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We're up to thirteen votes now: Justin Amash (MI-03) Brian Babin (TX-36) Rod Blum (IA-01) Jim Bridenstine (OK-01) David Brat (VA-07) Curt Clawson (FL-19) Scott DesJarlais (TN-04) Jeff Duncan (SC-03) Scott Garrett (NJ-05) Chris Gibson (NJ-19) Paul Gosar (AZ-04) Louie Gohmert (TX-01) Tim Huelskamp (KS-01) Franco Potente fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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copper rose petal posted:
Why had I never linked those two before. Bravo.
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Evil Fluffy posted:What's going to magically make the people smarter in the next 24 hours? I think you've got far too much faith in the populace at large. Isn't killing a police officer a crime in and of itself?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:10 |
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They're just teasing me, aren't they? No way there will actually be 29 defectors.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:11 |
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Raul Labrador (ID-01), who voted against Boehner last time, votes for him now.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:11 |
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Labrador for Boehner
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skaboomizzy posted:They're just teasing me, aren't they? No way there will actually be 29 defectors. They actually need 35 now because a few members are skipping this for Mario Cuomo's memorial service.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:12 |
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It musta been pretty exciting when this sort of stuff used to happen for presidential nominations.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:13 |
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Joementum posted:They actually need 35 now because a few members are skipping this for Mario Cuomo's memorial service. Down with the Cuomos if we get 30-34 defectors, which we won't.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:13 |
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Josh Earnest just confirmed that Obama will veto the Keystone bill if it reaches his desk. Also, the kids rising with their parents as they vote for Speaker is
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:17 |
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PostNouveau posted:They're drilling in the great lakes? This also does not strike me as a very good idea. Catching up with the thread, but have an article. quote:A major oil spill in the Great Lakes would be devastating to Michigan’s natural resources, the health of our citizens, and our economy, and the boom in domestic oil drilling and Canadian tar sands makes such a spill a real possibility. But the potential for this kind of a catastrophe has been almost entirely missing from the national conversation about expanding drilling. http://www.eclectablog.com/2014/03/expansion-of-oil-drilling-threatens-great-lakes-our-health.html
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:25 |
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Kyrsten Sinema votes for John Lewis because #yolo I guess
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:25 |
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Joementum posted:They actually need 35 now because a few members are skipping this for Mario Cuomo's memorial service. I'm not sure if it was intended, but that might have actually been a pretty good parliamentary maneuver to avoid a fight. With Boehner's abstention, there's 26 Republicans not voting for him as Speaker. The vote would be pretty close with full attendance.
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QuoProQuid posted:I'm not sure if it was intended, but that might have actually been a pretty good parliamentary maneuver to avoid a fight. With Boehner's abstention, there's 26 Republicans not voting for him as Speaker. The vote on C-SPAN includes a few Democrats who didn't vote for Nancy. The absentees are all from the NY delegation (except Peter King, natch) so it's not like Boehner's office coordinated with a bunch of Democrats to stage this.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:28 |
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Apparently Chris Gibson is retiring from his seat, so looks like his Speaker vote is definitely a flip-off to the leadership on his way out the door.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:29 |
#Yoho
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:31 |
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Yoho for Yoho because Yolo
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:31 |
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Did Yoho and Webster not vote, I thought they were Boehner's enemies
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:31 |
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There's a WESTMORELAND in Congress?!
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In a shocking turn of events, Louie Gohmert loses the Speaker election 2 - 213. Dr. Tough posted:Did Yoho and Webster not vote, I thought they were Boehner's enemies They both voted for themselves.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:32 |
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Joementum posted:In a shocking turn of events, Louie Gohmert loses the Speaker election 2 - 213. Of course
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ufarn posted:There's a WESTMORELAND in Congress?! He's most famous for appearing on the Colbert Report talking up his plan to place the Ten Commandments in schools. He then completely failed in reciting them on camera.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:34 |
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Shageletic posted:Catching up with the thread, but have an article. The 60 year old lines are much safer than the newer ones. All the shoddily built ones from 60 years ago are gone, all thats left are ones that were crazily over built because they didn't really know as much about corrosion back then.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:34 |
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Joementum posted:In a shocking turn of events, Louie Gohmert loses the Speaker election 2 - 213. B.b.bbbut that's not the media narrative!
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:34 |
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Joementum posted:Speaker Gohmert now has one vote... from Louis Gohmert. I'm honestly surprised he managed to vote.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:37 |
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Meanwhile, Joe Biden: "A son's a son until he gets a wife, a daughter's a daughter the rest of her life." "Thaddeus, the best guy in the US Senate. I can say that now that you won." To Durbin family member: "Mother of 10? No purgatory for you, straight to heaven." To Durbin's grandson: "You've got some killer eyes. The girls are in trouble." To another Durbin family member, on his wife: "You're lucky. I wouldn't let her get too many steps ahead of you."
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:38 |
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Gravel Gravy posted:Isn't killing a police officer a crime in and of itself? Yes, in most states it automatically increases the sentence or other things like that.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:40 |
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"Oh man, this is boring, boring, boring. Can I borrow your hat?" ~ Biden to young member of Pat Roberts' family. "Oh, thank God you look like your mother." ~ to Pat Roberts' daughter.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Yes, in most states it automatically increases the sentence or other things like that. Yet for some reason they want to make local officer deaths have federal jurisdiction? I imagine they haven't thought things through.
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amanasleep posted:You start out with implying that Obama's admin is hopelessly corrupt and surrounded by yes-men and political appointees (something that Brill doesn't allege in the article), you better have the alternative dialed up. So, first of all, if you listen to the full interview Brill mentions specifically the website rollout was essentially a failure of White House staff and leadership because of yes-men. So instead of reading the "highlights" which is what the article is, listen to the interview. Second, Obamacare didn't "play" doctors, drug companies or device manufacturers at all. It was a boon for all of those lobbying groups. What Obamacare did "target" were the insurance companies who, while being a mixture of corrupt and inept, are not really at fault for high costs. They're the middle men and they're only made to appear like bogeymen by people who don't understand who the real crooks of healthcare in the US are. Their profit margins are relatively small and, in fact, by pushing more customers and costs onto them, you're effectively raising insurance prices for many (not all, but many) other people who already had insurance. Third, in what way does this break forever the link between insurance and employment? The vast majority of people still get their insurance from their employer and their employers are passing down the increased costs of insurance plans to the employees. There doesn't NEED to be the link there anymore, but the inertia is still with the employer-insurance link and unless you legislatively break that link (as in, prevent employers from offering insurance, period), you can't just give people alternative options and expect them to switch. You can't even play that in a long-term scenario because although over time people may switch away from employer-provided insurance, since you didn't do a drat thing to curb costs the system can't handle. Fourth, the assumption that "well more people will be in the system which will inflate costs more so we'll have to do something" is assuming that the political capital is there, cooler heads prevail, and that the two groups can come together with an agreement on how to fix the system. The last time the two groups attempted to fix the system, we got... Obamacare. Furthermore, the idea that people will realize how inflated the costs are and therefore spur further change doesn't make any sense. We already have high costs, our costs are already higher than most other developed nations, and the only people who clamor for change are a small group of liberals who want single-payer healthcare which will never pass because conservatives will never allow it. The new people you give insurance to won't do a drat thing because they have insurance - they don't care about the high costs, the insurance company pays it all! Brill even said in the interview that once he got through his $12k deductible he didn't feel any of the rest of the costs. If you want people to realize costs are too high and the system needs to be changed, you need to take insurance away from them and make them actually feel the drat inflation. Obamacare does the opposite of this, so the idea that it will somehow shift focus on fixing costs because there's nothing else is laughable, and the idea that Congress would then seriously take the sources of the costs to task is even more laughable.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:47 |
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Biden schmoozing away on CSPAN2 is the absolute best.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:52 |
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To attractive granddaughter of Senator Hatch: "I hope you have a fence around your house!"
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:55 |
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What is Biden on?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:55 |
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Looks like Boehner holds on. Here's the final list of the GOP who voted "nay": 1. Justin Amash (MI-03) 2. Rod Blum (IA-01) 3. David Brat (VA-07) 4. Jim Bridenstine (OK-01) 5. Curt Clawson (FL-19) 6. Scott DesJarlais (TN-04) 7. Jeff Duncan (SC-03) 8. Scott Garrett (NJ-05) 9. Chris Gibson (NY-19) 10. Louie Gohmert (TX-01) 11. Paul Gosar (AZ-04) 12. Tim Huelskamp (KS-01) 13. Walter Jones (NC-03) 14. Steve King (IA-04) 15. Thomas Massie (KY-04) 16. Mark Meadows (NC-11) 17. Richard Nugent (FL-11) 18. Gary Palmer (AL-06) 19. Bill Posey (FL-08) 20. Scott Rigell (VA-02) 21. Marlin Stutzman (IN-03) 22. Randy Weber (TX-14) 23. Daniel Webster (FL-10) 24. Ted Yoho (FL-03) Brian Babin (TX-36) (the replacement for Trollmaster-General Steve Stockman) voted "present".
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Amergin posted:
Actually, to your last point, after the aca rollout my job's insurance company implemented new cost transparency web tools and taught people how to use them. United healthcare has a function online where you could shop around for hip replacements, for example, and employees are strongly encouraged to use them so the group rates dont go up for everyone. So since the insurance companies cant just lean on customers now, they're applying pressure to providers to cut costs.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:57 |
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Boehner: 216 Pelosi: 164 Webster: 12 Gohmert: 3 Yoho: 2 Jordan: 2 Jim Cooper: 1 Pete DeFazio: 1 Jeff Duncan: 1 Trey Gowdy: 1 John Lewis: 1 Kevin McCarthy: 1 Rand Paul: 1 Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III: 1 Colin Powell: 1 1 present
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:58 |
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Joementum posted:In a shocking turn of events, Louie Gohmert loses the Speaker election 2 - 213.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:59 |
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Who is Daniel Webster and why did he get so many votes? He doesn't even have a Webster For Speaker website like Louie does.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 20:01 |
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I get that voting districts are jerrymandered to hell so that universally reviled and ineffective leaders like Mitch McConnell retain their seat no matter the circumstances, but how does this work in Senate votes? Do each of these uncharismatic, loathsome, ineffective buffoons keep a vault of photos of politicians diddling children to blackmail them into doing anything?
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What? McConnell is in the Senate, the gerrymandering is from state borders, no districts involved at all. Learn a bit more about the election system?
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