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Cingulate posted:kriminelle dänen raus Ick bin Klinke. Ick öffne dit Grenze.
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Smirr posted:'Er soll sich in sein stinkisches "Land" verpissen.' Uhh, I believe the correct term is 'Ländle'. Goddamn. I wonder how long it takes for people in Brandenburg to demand the deportation of these Aryan lowlifes. Also, to answer your question, northern Schleswig-Holstein isn't like that - it's a dreadfully boring place (which I actually assume Brandenburg was as well before those Danes showed up). Edit: gently caress me, I'm late.
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http://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Der-Norden/Uebersicht/Verdaechtiger-stirbt-nach-Sturz-aus-7.-Stockquote:„Warum konnte mein Neffe das Fenster öffnen?“, fragte der Onkel. „Warum trug er keine Handschellen? Warum war er nicht in einem Raum eingesperrt?“ One of the few times where people complain about someone not being handcuffed.
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Criminal Danes is a stereotype that has been by the (state!) media for far too long!
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frankenfreak posted:Criminal Danes is a stereotype that has been by the (state!) media for far too long! Nordländisches Lumpenpack.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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elwood posted:http://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Der-Norden/Uebersicht/Verdaechtiger-stirbt-nach-Sturz-aus-7.-Stock Quick! To the Hagida-mobile! *spinning crescent*
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Mightypeon posted:Now, from a pretty far left pov, I prefer "honest conservative assholes" (AFD, largely meaning honesty over the fact they are assholes) over "dishonest conservative assholes that pretend to have human feelings like compassion or stuff" (CDU/CSU).
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Also PEGIDA related, your local radio stations might have mentioned the non-representative survey to showcase how many of PEGIDA participants are scared of Islamic terrorism et al. The part they probably didn't mention is that of the group surveyed a lot of them are actually not the poor lower-class Ossi saps, at least the WDR likes to imply they are.
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Jan 15, 2015 19:05
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Randler posted:Also PEGIDA related, your local radio stations might have mentioned the non-representative survey to showcase how many of PEGIDA participants are scared of Islamic terrorism et al. The part they probably didn't mention is that of the group surveyed a lot of them are actually not the poor lower-class Ossi saps, at least the WDR likes to imply they are. You mean the study where 65 % of surveyed people refused to respond?
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elwood posted:You mean the study where 65 % of surveyed people refused to respond? If it's good enough for the WDR and other media to use for their reporting regarding motivation, it should be fair game for social backgrounds as well.
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Jan 15, 2015 21:09
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Randler posted:Also PEGIDA related, your local radio stations might have mentioned the non-representative survey to showcase how many of PEGIDA participants are scared of Islamic terrorism et al. The part they probably didn't mention is that of the group surveyed a lot of them are actually not the poor lower-class Ossi saps, at least the WDR likes to imply they are. quote:Die befragten Teilnehmer der Demonstrationen gegen die „Islamisierung des Abendlandes“ sind nur zu knapp einem Viertel durch „Islam, Islamismus oder Islamisierung“ motiviert. Good thing you got that name then I guess.
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Jan 15, 2015 21:15
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Badly Jester posted:Goddamn. I wonder how long it takes for people in Brandenburg to demand the deportation of these Aryan lowlifes. Patriotische Brandenburger gegen die Skandinavisierung des Vaterlandes (Pbgdsdv)
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Jan 15, 2015 23:35
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Cingulate posted:It seems not only is the media misrepresenting the Patriotischen Europäer gegen die Islamisierung Des Abendlandes, so is PEGIDA itself: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
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Jan 16, 2015 09:11
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Not like you can tell much from that study. Niggemeier made a nice graphic. 
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Eezee posted:Not like you can tell much from that study. Niggemeier made a nice graphic. Still funny that among the people who bothered to respond, "dissatisfied with politics" and "gently caress the press" top the list and not, you know, that muslamic invasion thing that PEGIDA is about. Oh the German Wutbürger 
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Jan 16, 2015 11:29
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Eezee posted:Not like you can tell much from that study. Niggemeier made a nice graphic. blowfish posted:Still funny that among the people who bothered to respond, "dissatisfied with politics" and "gently caress the press" top the list and not, you know, that muslamic invasion thing that PEGIDA is about. I mean, there's a reason that silly programme of theirs contains a bunch of disingenuous humanist lines. It's because these people know saying "I hate foreigners" is bad because it means you're a Nazi, and Nazis are the bad guys in movies right? So if you ask them "are you here because you do not appreciate foreigners?", they'll say no, because they're not the bad guys, right? Surely I'M not a Nazi, I'm just a German citizen who tries to defend the values of the West.
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Jan 16, 2015 11:34
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How many of the Pegida-people use the "Islam is not a race" cop-out to justify that they are totally not racist, I wonder?
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Grendels Dad posted:How many of the Pegida-people use the "Islam is not a race" cop-out to justify that they are totally not racist, I wonder? poo poo like that makes me wonder why the term racism hasn't long since been abandoned in favor of something like ethnocentrism. I mean, people are right when they say that Islam isn't a race,; that just doesn't make their views any less discriminatory.
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Jan 16, 2015 12:41
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Grendels Dad posted:How many of the Pegida-people use the "Islam is not a race" cop-out to justify that they are totally not racist, I wonder?
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Cingulate posted:That's the very idea behind the very name of the stupid thing. It's not Patriotische Europäer gegen zu viele Ausländer for that very reason. Oh, right. Ugh. Badly Jester posted:poo poo like that makes me wonder why the term racism hasn't long since been abandoned in favor of something like ethnocentrism. I mean, people are right when they say that Islam isn't a race,; that just doesn't make their views any less discriminatory. They may be right when pointing that out, but they are still hella racist if they use "Muslim" and "Zuwanderer" interchangeably.
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Jan 16, 2015 12:48
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Grendels Dad posted:They may be right when pointing that out, but they are still hella racist if they use "Muslim" and "Zuwanderer" interchangeably.
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Jan 16, 2015 12:56
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Cingulate posted:In the Charlie Hebdo threat, I was arguing with a Fin who claimed the difference between immigrants and asylum seekers was "semantics". Wow. That's stunningly ignorant.
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Jan 16, 2015 13:00
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Grendels Dad posted:Oh, right. Ugh. My point is that it's not necessarily racist, but xenophobic and ethnocentric. You can be a shithead looking down on a perceived "out group" without buying into the concept of race. Cingulate posted:In the Charlie Hebdo threat, I was arguing with a Fin who claimed the difference between immigrants and asylum seekers was "semantics". I hate it when people say something is "just semantics" to brush off an argument. Mostly because they apparently have no loving clue what semantics is. The difference between mountain and molehill is just semantics, really.
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Cingulate posted:In the Charlie Hebdo threat, I was arguing with a Fin who claimed the difference between immigrants and asylum seekers was "semantics". I think what he was actually trying to say in a sort of Finnish way is that when a lot of people say 'immigrants' they are including asylum seekers in their definition, especially people who complain about migration.
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Jan 16, 2015 13:47
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Disinterested posted:I think what he was actually trying to say in a sort of Finnish way is that when a lot of people say 'immigrants' they are including asylum seekers in their definition, especially people who complain about migration. (He still would've been empirically wrong either way though, at least what Germany is concerned.)
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Cingulate posted:If that is so, it went totally over my head. Though I must say I do not even try to be patient with racists. Given Finland has so few migrants of any kind, it wouldn't be surprising if they're lumped together. They definitely are lumped together by your average English working man in the street in casual conversation. In fact, sometimes bigoted far right people in the UK are sometimes more likely to dislike the asylum seekers, since they're more likely to be non-White non-Christians and on benefits, obviously. As opposed to those hard working Polish plumbers who are stealing our jerbs but at least they're working hard and white and all that and doing all our dirty work that we can't be bothered with.
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Lumping Polish and Muslim immigrants together would be quite foolish. One group has a statistically significant affinity for organized crime, domestic violence and a history of religious extremism and bloody consists while the other one does not east pork.
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Jan 16, 2015 14:23
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It's nice to see that the left is still worse than any *GIDA group will probably ever be. While *GIDA is lovely when it comes to content, they atleast behave realtivly peaceful, while the left always seems to have a tendency to destroy stuff (http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/leipzig-randale-von-linksautonomen-polizei-ermittelt-a-1013282.html). For those that dont want to read the German article on SPON: Last night about 600 leftist went through Leipzig, smashing windows, burning down cars, throwing stones at police. But let's talk about some stupid people chanting stupid stuff instead of violent leftists attacking the police.
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GaussianCopula posted:It's nice to see that the left is still worse than any *GIDA group will probably ever be.
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GaussianCopula posted:It's nice to see that the left is still worse than any *GIDA group will probably ever be. Please remember that the extreme left only destroys property, while the extreme right kills people. And oh, the buddies of the NSU are marching with PEGIDA.
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Didn't know you get away scot free now if you can demonstrate there's someone worse. "Okay, officer, maybe I did do 150 inside city limits when I went by that preschool. But then again: Hitler."
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Torrannor posted:Please remember that the extreme left only destroys property, while the extreme right kills people. Red Army Faction did kill a few people. My Lovely Horse posted:Didn't know you get away scot free now if you can demonstrate there's someone worse. If you don't do anything against the law you can get away scot free. As stupid as *GIDA's are they are not doing something that's against the law, while the left did in this case.
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GaussianCopula posted:Red Army Faction did kill a few people. You and Riso should get together, you'd probably be a huge hit at parties.
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GaussianCopula posted:Red Army Faction did kill a few people.
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quote:As stupid as *GIDA's are they are not doing something that's against the law, while the left did in this case. Meanwhile in Dresden, an asylum seeker is stabbed to death in the street, forensics arrive at the scene some 30 hours later. Police declare a man lying dead in a literal pool of blood could have had entirely innocent reasons and only the autopsy revealed the stab wounds, thereby showing considerable restraint in jumping to any conclusions. http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/ermittlungen-zum-tod-von-fluechtling-dresdner-polizei-raeumt-fehler-ein-1.2305820 http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/getoeteter-asylbewerber-khaled-i-kritik-an-dresdner-polizei-waechst-1.2306912 (Where do we place killing on our chant-riot scale?)
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My Lovely Horse posted:No poo poo they aren't, doesn't make it irrelevant or any less reprehensible or any more appropriate to try and relativize their bullshit by pointing out the evil leftist rioters (who genuinely are irresponsible assholes, if that's what you want to hear someone say). Forensics only went over the crime scene 30 hours after the body was discovered 
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Cingulate posted:I can think of a few more people on the right who killed people, including some rather prominent Germans. National Socialists 
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My Lovely Horse posted:No poo poo they aren't, doesn't make it irrelevant or any less reprehensible or any more appropriate to try and relativize their bullshit by pointing out the evil leftist rioters (who genuinely are irresponsible assholes, if that's what you want to hear someone say). There is no proof that he was killed because of racist motives.
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Torrannor posted:Please remember that the extreme left only destroys property, while the extreme right kills people. And oh, the buddies of the NSU are marching with PEGIDA. Pretty sure your kind is even lower on the prison totem pole, Chester.
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