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WitchFetish posted:It feels like I'm arguing with people who have no idea what the gently caress they are talking about from the beginning, and this is honestly kinda scary. Then maybe you should attempt to inform and educate, rather than writing like a condescending jackass in arguments made by people who don't know what they're talking about? I can't read French, so perhaps a post about the publication and some of its notable articles would help to make your argument?
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Yea while my knowledge of them before today was mostly second hand through French family that was big fans, I feel like, being Roma and all, they'd have at least mentioned 'gently caress their racist rear end politics though'. Like yea, have I thought every thing they ever did was tasteful? Nah, I thought more than a couple were downright lazy shock jokes...but that doesn't change that most of their history has been super anti-racist/pro-liberty and poo poo. So, yea they loving are martyrs, they were a voice for unity against tyranny and they had a good bit of their talent murdered because the exact tyranny they argued against was mad, if they're not martyrs for free speech I'd love to know who are.
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El Scotch posted:Maybe someone will shoot Muir for his...whatever he makes. No one will shoot Muir. No one besides us and his echo chamber even pay any attention to him.
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Jan 8, 2015 02:38
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Listen it's sad that 10 people got murdered but some of the cartoons they did were problematic so we shouldn't feel too sorry. No i don't know anything about Charlie Hebdo or the anti-clerical traditions of the French Left? Why do you ask? One of the cartoonists was Georges Wolinsky, an 80 year old  
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Wait.. what if Muir really is Charlie? Just like a very, very, very extended long con satirical experiment about the depths of conservative paranoid thinking.
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joeburz posted:Charlie Hebdo staff were no angels? frajaq posted:They are now this is the only thing in the past few pages that hasn't made me grind my teeth. Kudos.
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Oh go gently caress yourself
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Exclamation Marx posted:Listen it's sad that 10 people got murdered but some of the cartoons they did were problematic so we shouldn't feel too sorry. No i don't know anything about Charlie Hebdo or the anti-clerical traditions of the French Left? Why do you ask? Well, this lead me to something special: 
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Jan 8, 2015 02:46
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snakeandbake posted:Can we please stick to posting retarded opinions in cartoon format please. People died. I must find a way to tie this to Obama!
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Fried Chicken posted:Oh go gently caress yourself  This is pretty lovely too. No condemnation or rebuttal, just "a thing happened."
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I know this is me being naive, but I'd like to think that a massacre wouldn't need explicit condemning to know someone's feeling on the matter.
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Garrand posted:I know this is me being naive, but I'd like to think that a massacre wouldn't need explicit condemning to know someone's feeling on the matter. Maybe I am being too critical. What I don't like about it is that it seems to me like a solemn acceptance of the terrorists' message. Maybe I'm just projecting that though.
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Jan 8, 2015 02:55
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frajaq posted:I was expecting something worse from Ramirez, whew! 
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Jan 8, 2015 02:57
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Brannock posted:This is insane. I'm watching poo poo get rewritten in popular memory, right now, live. Charlie Hebdo is suddenly a racist organization publishing hate cartoons? No you see they drew something I dont understand and don't like, therefore
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Jan 8, 2015 03:00
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Ramirez was a goon all along!
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Jan 8, 2015 03:01
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joeburz posted:No you see they drew something I dont understand and don't like, therefore Therefore we should assume that the people I'm arguing with are acting with full knowledge of the history of this French publication and therefore must be acting nefariously, so instead of illuminating the situation I'm just going to spin a conspiracy theory that paints my opponents in as bad a light as possible.
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Wales Grey posted:Then maybe you should attempt to inform and educate, rather than writing like a condescending jackass in arguments made by people who don't know what they're talking about? I can't read French, so perhaps a post about the publication and some of its notable articles would help to make your argument? In an ideal world, I guess people wouldn't run their mouth without trying to get informed first, but why hope for that...
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Jan 8, 2015 03:07
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beepsandboops posted:I have a difficult time believing that anything claiming to be a Banksy post like 2006 is actually Banksy. There's a lot of street art / political commentary that's credited to Banksy but honestly, is there good way to tell at this point? Fair enough. It's from a semi-official Banksy Instagram account, so it's purposely ambiguous as to whether it really is him or not. Regardless it's real powerful imagery.
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Wales Grey posted:Therefore we should assume that the people I'm arguing with are acting with full knowledge of the history of this French publication and therefore must be acting nefariously, so instead of illuminating the situation I'm just going to spin a conspiracy theory that paints my opponents in as bad a light as possible. If you're going to take objection to what seems to be actual French people talking about the impact yea you should probably know the publication.
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I feel somewhat conflicted on the whole On the one hand, it's tragic that 12 people were senselessly killed by violent fundamentalists for petty reasons On the other, they were French
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So, yea they loving are martyrs, they were a voice for unity against tyranny and they had a good bit of their talent murdered because the exact tyranny they argued against was mad, if they're not martyrs for free speech I'd love to know who are. Not to disagree or anything, but am I the only one who feels like this word has lost all meaning? I feel like "Tyranny" has been used to describe everything from (deservedly or not) Nazis, to Socialism, to Capitalism, to Obama, to govt regulations, to police brutality, to people boycotting Chik-Fil-A.
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Idk but getting mad over people discussing the impact of an event even shortly after it occurs strikes me as the same people who bitch about college and higher education. I mean the whole "oh lets not talk politics now" ordeal is exactly the thing gun nuts use post every single gun related tragedy. No matter what side your on the discussion of an event should never be censored no matter how "to soon" it is.
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Alacron posted:Not to disagree or anything, but am I the only one who feels like this word has lost all meaning? I feel like "Tyranny" has been used to describe everything from (deservedly or not) Nazis, to Socialism, to Capitalism, to Obama, to govt regulations, to police brutality, to people boycotting Chik-Fil-A. Yes please let us avoid using the words they fed us on spoons. Especially in this thread of all threads.
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Alacron posted:Not to disagree or anything, but am I the only one who feels like this word has lost all meaning? I feel like "Tyranny" has been used to describe everything from (deservedly or not) Nazis, to Socialism, to Capitalism, to Obama, to govt regulations, to police brutality, to people boycotting Chik-Fil-A. I think groups like AQ and such count as tyrants.
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WitchFetish posted:In an ideal world, I guess people wouldn't run their mouth without trying to get informed first, but why hope for that... I guess it was too much to ask for a Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 03:21
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I, personally, am mad, on the internet.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I think groups like AQ and such count as tyrants. True enough. That word is just a pet peeve of mine I guess.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:23
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I think groups like AQ and such count as tyrants. Why?
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Wales Grey posted:I guess it was too much to ask for a French guy to actually explain something instead of get into arguments with people?  STOP POSTING
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Jan 8, 2015 03:23
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So, uh, are we going to do anything about this? Sign a petition, have a whip-round to grab cash for the families they left behind? It doesn't seem fair that all we do is yell at each other when poo poo like this happens.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:24
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The world ain't fair, kid. Just keep the tradition of making GBS threads on everything that can't stand to be shat on alive and honored.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:26
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I'm aware the world ain't fair, chum. I just ain't happy to leave it at that.
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No. Don't do this, it's dumb and bad.
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Chamale posted:No. Don't do this, it's dumb and bad. The only thing bad about this is that it's missing a huge gently caress-rear end label right in the middle: CHARB
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^^^ e: I thought the crosshatching was a nice touch. ^^^ I'm going to interrupt the ongoing outrage olympics to say that this is a fantastic cartoon and one the best TTDBs in recent memory (I was starting to worry Bolling had lost his touch). Duckbox fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 03:48
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Chamale posted:No. Don't do this, it's dumb and bad.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:58
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JT Jag posted:He's just expressing his opinions through a political cartoon (edit). I don't see why people should have a problem with that. I do wonder though if Ramirez would ever blame a white victim for his own death.* * I don't actually wonder, I already know.
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i am harry posted:Why? The definition of a tyrant is an absolute ruler unconstrained by law who has usurped the legitimate sovereign authority to establish their own. That's pretty much word for word what happened with ISIS. They overthrew or conquered the local government and are running around with the closest thing to a set of laws being "obey us or die" and following through on the second half of that.
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snakeandbake posted:Can we please stick to posting retarded opinions in cartoon format please. GODDAMMIT WHY DOES MUIR WRITE "QUEDA"? WHY THE gently caress DOES HE WRITE "QUEDA"?
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