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homerlaw posted:
Don't worry. It's not.
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homerlaw posted:
It basically makes everyone discard a card, and hurts opponents who've been sculpting their hand. It's not a Windfall, because a player can't net any cards with this (barring Madness or something like that).
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Jan 9, 2015 18:40
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homerlaw posted:
It's no wheel of fortune 
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Jan 9, 2015 18:41
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Wanna see a Cloudformnaught deck Break through the line. I think dragonrage is OK for some limited decks with a go wide strategy.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:41
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Rimusutera posted:
Eh. If you want rampant growth you're not hugely interested in making your lovely creatures slightly less lovely. Might be playable in standard anyway, but certainly isn't great.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:46
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Entropic posted:
If it was modal, and someone turned their enchantment into an artifact in response, then it would fizzle. This one doesn't.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:48
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I didn't even think of that. I wonder why they didn't just go with the modal templating, same as Crushing Vines?
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Playing Dark Deal early would certainly help out your Delve for the rest of the game.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:48
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I'm most disappointed that Valorous Stance didn't end up being part of a sweet cycle of modal tricks.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:49
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Devor posted:If it was modal, and someone turned their enchantment into an artifact in response, then it would fizzle. This one doesn't. Only if it was no longer an enchantment, right? How many cards do that?
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Jan 9, 2015 18:49
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odiv posted:Playing Dark Deal early would certainly help out your Delve for the rest of the game. Elf Turn 1, Dark Deal turn 2, Soulflayer turn 3?
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Jan 9, 2015 18:50
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Entropic posted:Only if it was no longer an enchantment, right? How many cards do that? Dunno. Also, if something copied the spell on the stack they couldn't change modes. They are pretty functionally different.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:55
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Balon posted:Elf Turn 1, Dark Deal turn 2, Soulflayer turn 3?  Looking forward to messing with people's "snap keep" hands though. 
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Jan 9, 2015 18:58
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Cynic Jester posted:
I feel like I've seen almost this exact same art, or at least the same pose and colors, on another card, but I can't put my finger on where.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:59
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It's the same card, but returned from the dead, Entropic.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:01
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vegetables posted:This is probably the first card since Future Sight that made me do a double take: Whoever edited this card should have ordered it "creature with flying, artifact or enchantment."
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Jan 9, 2015 19:04
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Break through the line seems good for jeskai tokens. Triggers prowess and ascendancy at 1R, then I can get my Rabblemaster or Seeker through bees, zombie tokens and any other poo poo for R? That's at least worth a few sideboard slots.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:17
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 Uhhhhhhh... Randomly enough, those creatures you already own that fit the criteria also untap and gain haste. Edit: Also, the best flavor text.  
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Jan 9, 2015 19:17
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Angry Grimace posted:Whoever edited this card should have ordered it "creature with flying, artifact or enchantment." Agreed, or they could have just made it modal. Choose one: -Destroy target creature with flying -Destroy target enchantment -Destroy target artifact The way it's written makes it very easy to misunderstand. It's an ambiguous sentence, even though only one interpretation really makes sense within the rules.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:18
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So much love for my common/uncommon cube this set! Thanks for the dragons!
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Jan 9, 2015 19:19
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AlternateNu posted:
It's basically a modal version of this:  Untapping your own creatures and giving them haste in addition to taking your opponent's creatures isn't a new thing.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:20
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Jonked posted:My understanding is that you are correct. The only sticking point i can think of is whether you'd need 5 blue pips before Thassa enters to attach it, or just 4.I think you'd only need 4? That hosed-up loophole only applies to replacement effects that change how creatures enter the battlefield, not to triggered abilities that go off when they do enter the battlefield. In your example, Thassa enters the battlefield as a noncreature enchantment, so she isn't tapped by Imposing Sovereign, but becomes a creature so fast once she's on the battlefield that she still triggers Temur Ascendancy. Also, there are some loving scary commons in this set, most of them in Red. Viva la Pauper!
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Jan 9, 2015 19:21
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Mercury Crusader posted:It's basically a modal version of this: Yeah, I know. I just didn't expect them to reprint an Insurrection style effect. I mean...that poo poo did come out in Onslaught.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:22
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Balon posted:Man, I'm going to jump through so many windows at the pre-release. What does this mean?
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Jan 9, 2015 19:22
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tirinal posted:
Because you know, hexproof evasive creatures with extra variance on top are Fun and lead to Fun Games of Magic.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:23
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It means he will be disappointed when Mardu Strike Leader isn't in his pool.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:23
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AlternateNu posted:Yeah, I know. I just didn't expect them to reprint an Insurrection style effect. I mean...that poo poo did come out in Onslaught. I remember arguments back when Insurrection was new about when it was legal to cast the card or what creatures you take. Namely, some folks were really adamant that you don't gain control of creatures that are untapped already, just the ones that were untapped by Insurrection's ability. Or better yet, some folks thought you couldn't cast the card if there were any untapped creatures. I figure the wording is better these days about it.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:25
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whateverfor posted:Because you know, hexproof evasive creatures with extra variance on top are Fun and lead to Fun Games of Magic. Bring some enchantment hate, nerd.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:25
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Balon posted:Man, I'm going to jump through so many windows at the pre-release. Its Innistrad all over again! This is all a plot by big window.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:27
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Xir posted:What does this mean?   
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Jan 9, 2015 19:29
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Where's my Mardu Kool Aid Man legend?
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Jan 9, 2015 19:30
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Angry Grimace posted:Whoever edited this card should have ordered it "creature with flying, artifact or enchantment." I cannot wait for someone to rule lawyer that their [word]form can't be targeted since it doesn't have flying.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:30
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drat. Did they specify in the art guidelines that the Mardu hated windows or something?
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Snacksmaniac posted:Where's my Mardu Kool Aid Man legend? Genghis Windowbreaker, Who Hates Walls
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Mercury Crusader posted:Genghis Windowbreaker, Who Hates Doors ftfy
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Mercury Crusader posted:Genghis Windowbreaker, Who Hates Walls Alesha, Who Doesn't Use Doors
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Zurgo Panesmasher
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I assume the pre-release is going to work the same as khans did? Pick a clan and then random assortment of foiled rares with the date on them?
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Bugsy posted:I assume the pre-release is going to work the same as khans did? Pick a clan and then random assortment of foiled rares with the date on them? There's another goofy mini-game you can play to get a special Ugin pack with alternate art cards.  (Note: the little minigame on the card is not actually necessary and they are generally supposed to give you the Ugin's Fate pack regardless of what you do.) Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Entropic posted:Good to know if you're at 8 or 9 mana in a Mardu deck with some outlast guys. I mean if you're casting this in limited you probably win anyway.
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