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Shbobdb: Dec 16, 2010; by Reene

Those places have a more . . . unified culture. America is a very large, diverse country so plans like that won't work here. Some people are just lazy good-for-nothings, and the state needs to recognize that and incentivize them as opposed to coddling them with free hand outs.

# ? Jan 17, 2015 18:20

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 08:31

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FuzzySkinner posted:

My dad put it on Fox News, and my head is currently hurting.

"YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE STUCK PAYING THE BILLS FOR IT? THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER!".

"SORRY NOTHING IS FOR FREE"

"IF WE GIVE PEOPLE FREE COLLEGE EDUCATION, THEY WON'T WORK AS HARD FOR IT"

I hope whoever would say something like this had or would force their children to pay for their college education themselves and not help at all.

# ? Jan 17, 2015 18:26

FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

Here's the typical Fox News argument against it and some of the talking points I heard.

quote:

As the president noted in his speech, his proposal -- �America�s College Promise� -- is based on Gov. Bill Haslam's Tennessee Promise program, which offers free tuition to students attending two years of community or technical college. While the president�s plan will certainly make community college accessible to many more students, it is also far from clear that such students will benefit.

Bill Haslam IS A REPUBLICAN by the way.

quote:

Consider that, at present, graduation rates for students at community colleges are dismal: around 25 percent for students who do not transfer, the lowest 6-year completion rate in U.S. higher-education. (For the roughly one-fifth of community college enrollees who do eventually transfer to a four year college, the graduation rate, at 62 percent, is far better.)[quote]

[quote]Despite the president�s best intentions -- absent serious reform -- pressuring community colleges to improve outcomes, graduation rates have no reason to rise. And by directing more students to community colleges without demanding higher standards�students will become eligible for two free years of tuition if they maintain merely a 2.5 GPA, hardly stellar in this age of rampant grade inflation�the president's plan might, perversely, worsen graduation rates.

A better idea: rather than force schools to follow top-down commands, reward successful schools instead by making eligibility for federal funding contingent on satisfactory completion and employment outcomes. (Alternatively, steer students receiving funding to two-year technical schools, which boast better graduation rates than general-education community colleges.)

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/01/09/obama-free-community-college-plan-why-it-could-hurt-more-than-help/

This all sounds eerily like "No Child Left Behind" btw.

FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jan 17, 2015

# ? Jan 17, 2015 18:36

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

It's kind of fun to see Arizona politicians complaining about the free community college thing when it's specifically mentioned in our constitution:

Section 6. The university and all other state educational institutions shall be open to students of both sexes, and the instruction furnished shall be as nearly free as possible. The legislature shall provide for a system of common schools by which a free school shall be established and maintained in every school district for at least six months in each year, which school shall be open to all pupils between the ages of six and twenty-one years.

# ? Jan 17, 2015 19:04

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

It's kind of fun to see Arizona politicians complaining about the free community college thing when it's specifically mentioned in our constitution:

Section 6. The university and all other state educational institutions shall be open to students of both sexes, and the instruction furnished shall be as nearly free as possible. The legislature shall provide for a system of common schools by which a free school shall be established and maintained in every school district for at least six months in each year, which school shall be open to all pupils between the ages of six and twenty-one years.

There are lawsuits about the "as nearly free as possible" clause once in a while. I don't think they go anywhere, sadly.

# ? Jan 17, 2015 19:52

Tender Bender: Sep 17, 2004

The community college graduation rate is really low, therefore we shouldn't do anything to help community college students. However, reform is needed; I propose vague goals with no clear plan as to how to achieve them. But it definitely shouldn't cost any money.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 00:48

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

You would think that if there's one demographic that makes no sense to attack for being "lazy" it would be college students. What do these morons think people go to college for in the first place?

# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:02

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

Hipsters: Scourge of Republicans

quote:

The Trouble With Hipsters by Steven Crowder

Hipsters. We all know one. They�re those fun, little, arrogant people who let the ideal of �anti-consumerism,� combined with a hatred for all things normal, dictate their every action. Whether it�s spending more time and money at thrift shops for threads (anti-consumerist threads, mind you), or combing the record store for the most unknown/least coherent band they can find, there�s one thing that hipsters constantly want you to know: that they are better than you. That, and also, those frames that you�re wearing are so mainstream.

Of course, it goes without saying that a leftist world view is a staple in the hipster�s theological wardrobe. For years, young adults have adopted extremely liberal world views in their attempts to be different, ultimately failing to see the irony that they�ve all become the same.

As one of the younger whippersnappers myself, I can tell you that today, oftentimes this is bred through years of college and faux-alternative entertainment. The message bombarding young adults from the leftist cultural elite is clear; you should think for yourself� by adopting my beliefs as your own.

If not for this subliminal indoctrination, people like Noam Chomsky would have few readers, and terrorists would have no young American sympathizers to call their own. You see the hipster, often blessed with the luxury of never having had to earn a living in the real world (no, college is not the real world) is permanently perched in the peanut gallery, free to criticize other more productive Americans.

�I�ll never be a corporate suit or sell-out!��America is an Evil Empire that rapes the earth of its resources, and robs from impoverished countries!��Islamic terrorists wouldn�t want to kill us if we just left them alone and stopped being so arrogant�.We don�t own the world!�

These are all common beliefs of hipsters that can be overheard on a Sunday stroll through NYC�s East Village. � Just be sure to avoid the tainted syringes. � If you were to ask the modern hipster, he� I mean she� Sorry, IT is likely under the impression that Usama Bin Laden is wearing skinny jeans in his cave, currently listening to Animal Collective as he throws back cans of Pabst Blue Ribbon. Certainly Al Qaeda shares a common bond with the trust-fund jackass, bobbing his head at the Vampire Weekend concert.

Listen, if it were just the about obnoxious music, silly clothes and filthy subculture that is modern hipsterism, one could simply laugh it off as another generation of stupid kids. The problem, however, is indicative of a mindset that has plagued young people for quite some time.

All kids want to feel like they�re a part of something. Modern, crooked leftists are willing to provide them with that, all the while cloaking it in a cleverly marketed veil of �anti-consumerism.�

It seems to me that at one point in our country�s history, young people adopted fashion styles that would come back to haunt them decades later.

Today, young people are increasingly adopting fashionable philosophies that could hurt the world for decades to come.

Also, they should shower more.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:11

Good Citizen: Aug 12, 2008; trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Hipsters: Scourge of Republicans

I'm constantly amazed that a self-proclaimed comedian can't ever seem to make a funny joke when picking on the easiest targets on the planet.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:14

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Hide your wife.

Steven Crowder is the last person who should be talking about Hipsters and 'trust-fund jackasses'.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:15

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

"Trust fund jackass"? Crowder doesn't like the idea of people getting supported by rich mommies and daddies? Does that mean he supports the estate tax?

# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:23

Gloryhold It!: Sep 22, 2008; Fucking
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Mr Interweb posted:

You would think that if there's one demographic that makes no sense to attack for being "lazy" it would be college students. What do these morons think people go to college for in the first place?

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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:24

esto es malo: Aug 3, 2006; Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Crowder is almost a decade behind the trend, not that it's surprising.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:28

SatansOnion: Dec 12, 2011

quote:

Whether it�s spending more time and money at thrift shops for threads (anti-consumerist threads, mind you), or combing the record store for the most unknown/least coherent band they can find, there�s one thing that hipsters constantly want you to know: that they are better than you.

I'm probably not better than most people, and in fact could definitely stand to do more to make my corner of the world a better place, but I am absolutely confident that I am better than Steven Crowder.

For one thing, I have occasionally made people laugh. On purpose, even.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:59

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

Ah yes the well known Hipster stereotype, loving Bin Laden.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:04

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Hipsters: Scourge of Republicans

Most hipsters are crypto-conservatives.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:07

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Mr Interweb posted:

You would think that if there's one demographic that makes no sense to attack for being "lazy" it would be college students. What do these morons think people go to college for in the first place?

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# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:10

mr. mephistopheles: Dec 2, 2009

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Most hipsters are crypto-conservatives.

This has been my experience. If you get past the political apathy of most people that would get called "hipsters" it's a whole lot of FYGM.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:15

Tender Bender: Sep 17, 2004

Hipsters buy a lot of stuff, cool gadgets and skinny jeans are expensive. The lure of the thrift store is the old flannel, not the anti-consumerist mentality. He seems to be describing a young poor person until he brings up trust funds.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:20

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Crowder is just making poo poo up, as usual. Either that or he's describing the last dude that "stole" his girlfriend.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:57

VideoTapir: Oct 18, 2005; He'll tire eventually.

FuzzySkinner posted:

Also how come a more extensive model WORKS in countries like Germany, and other developed countries?

Pfft, if it worked so well why'd we kick their rear end in WWII?

# ? Jan 18, 2015 05:08

Hazo: Dec 30, 2004; SCIENCE

Loving the new Air Force recruitment commercial showing ultra expensive taxpayer-funded jets doing totally rad flips and poo poo interspersed with clips of recent presidents praising USAF members. You know, except for that one. Gotta keep up that "Obama hates the military" narrative.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 05:29

Vahakyla: May 3, 2013

Using the current president in those has never been cool. So you might be reading a bit too much into it.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 09:22

PupsOfWar: Dec 6, 2013

Hazo posted:

Loving the new Air Force recruitment commercial showing ultra expensive taxpayer-funded jets doing totally rad flips and poo poo interspersed with clips of recent presidents praising USAF members. You know, except for that one. Gotta keep up that "Obama hates the military" narrative.

one day there will be a supercarrier or a railgun cruiser called the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama and there is nothing conservatives will be able to do about it.

I wonder how much turmoil there was when the Cesar Chavez was commissioned

# ? Jan 18, 2015 11:37

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

It's a cargo ship so nobody gave a gently caress.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 13:49

Hazo: Dec 30, 2004; SCIENCE

Vahakyla posted:

Using the current president in those has never been cool. So you might be reading a bit too much into it.

I didn't think of this, you're probably right. They did use Kennedy and Clinton at least (no Carter though).

PupsOfWar posted:

one day there will be a supercarrier or a railgun cruiser called the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama and there is nothing conservatives will be able to do about it.

I'm pretty sure there was already a hilarious freakout by gamer nerds/military fetishists when one of the new CoD games had it.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 15:51

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Obama will be on money, his face is iconic.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 15:53

CarterUSM: Mar 17, 2004; Cornfield aviator

Hazo posted:

I didn't think of this, you're probably right. They did use Kennedy and Clinton at least (no Carter though).

Jimmy Carter belongs to the Navy.

CarterUSM fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jan 18, 2015

# ? Jan 18, 2015 15:57

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Look at these "hipsters" saving money at thrift shops and living within their means.

edit:

Huh. This is a first:

quote:

Fox News apologizes 4 times for inaccurate comments about Muslims in Europe

Fox News took time out of four broadcasts on Saturday to apologize for four separate instances of incorrect information that portrayed Muslims in a negative light.

Several of the cases involved incendiary comments about "no-go zones" in Europe, where Islamic law supposedly supersedes local law and where non-Muslims fear to go.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/18/media/fox-apologizes-for-anti-islam-comments/index.html

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jan 18, 2015

# ? Jan 18, 2015 16:19

DarkCrawler: Apr 6, 2009; by vyelkin

BiggerBoat posted:

Look at these "hipsters" saving money at thrift shops and living within their means.

edit:

Huh. This is a first:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/18/media/fox-apologizes-for-anti-islam-comments/index.html

I guess European media actually called them out on their poo poo?

# ? Jan 18, 2015 17:14

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

BiggerBoat posted:

Look at these "hipsters" saving money at thrift shops and living within their means.

edit:

Huh. This is a first:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/18/media/fox-apologizes-for-anti-islam-comments/index.html

You're missing the best part of the apology.

[quote]Earlier on Saturday, on the morning show "Fox & Friends," co-host Anna Kooiman referred to the previous week's program, when "we showed a map of neighborhoods in France labeled as no-go zones."

"Some of the neighborhoods were highlighted incorrectly," she said. "We apologize for the error."[.quote]

# ? Jan 18, 2015 17:19

InequalityGodzilla: May 31, 2012

PupsOfWar posted:

one day there will be a supercarrier or a railgun cruiser called the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama and there is nothing conservatives will be able to do about it.

I wonder how much turmoil there was when the Cesar Chavez was commissioned

I really hope he gets some ridiculously over powered experimental weapon named after him or something. The sort of thing military nuts would've been creaming their pants over otherwise.

USS island-sized dreadnought Barack H. Obama

War of the worlds style deathray tripod Barack H. Obama

# ? Jan 18, 2015 17:34

Good Citizen: Aug 12, 2008; trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

InequalityGodzilla posted:

I really hope he gets some ridiculously over powered experimental weapon named after him or something. The sort of thing military nuts would've been creaming their pants over otherwise.

USS island-sized dreadnought Barack H. Obama

War of the worlds style deathray tripod Barack H. Obama

I hope he gets something that sounds really cool in theory but is ultimately ineffective because at least it would be in character.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 17:44

Rexicon1: Oct 9, 2007; A Shameful Path Led You Here

BiggerBoat posted:

Huh. This is a first:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/18/media/fox-apologizes-for-anti-islam-comments/index.html

Why the gently caress is this on CNN Money?

# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:10

pacerhimself: Dec 30, 2008; by Fluffdaddy

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

You're missing the best part of the apology.

[quote]Earlier on Saturday, on the morning show "Fox & Friends," co-host Anna Kooiman referred to the previous week's program, when "we showed a map of neighborhoods in France labeled as no-go zones."

"Some of the neighborhoods were highlighted incorrectly," she said. "We apologize for the error."[.quote]

You mean the lovely weasel word non apology?

# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:17

InequalityGodzilla: May 31, 2012

Good Citizen posted:

I hope he gets something that sounds really cool in theory but is ultimately ineffective because at least it would be in character.

Orbital laser superweapon that we never actually get to fire in a combat scenario?

# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:18

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

pacerhimself posted:

You mean the lovely weasel word non apology?

Yeah, it's so transparent and their audience can keep freaking out over nothing.

Which, I suppose, is the natural state of Fox News' audience.

# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:20

Zanzibar Ham: Mar 17, 2009; You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.; Grimey Drawer

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Orbital laser superweapon that we never actually get to fire in a combat scenario?

That would be fitting because Barack sounds like the Hebrew word for lightning.

(and before you ask, no, bless or blessed or something would sound more like baruch)

# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:21

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

Good Citizen posted:

I hope he gets something that sounds really cool in theory but is ultimately ineffective because at least it would be in character.

So his own aircraft carrier class?

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Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

Rexicon1 posted:

Why the gently caress is this on CNN Money?

That's probably Brian Stelter's default section.

What I really wanna know is why are we forced into seeing new comments automatically while reading the article

# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:30

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