car will be more visible on the road.

Also, thanks to all the brighter lights on the road, makes it harder to see my instrument cluster as well since my interior lights are 30+ years old. Might have to get that upgraded too.

Certainly replace the instrument bulbs, they've probably just worn down and a new set will be enough. If the headlights aren't on relays, adding them may give you enough extra power to make a difference. If not, you'll still have a nice setup. I did all of these in my 72 pickup and haven't felt the need to replace anything else. Although I have an aversion to spending money on things that don't improve how the vehicle runs.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

I get this exact same affect and it's really god damned irritating. This is why I said there should be a law about this. Many newer trucks have their headlights mounted too high.
It wouldn't help much. We have construction and use rules on headlight position on the vehicle, and headlight aim is also controlled (and checked at the annual MOT test), based on projecting a given pattern onto a wall at a set distance. I still get annoying headlight blasts in the Cappuccino, because it's so low compared to other vehicles. It just varies how far away the vehicle is before the beam pattern hits you.

West SAAB Story
Mar 13, 2014

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 221 days!)

InitialDave posted:

It wouldn't help much.

I have grown to hate Xenons. It is getting harder to tell if this is just some rear end in a top hat with his brights on, or with lovely headlights that aren't dipping properly. :sigh:

Evidently mine (stock) in the '08 are obnoxious, too, despite being calibrated and aimed properly. I've been flashed several times. When I flash back I usually get an 'oh poo poo' sort of response. :shrug:

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Schedenfreude thread had car and car-ish stuff that might be of interest to you guys:

Idiots being idiots:
http://www.citynews.ca/2014/09/27/watch-vehicles-turn-around-go-wrong-way-on-hwy-401-to-avoid-traffic/

Posting because salt is terrible car stuff where I live:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/business/7/71/247701/building-collapse-reported-morton-salt-north-side


:3:

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

JazzmasterCurious posted:

Jesus, makes me kind of glad the test here is a nightmare compared to that. Or at least expensive. You can start practicing at 16, and get the license at 18. It'll run you between $1500 to $3000 depending on whether you need more than the obligatory hours behind the wheel with an instructor car. Most fail the theory exam at least once. The practical driving test takes 30-45 minutes with the examiner taking great care to check if you have your wits about you in many situations and can ask you to just "follow the signs to xxxx" etc.

You also need an hour of night driving where you are taught overtaking and correct use of high/low beams; an hour of rural country road driving; and a day at the skid track where you learn how a car reacts in winter-y conditions before you can do the final test.

I did the skid track in an E39 BMW 520i, with the traction control and abs disconnected. A bit strange since most fresh drivers would have a cheap FWD daily driver, but it was fun. I'd driven almost daily in a variety of cars for four years before taking the license and showed good car control, doing power slides on the circular track, so I got to try my hand at bootlegger turns and J-turns on the straight braking part. :v: The poor girl that was teamed up with me needed more basic practice.

E: The power slides are intentional, you're asked to hit the gas to make the rear go out, and try to regain control of the car. If you don't do it properly (wuss out) the instructor will hit the gas without you knowing. You will spin out at least once no matter how good you are. Which is also the point.

Another Norwegian, I see?

DarkSol
May 18, 2006

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

surebet posted:

Schedenfreude thread had car and car-ish stuff that might be of interest to you guys:

Idiots being idiots:
http://www.citynews.ca/2014/09/27/watch-vehicles-turn-around-go-wrong-way-on-hwy-401-to-avoid-traffic/

The lady in the clip says "I don't know who to call or what to do." How about CALL THE COPS if its that worrisome of a problem?

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011

DarkSol posted:

The lady in the clip says "I don't know who to call or what to do." How about CALL THE COPS if its that worrisome of a problem?

Hey let's not get crazy now.

gileadexile
Jul 20, 2012

I have the same poo poo glare issues all the time on my way to work at nights. It's especially bad because all the traffic lights are LED now and are bright as all gently caress and you can't see poo poo around you when they're blasting green everywhere.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

G-Mach posted:

Hey let's not get crazy now.

Yeah I agree. Confused drivers are bad, but I don't think we need to send away to have them killed.

:v: :can:

AveMachina
Aug 30, 2008

God knows what COVIDs you people have



Happy 2015, thread!

Apologies for the potato-phone photos.






Bumper stickers include: local oldies station, Romney/Ryan 2012 (taken in November 2014), and a jiu-jitsu academy. Not pictured: $6.

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
No worse than all the Obama/Biden stickers all over

Vorkosigan
Mar 28, 2012


Found in the work garage:



Also echoing Challengertalk from last page - Get the Scat Pack. I did a custom order (and may hold the record for longest wait time between order and delivery :v:) but it's been absolutely fantastic to drive.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Early 2000's beetle that's not in a junkyard? Odd indeed.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Even if the vanity plate means the guy actually stuffed a V8 into this thing, I still think it's terrible.





Also, I like what he did with the front plate.

"Oh no officer, I do have front plates! See!"

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

Even if the vanity plate means the guy actually stuffed a V8 into this thing, I still think it's terrible.





Also, I like what he did with the front plate.

"Oh no officer, I do have front plates! See!"

I actually swore out loud for the first time while reading this thread. :golfclap:

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

Even if the vanity plate means the guy actually stuffed a V8 into this thing, I still think it's terrible.





Also, I like what he did with the front plate.

"Oh no officer, I do have front plates! See!"

I dunno, the V8 swap, if present, would make this. Looks like a lovely ricer that's all show and no go, but that just makes it that much more surprising if it's actually fast.

KennyLoggins
Dec 3, 2004
Welcome to the Danger Zone

T1g4h posted:

poo poo, my driving test consisted of "Turn right out of parking lot, make a left at that stoplight down there, find a random parking lot and turn around, drive back to courthouse, here's your license now don't kill anybody." here in Arkansas.

:laffo: I remember mine was taking literally 3 rights, backing up about 10 yards in a straight line then the MSP State Trooper said to me "other then the almost giving me whiplash on that last turn you passed".




This thing used to roll around Metrowest MA way back when. Was always weird to follow it and see the Vandura van have brake lights for headlights.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



Jesus, what a little homicidal dick.

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tuna
Jul 17, 2003

Vorkosigan posted:

Found in the work garage:



I just learned that there are absolutely no rollover standards on modern cars. RIP anyone in a convertible during a rollover. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lE88-6TmEA

Although I guess if there were actual rollover standards there would be no more convertibles.

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