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ChickenSuit posted:That is an awful costume. The not-jacket jacket, the weird "Hey we got rid of the boob window so here's some strange underboob thing" thing, and nothing about it is iconic or special. It almost looks like a lesser Legion member who nobody's seen since the 80s outside of crowd shots.
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Original Psylocke's girly pink outfit. The armor was a better look. 
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Jan 9, 2015 01:25
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She's supposed to be British, right? And that Armor was good, in the whole "look at the alternative" kind of way. Didn't they kind of screw her out of using that armor though, with a clone, who killed herself. It's been like 20 years since this crap came out.
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Jan 9, 2015 03:58
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She's Captain Britain's sister, so about as British as it's possible to be.
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Jan 9, 2015 04:41
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Anora posted:So this is DC's answer to Ms. Marvel? If so, it's a terrible answer if they're sticking her on Teen Titans heyooooo but seriously what a horrible comic
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Jan 9, 2015 05:37
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Ashcans posted:Powergirls's costume is unfortunate because apart from the cupcake problem I think it actually has some good color choice and styling (mostly I think the half-cape and cuffed gloves are good/interesting and the contouring/quilting on the plain costume works pretty well to make a plain white outfit more interesting on the page). But those redos basically trade closing the boobhole for overall ugly designs. I don't know why they decided they needed to stick a P on her somewhere, she's never had one and trying to mash it into her chest/bib is just clumsy. I'm going to throw out a bit of an odd idea along these lines: Give her stripped down (no pun intended) costume that is sort of like a mix of Young Superman, Kon-El and TAS Supergirl. A sort of white t-shirt and blue sorta-denim shorts with some added little flair/design to it to give it a heroic sort of look. The idea of Power Girl as casually comfortable in an active athletic tomboy sort of way in her costume design could be interesting and a way to sort of differentiate her a bit more from someone like Wonder Woman who has shared a similar bare arms, bare legs design.
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Jan 9, 2015 06:13
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TwoPair posted:If so, it's a terrible answer if they're sticking her on Teen Titans heyooooo but seriously what a horrible comic Just going by the brief write up in that link, I'd suggest Kamala sounds a hell of a lot more interesting and relatable than a super-genius 17 year old scientist capable of devising transport between alternate realities for displaced superheroes who then gets superpowers on top.
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Jan 9, 2015 13:14
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Lurdiak posted:They don't, though. I have first hand evidence that teenagers have bought a comic book with power girl on the cover because of boobs.
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Jan 9, 2015 13:21
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I have first hand evidence that teenagers have bought a comic book with power girl on the cover because of boobs. What was your other hand doing?
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Jan 9, 2015 13:29
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Ghostlight posted:She's Captain Britain's sister, so about as British as it's possible to be. Although her Captain Britain costume is awful. 
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Jan 9, 2015 13:31
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All Captain Britain costumes are terrible, though.
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Jan 9, 2015 15:11
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DigitalRaven posted:All Captain Britain costumes are terrible, though. Lionheart was alright, shame about the comics she starred in 
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Jan 9, 2015 15:32
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DigitalRaven posted:All Captain Britain costumes are terrible, though. Kinda..? Original had that weird hair hole:  Those boots and all that white:  Slightly better version:  Meh. Union Jack does this type of look way better:  The most  patriotic costume has to be this though:
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Jan 9, 2015 15:37
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Jan 9, 2015 15:44
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I really liked his MI13 costume, actually.
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Jan 9, 2015 16:00
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fatherboxx posted:Lionheart was alright, shame about the comics she starred in Trying to cram the Union Flag onto her mask makes it into a hot mess in most panels. The lion (shared with the originally Captain Britain costume) is again finicky and over-detailed. The twirls on the end of the staff bring to mind the EDL logo. The rest are pretty bland designs. The least-worst is the MI-13 costume, just because it doesn't lean so hard on the white, but they're all so based on jingoistic bullshit that they might as well be called Captain UKIP (or Captain Britain First in the case of Jack Staff).
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Jan 9, 2015 16:00
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I bet drawing that lion every time at different poses and angles sucked rear end.
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Jan 9, 2015 16:10
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The problem is really that there is no good iconography for Britain that translates easily into a costume. The Union Jack is a very messy flag, and it's difficult to simplify in any way without it becoming unrecognizable. If you extract the colors you just have red, white, and blue, and it's going to be hard to not just be designing an off-brand Captain America (although this might be said to be an overall problem with the character in general). If you decided to say gently caress it and just make a Captain England it would have two problems; first, that it would look an awful lot like Captain Red Cross, and also that St. George's cross is really only used by football fans and weirdo nationalists, so it's not exactly taking you in the right direction. Britain doesn't have great, clear symbols, its all poo poo like lions and unicorns and intertwined roses or bulldogs and fat men in waistcoats. The Jack Flag and Union Jack pictures above really have the best shot at it, I think, in terms of something you want to be redrawn tons of times on the page.
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Jan 9, 2015 17:34
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fatherboxx posted:Lionheart was alright, shame about the comics she starred in The decidedly french fleur de lis as her staff is an odd choice. Unless in her reality the Queen/King still has claims for the French throne.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:06
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Vincent posted:The decidedly french fleur de lis as her staff is an odd choice. Unless in her reality the Queen/King still has claims for the French throne. Yeah it does look like it was based on the old coat of arms 
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Jan 9, 2015 18:25
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Ashcans posted:The problem is really that there is no good iconography for Britain that translates easily into a costume. The Union Jack is a very messy flag, and it's difficult to simplify in any way without it becoming unrecognizable. If you extract the colors you just have red, white, and blue, and it's going to be hard to not just be designing an off-brand Captain America (although this might be said to be an overall problem with the character in general). The problem with British nationalism and flag waving is it always comes back to our giant terrible racist empire. There are bits of British culture and history to be proud of, but they aren't associated with the Union Jack nearly as strongly as the British Empire is. Like when I look at this guy: I think "probably something the EDL would make", not "proud and noble Briton  ".
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Jan 9, 2015 19:36
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Maybe Captain Britain's symbol should be a cup of tea or a plate of fish & chips. Or somehow be able to represent a cloudy day as a single picture. Perhaps a gray square on a slightly darker gray background.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:49
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You just need to invoke the right cultural memory. Instead of the Union Jack or the coat of arms, the chest symbol should be a Spitfire blowing away a Messerschmidt over the skies of London.
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Jan 9, 2015 20:00
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Clearly they just need to ackowledge all of Britain's history and turn him into the Blue Raja.
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Jan 9, 2015 20:03
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I liked the Captain From Everywhere Corps from the Ultimates 2. Here's your supersuit done up like your country's flag. Oh sorry Captain France that was Captain Netherland's costume we were holding it sideways.
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McSpanky posted:You just need to invoke the right cultural memory. Instead of the Union Jack or the coat of arms, the chest symbol should be a Spitfire blowing away a Messerschmidt over the skies of London. Now I think about it, the RAF roundel is a much better symbol for a hypothetical Captain Britain. The other issue, of course, is "national" heroes in the first place. America's got what, Cap and USAgent? Captain Britain, Jack Staff, Spitfire, Union Jack, Excalibur... it's almost like heroes can't have a non-national identity until they operate in the US. I know that's down to the US being the major market, but still.
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Captain Britain should be British Racing Green with white accents. EDIT: Or there's always Maximan's uniform... 
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Jan 9, 2015 21:16
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Captain Britain should be British Racing Green with white accents.  ?
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Vincent posted:The decidedly french fleur de lis as her staff is an odd choice. Unless in her reality the Queen/King still has claims for the French throne. It looks like it should be used to hang curtains instead of beat asses.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I have first hand evidence that teenagers have bought a comic book with power girl on the cover because of boobs. I just mean that tons of comics do the T&A thing and they all sell like poo poo, just like 95% of all comics nowadays. Trying something new for a new audience should be something editorial is desperate for instead of terrified of. Hulk Smash! posted:The most I dunno, I think the off-center design is at least more inspired than this guy: 
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Jan 9, 2015 22:57
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All British superheroes should look like Winston Churchill, problem solved.
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Zombie Samurai posted:All British superheroes should look like Winston Churchill, problem solved. 
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Morrison's Batman Incorporated has a lot of British stuff in it (along with other international characters), including one minor character inspired by Margaret Thatcher ----- 
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I think my favourite UK costume is the Captain Britain Spider-Man although that's probably more down to the Spider-Man elements rather than the Captain Britain ones.
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Starsnostars posted:I think my favourite UK costume is the Captain Britain Spider-Man although that's probably more down to the Spider-Man elements rather than the Captain Britain ones. It'd still work if you got rid of the web.
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Jan 10, 2015 02:34
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Next Captain Britain should just wear a Man U jersey and everyone will get it.
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McSpanky posted:You just need to invoke the right cultural memory. Instead of the Union Jack or the coat of arms, the chest symbol should be a Spitfire blowing away a Messerschmidt over the skies of London. Stiff Upper Lip? Tally-ho? Old Bean?
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Superstring posted:Wasn't this a Claremont thing? Endless Mike posted:I think it was a Jim Lee idea, actually, since he wanted to draw sexy Asian ninjas. Given Claremont's fetishization of ninjas, I'm betting it was more of a collaborative effort.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Next Captain Britain should just wear a Man U jersey and everyone will get it. 
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