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The White Dragon posted:Limited to your party members, I'm afraid. But that's okay because Hugh is the best and will poo poo talk you no matter who you try to hook up with and criticize you for not being bro enough. I think WoT's the only game that has like 140 some endings though.
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Rascyc posted:Ya this, but I believe you can 'end' as a bro friend too much like WoT. And they're all wonderful. Then again I burnt out on it hard halfway through my run for the Familiar ending.
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Cake Attack posted:i think most people will say one of Oath in Felghana and Origins, depending on personal preference Couldn't that be because those are the ones most people have played?
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eh lots of people have played all of 1&2, Oath, Origins, Seven and Celceta since they're all easily available and i still tend to hear Oath and Origins from these types
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punk rebel ecks posted:Couldn't that be because those are the ones most people have played? I've played almost the entire series except Celceta and Oath is still the best of all of them. I'm legitimately surprised to hear people saying Oath is too hard while simultaneously talking up Origins. I found Origins to be massively more difficult on a blind first playthrough than Oath is(assuming you're not playing Hugo, who is a broken little nerd who breaks the game over his knee pretty much out of the gate).
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Jan 8, 2015 06:27
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Ugh, trying to dig up my PSP so I can play Tactics Ogre with CFCheats. I hate this game while also loving it. I'd rather just play it on the Vita but the post game is just too much to resume RIP
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Kanos posted:I've played almost the entire series except Celceta and Oath is still the best of all of them. Origin has Khlonsclard and is thus worse than Oath be default. Origin also has several puzzles that are really only solved by knowing how they worked in Ys I. The dungeon design is usually a little better than Oath's but too many of the bosses are just unfun slogs if you try to play on hard or nightmare.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:48
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Ys 3 best Ys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVbhCkNVv9Q&t=4376s (that's code for Oath is the best geez)
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I've found that Origins' bosses following That Stupid Desert Boss are mostly undertuned. I've only played on Normal and Hard, but after the desert stage it felt like bosses just didn't do enough damage to be really threatening, and I'm not the kind of player who grinds at all. The mantis boss is mildly difficult, and it's downhill from there. The desert boss is a goddamned nightmare, though. I don't like its design at all -- the self-healing mechanic simply compounds the impact of your character's level in a game where it already matters way too much.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:58
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What do you guys rate Trails in the Sky out of 10
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Jan 8, 2015 08:35
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a good jrpg/10
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WYA posted:What do you guys rate Trails in the Sky out of 10 everybody loves tits/10
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Jan 8, 2015 08:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ZlW6yp9CU / 10 no joke, the third Legend of Heroes series throws mechs at you at the very end of the first installment and it becomes a staple gameplay thing in the second installment
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Rascyc posted:no joke, the third Legend of Heroes series throws mechs at you at the very end of the first installment and it becomes a staple gameplay thing in the second installment So maybe I'm just a philistine or whatever but this doesn't look like terribly exciting gameplay to me.
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There's nothing really exciting about Sen no Kiseki's gameplay. It's pretty much just like Sora (Trails in the Sky) except status ailments are much more powerful and link attacks are a thing. When you roll out in mechs, it's pretty similar except you can target body parts and stuff. If you want actual eye candy stuff then probably want to watch a fight with link attacks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3WiO4NAQL8&t=57s But yeah it's a very straight forward system. They did most of the changes to the character customization aspect of the game, particularly overhauling orbments and stuff. Honestly I hope we get Ao no Kiseki looooooooooong before we get Sen no Kiseki but it's always nice to see mechs in an RPG IMO~
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Man that first video would probably have to be the most boring implementation of giant robots I have ever seen in a game. The second is more interesting, so I guess the first one is roughly a tutorial style fight?
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punk rebel ecks posted:Couldn't that be because those are the ones most people have played? Bumping games: Ys I&II, the original Ys IV's Hack & Slash: Ys V, VI, Oath in Felghana, Origin, and I guess the original Ys III Party games: Ys Seven and Memories in Celceta Ys III/V aren't good and VI is decidedly less refined in my opinion than Oath/Origin, so those are the two I'd pick for that group. Ys I&II are ancient 1980's action RPGs that have been ported a million times, and while I have a lot of nostalgia for them they do show their age. I will admit that I never played the original incarnations of Ys IV, so maybe those are amazing but at least between I&II and Oath/Origin it's just too hard to ignore the modern updates the latter provided. And finally, the party games, which have been an interesting experiment but also one I hope Falcom puts aside for a while because I don't think Falcom has quite perfected their balance yet. It's not even that you can abuse healing items, and thus never die in boss fights, it's that the boss patterns and such just seem sort of lackadaisical with huge arenas that make avoiding attacks a breeze. The crafting mechanics they implement kind of feel like bullshit JRPG busywork, which I'm not completely enamored with. So neither of those two would get the nod over Oath/Origin either for me. Truth to be told I like Ys III a decent amount even though it's a bad game. I rented it a ton of times for some reason and it just really grew on me. Helps that the soundtrack as usual is great.
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I just played through Ys III recently (the genesis version) and despite being janky and broken with a wildly uneven difficulty curve it's actually a lot of fun. Even if the side scrolling thing didn't suit the series it had some good points like the lack of back tracking and all of the items and equipment were basically easy to reach, so no weird hidden alcoves and such. That said I died probably 20 times getting overconfident just in the first dungeon to trash enemies until I gained a few levels because you take so much damage and leveling takes a while in the very beginning. Great music though. It's a shame there aren't more games like it, even by Falcom these days. Ys Seven was fun but a bit too drawn out. I really enjoyed the pace of the series since it's basically "okay I've got a little bit of story, let's kill a bunch of stuff". Older entries rarely overdid it with exposition and puzzles, even if a few had some really confusing dungeons in the late game. Snyderman fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Fantastic post Nate RFB.WYA posted:What do you guys rate Trails in the Sky out of 10 But if I had to rate the game as it stands, it would be 8/10.
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This is bugging me, but what's WoT? Wheel of Time?
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Based on context, probably Growlanser - Wayfarer of Time.
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RadicalR posted:This is bugging me, but what's WoT? Wheel of Time? Wayfarer of time
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Cake Attack posted:Wayfarer of time  I think I have that game somewhere. Is it actually good?Note: I can tolerate high amount of anime.
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RadicalR posted:This is bugging me, but what's WoT? Wheel of Time? Thank you for asking. I was going to, but I was too terrified that some company actually make a Wheel of Time JRPG.
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RadicalR posted:
Yeah its fun and has lots of content. The main plot ends up being somewhat less interesting than the politicking going on in the background, but oh well
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MockingQuantum posted:Thank you for asking. I was going to, but I was too terrified that some company actually make a Wheel of Time JRPG. Not a JRPG but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dzdZqSkiXQ
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Sakurazuka posted:Not a JRPG but: To be honest it's kind of immaterial to me whether they made one or not, I'm not a WoT fan. I just felt like a JRPG version of it would herald the coming of slow RPG heat-death.
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Nate RFB posted:I played most of the games starting with Ys I&II on the TG16 first, and I would also say that Oath/Origin are the best. Well actually my first Ys game ever was III on the SNES back in the 90s but let's set that aside for now. You more or less have three groups: None of the YS games have been as good for me as the original 3 were on the Turbo Grafx CD. But of course that's the nostalgia talking. When I found out about the YS 1&2 re-releases for Windows with updated graphics a while ago I was so excited. I went through the trouble of getting them and getting the translations. Then eventually Xseed released them on Steam, and that was awesome. But then I wasn't happy that the TG:CD soundtrack wasn't included, so I added that back in myself and played it for a while. But as much as I love Falcom and continue to support them I doubt anything they ever do will be half as good for me as playing YS with those amazing CD sountracks was back when I was 12.
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Speaking of Ys and TitS, there's an anime game sale on Steam this weekend. TitS and the four Steam Ys games are on sale, check it out.
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King of Solomon posted:Speaking of Ys and TitS, there's an anime game sale on Steam this weekend. TitS and the four Steam Ys games are on sale, check it out.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Already own them... and Hatoful Boyfriend... but do I want any of these other anime games? Any playable JRPGs? Not an RPG but the new Strider is really good. So is Legend of Korra which is...listed as anime for some reason.
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Sorry for interrupting but I have a bit of confession to make regarding this genre: I've pretty much neglected RPGs for almost all of years of gaming and I wanted to try to fix that this year after noticing the RPGs I've bought on sale over the last few years but never played. What I wanted to do was go thru all the mainline SP Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy games before the year was up. I've started (barely) on the first games in each franchise and plan to replace the DQ games with the Chrono series once it has been exhausted. My question is this a fools errand or is there something to gain from this project?
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I wouldn't wish the first three Final Fantasies on anyone but my most hated of enemies.
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Nate RFB posted:I wouldn't wish the first three Final Fantasies on anyone but my most hated of enemies. Really? I feel like the first is worth playing at the very least, and the other two aren't bad so much as outdated at this point. And at least they don't have the stupid loving 'active time battle system' that makes 4-9 so awful. God I hate that bullshit.
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Island Nation posted:Sorry for interrupting but I have a bit of confession to make regarding this genre: I actually set out on this road myself, though I've already played all of the FFs up to 12 (minus 11), so I'm only playing the DQ games for the first time. I would say it's not necessarily a fool's errand, it may at times be a tedious errand. There's definitely some gems in there, but what I would say is that if a game becomes tedious or annoying, don't be afraid to skip it. I'd say both series improved as they went on, though you could argue for or against the most recent entries in both series. I'd hate to see someone not ever play FF4 or 6 because they couldn't stomach FF2 or 3. The first three Final Fantasies are pretty painful nowadays, but they get better: -1 is charming but very simple -2 is a mess in terms of mechanics -3 is both kind of tedious and has some really unforgiving dungeons, depending on which version you'd play -4 is pretty great, but a touch dated, I think it has some very memorable moments and characters -5 is fun but the story doesn't really matter, it's got a pretty decent job system -6 is personally my favorite game ever, though some people don't find it to be very engaging or it loses them at the big halfway point -7 is 7, either you like it or you don't, but it definitely influenced everything that followed it -8 I personally don't care for, so ask somebody else -9 I think is one of the best incarnations of the series, it's fun, the story is decent, the characters are varied, and it probably has better pacing than most of its predecessors -10 seems to be pretty divisive, I loved it, but it's less of a "game" than some of the earlier Final Fantasies, in a weird way. -don't play 11. -12 is probably my second favorite, but the story doesn't really deliver, and the mechanics are complex and the gambit system takes some work to be fun. I hear a lot of improvements were made in the International version though. -Also it's a very different style of game, but I'd assert that you should include Final Fantasy Tactics in your list, probably somewhere around FF7 since they were released only a few months apart
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Zore posted:Really? I feel like the first is worth playing at the very least, and the other two aren't bad so much as outdated at this point. I think they're worth playing, but I absolutely would say 2&3 are not worth finishing.
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Island Nation posted:My question is this a fools errand or is there something to gain from this project? A buddy of mine has been trying this with FF, she's only ever played X and so she bought a bunch of the PS1 collections for her PS3 and has been streaming some of it. The other day she finally broke in the middle of FF2, even with me giving frequent hints to help her along and keep the game from being as brutal as it could be. She's skipped ahead to FF3 and my money is on her doing the same, even if much later in the game. I would absolutely say dip into each? But if you get to a place where you're going "THIS SUCKS" then just write that one off and try the next. They're all decidedly different and you're just not gonna like some of 'em.
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They weren't bad at the time but they're way past their sell by date at this point. The genre has moved on from those mechanics for good reason, and the limitations on the kind of storytelling you can do in an 8 bit game are really apparent if you compare them to any game made in the last 25 years rather than Balloon Fight or something. Even the remakes are pretty boring and that's with a total rewrite and a big coat of gloss applied. Like, the early Final Fantasy games were way ahead of their time in many ways, but it came at the cost of not really being able to execute against the vision that they had very well. FFIV is the first one that's still worth playing as a modern gamer, and then only if you have a strong stomach for 90s RPG mechanics. V through VII is kind of the sweet spot for the series, IMO.
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:A buddy of mine has been trying this with FF, she's only ever played X and so she bought a bunch of the PS1 collections for her PS3 and has been streaming some of it. The other day she finally broke in the middle of FF2, even with me giving frequent hints to help her along and keep the game from being as brutal as it could be. She's skipped ahead to FF3 and my money is on her doing the same, even if much later in the game. Agreed. The only ones I feel you absolutely need to give a fair shake to before passing over are 4-10, and even then 5 and 8 are sort of outliers depending on what you're looking for in an RPG. That's totally my own opinion though; I love 5 but can't recommend it to people without qualification.
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