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Odonata
Nov 5, 2009
Nap Ghost

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

She only had 1/5th of her soul removed, which is why she only has reasonable-size boobs a soul dagger.

e: beaten while wiki'ing the correct amount

Look, either:
A) Pixie was corrupted by having part of her soul removed, transforming the naive waif of a girl into a porn star.
-or-
B) Marvel comics keeps as one of their main artists a man who sucks so much at his job that he can't manage to keep a female character on model because she was only 14 years old and there's no porn available to trace of girls that age, forcing Pixie to be aged 5 years overnight with no in-universe explanation.

I find demonic corruption to be the more likely answer.

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Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Odonata posted:

Look, either:
A) Pixie was corrupted by having part of her soul removed, transforming the naive waif of a girl into a porn star.
-or-
B) Marvel comics keeps as one of their main artists a man who sucks so much at his job that he can't manage to keep a female character on model because she was only 14 years old and there's no porn available to trace of girls that age, forcing Pixie to be aged 5 years overnight with no in-universe explanation.

I find demonic corruption to be the more likely answer.

Greg Land is demonically corrupted?

Sounds good to me.

:... argh, where's that "we won't need eyes to see" Event Horizon emoticon when I need it...

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Not only does Land trace porn, but he also traces his own work.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Say Nothing posted:

Not only does Land trace porn, but he also traces his own work.



It's like watching someone descend into madness- a trace, of a trace, of a trace. That arm, by the end of it...

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Discendo Vox posted:

It's like watching someone descend into madness- a trace, of a trace, of a trace. That arm, by the end of it...

Between the arm, back and waist exaggerating with each trace, it'll be a Cronenbergian body horror model within a few more iterations. It's perversely fascinating.

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003

At some point, when you are trying to achieve that much efficiency with so little artistic merit, why are you even a comic book artist anymore?

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Because Marvel will continually pay him and he likes drawing sexy ladies.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
Post-Land Pixie is sort of a happy(?) medium between New X-Men Pixie and Inexplicably Sexy Pixie

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Also it's not like Land was an artist dedicated to his craft who was driven to producing porn-traces through stress and deadlines, that's just how he works and he doesn't see anything wrong with it. As long as Marvel is prepared to keep passing him work, why wouldn't he take stacks of cash to flip through his archive of nudes?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Chinaman7000 posted:

At some point, when you are trying to achieve that much efficiency with so little artistic merit, why are you even a comic book artist anymore?

Apparently he never misses a deadline.

What I hate most about him is that the facial expressions never make sense within the context of what's happening. All these huge fake model smiles, and yes I know that's because that's what he's tracing, but it's just soooo loving dumb.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Waterhaul posted:

Because Marvel will continually pay him and he likes drawing sexy ladies.

Basically he gets paid for looking at porn.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

zoux posted:

Apparently he never misses a deadline.
Yeah outside of hyperbole it's this I imagine.

CineD had/has a thread about insider politics, editing, deadlines, just general funny stories and poo poo about the inner workings of movies. I'd be interested to see a similar thread on comics because even small little posts like the Sonic one about Ken Penders are entertaining as hell. I can only imagine the clusterfucks that DC and Marvel have gotten up to.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Ashcans posted:

Also it's not like Land was an artist dedicated to his craft who was driven to producing porn-traces through stress and deadlines, that's just how he works and he doesn't see anything wrong with it. As long as Marvel is prepared to keep passing him work, why wouldn't he take stacks of cash to flip through his archive of nudes?

No, he used to actually draw poo poo. When I went back and read Birds of Prey, I was amazed that it was Greg Land drawing the series. I think his tracing and recycling began there, as I remember that his later issues started to recycle poses or something. It's been a while since I read the series.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Alhazred posted:

Basically he gets paid for looking at porn.

Pretty much. There was an interview recently where he was talking about doing Spider-Woman and he was talking about his current Marvel books saying he had lobbied for Marvel to let him do the recent all female X-book cos that's what he really likes drawing but they said no, then the editor of Spider-Woman approached him to do Spider-Woman cos it was "his kind of book", this was also the same editor that thought that Manara cover was a good idea. Comics!

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Pierson posted:

CineD had/has a thread about insider politics, editing, deadlines, just general funny stories and poo poo about the inner workings of movies. I'd be interested to see a similar thread on comics because even small little posts like the Sonic one about Ken Penders are entertaining as hell. I can only imagine the clusterfucks that DC and Marvel have gotten up to.

Unfortunately the comics industry is too small and incestuous. Everyone's really afraid of talking poo poo about anyone else for fear of getting blackballed from one or both of the Big Two, or even just blackballed from some of the bigger alternatives like Image. There's not that much money in comics, it's suicide to remove one of the like 5 places you can work at just to gossip.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lurdiak posted:

Unfortunately the comics industry is too small and incestuous. Everyone's really afraid of talking poo poo about anyone else for fear of getting blackballed from one or both of the Big Two, or even just blackballed from some of the bigger alternatives like Image. There's not that much money in comics, it's suicide to remove one of the like 5 places you can work at just to gossip.

Thats what American Hero Brandon Graham did and he's doing ok. Not really cape stuff though.

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

Lurdiak posted:

Unfortunately the comics industry is too small and incestuous. Everyone's really afraid of talking poo poo about anyone else for fear of getting blackballed from one or both of the Big Two, or even just blackballed from some of the bigger alternatives like Image. There's not that much money in comics, it's suicide to remove one of the like 5 places you can work at just to gossip.

And it being that small and incestuous it's probably even worse then hollywood as far as "buddies first" mantra. Basically find a modern pro-wrestling expose and exchange a few words.

Wendell
May 11, 2003

zoux posted:

In honor of Emma Frost and low budget bondage porn, post the most ridiculous cheesecake costumes you can think of.

I'll lead off with Lady Mastermind


I think Bachalo is behind a lot of the modern worst offenders. I said I like Magik's costume but I kinda wish the leggings were connected to the absurdly short hot pants she's wearing.

Because Mr. Sinister was known to dress like a stripper they simply couldn't help having Miss Sinister dress similarly

NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

Wendell posted:

Because Mr. Sinister was known to dress like a stripper they simply couldn't help having Miss Sinister dress similarly
This makes even less sense considering how completely and totally insane Sinister is normally. You know that he would have made sure to program his clone to dress exactly like he does; he picked that purple metal shred cape giant boot flare look and it is just as perfect as everything else about him!

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.
Mr. Sinister doesn't dress like a stripper, he's nude all the time and you'll never get tips with the entire package on display from the get go.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Lurdiak posted:

I feel like given enough time and enough artist changes, every single female character design will turn into a huge chested model. Pepper Potts used to be a frumpy short lady and now she just looks like she walked off the set of Sex and the City. Hell, I'm sure someone once drew aunt May as a sexy vixen but with grey hair.

Not exactly grey haired, but there's Trouble by Mark Millar that depicted aunt May as sexy:

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Alhazred posted:

Not exactly grey haired, but there's Trouble by Mark Millar that depicted aunt May as sexy:


Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Not exactly cheesecake or anything, but Aunt May is kind of a silver fox in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



That's not Aunt May, that's just someone called May :colbert:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Alhazred posted:

Not exactly grey haired, but there's Trouble by Mark Millar that depicted aunt May as sexy:


Is she...is she peddling drugs?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Discendo Vox posted:

Is she...is she peddling drugs?
:allears:

Unknownone
Apr 23, 2003

Some stupid 04 bought me this

Waterhaul posted:

That's not Aunt May, that's just someone called May :colbert:

Plus red hair, and her signature line, obviously MJ. Not May. MARY. I hope.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

Discendo Vox posted:

Is she...is she peddling drugs?

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Discendo Vox posted:

Is she...is she peddling drugs?

No, Splenda. Aunt May loves all the varieties of calorie-free sweetners.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

aunt may? aunt would

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
If that's supposed to be a condom, then she should throw it out and get a new one- the seal's clearly broken, you can't see the circular shape of the condom inside the wrapping.

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

Alhazred posted:

Did they age up Oya also? Because :stare:


She was stated by Storm to be 12 years old when she first appeared. Gillen said that was a misprint and it was supposed to be 14, and she was drawn to look like a pre-teen. She's around 16-17 in Generation Hope.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Discendo Vox posted:

If that's supposed to be a condom, then she should throw it out and get a new one- the seal's clearly broken, you can't see the circular shape of the condom inside the wrapping.

I believe that's a plot point. And that's the secret origin of Peter Parker. :barf:

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Yvonmukluk posted:

I believe that's a plot point. And that's the secret origin of Peter Parker. :barf:

Wait, they retconned Aunt May into being Peter's secret mom??

gently caress, One More Day ain't got poo poo on this.

MH Knights
Aug 4, 2007

Ensign_Ricky posted:

Wait, they retconned Aunt May into being Peter's secret mom??

gently caress, One More Day ain't got poo poo on this.

At least Pete didn't travel back in time and end up being his own grandpa.

Ah, Mark :magical: MIllar.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Ensign_Ricky posted:

Wait, they retconned Aunt May into being Peter's secret mom??

gently caress, One More Day ain't got poo poo on this.

They didn't. They had a terrible Mark Millar comic which was to be aimed at romance comic readers and was to be a nod to Spider-Man but it was so poorly done and received it was banished to the terrible comic zone and specifically said to not be in continuity or starring Spider-Man characters, just characters with similar names.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Waterhaul posted:

They didn't. They had a terrible Mark Millar comic which was to be aimed at romance comic readers and was to be a nod to Spider-Man but it was so poorly done and received it was banished to the terrible comic zone and specifically said to not be in continuity or starring Spider-Man characters, just characters with similar names.

Ah, well, thank gently caress for that.

Or Mephisto. Might have to thank him instead...

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I still blame whoever thought Mark Millar could write romance.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Lurdiak posted:

I still blame whoever thought Mark Millar could write romance.

And why would Millar have Aunt May spouting MJ's catchphrase??

Or...oh dear god...d-did May teach her that??:barf:

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Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I'd love to see another big two comic try and attract readers with barely related coquettish jailbait bikini girl covers today. That'd be fun.


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