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Those places have a more . . . unified culture. America is a very large, diverse country so plans like that won't work here. Some people are just lazy good-for-nothings, and the state needs to recognize that and incentivize them as opposed to coddling them with free hand outs.
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# ? Jan 17, 2015 18:20 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:My dad put it on Fox News, and my head is currently hurting. I hope whoever would say something like this had or would force their children to pay for their college education themselves and not help at all.
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# ? Jan 17, 2015 18:26 |
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Here's the typical Fox News argument against it and some of the talking points I heard.quote:As the president noted in his speech, his proposal -- “America’s College Promise” -- is based on Gov. Bill Haslam's Tennessee Promise program, which offers free tuition to students attending two years of community or technical college. While the president’s plan will certainly make community college accessible to many more students, it is also far from clear that such students will benefit. Bill Haslam IS A REPUBLICAN by the way. quote:Consider that, at present, graduation rates for students at community colleges are dismal: around 25 percent for students who do not transfer, the lowest 6-year completion rate in U.S. higher-education. (For the roughly one-fifth of community college enrollees who do eventually transfer to a four year college, the graduation rate, at 62 percent, is far better.)[quote] http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/01/09/obama-free-community-college-plan-why-it-could-hurt-more-than-help/ This all sounds eerily like "No Child Left Behind" btw. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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It's kind of fun to see Arizona politicians complaining about the free community college thing when it's specifically mentioned in our constitution: Section 6. The university and all other state educational institutions shall be open to students of both sexes, and the instruction furnished shall be as nearly free as possible. The legislature shall provide for a system of common schools by which a free school shall be established and maintained in every school district for at least six months in each year, which school shall be open to all pupils between the ages of six and twenty-one years.
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# ? Jan 17, 2015 19:04 |
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It's kind of fun to see Arizona politicians complaining about the free community college thing when it's specifically mentioned in our constitution:
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# ? Jan 17, 2015 19:52 |
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The community college graduation rate is really low, therefore we shouldn't do anything to help community college students. However, reform is needed; I propose vague goals with no clear plan as to how to achieve them. But it definitely shouldn't cost any money.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 00:48 |
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You would think that if there's one demographic that makes no sense to attack for being "lazy" it would be college students. What do these morons think people go to college for in the first place?
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:02 |
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Hipsters: Scourge of Republicansquote:The Trouble With Hipsters by Steven Crowder
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:11 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Hipsters: Scourge of Republicans I'm constantly amazed that a self-proclaimed comedian can't ever seem to make a funny joke when picking on the easiest targets on the planet.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:14 |
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Steven Crowder is the last person who should be talking about Hipsters and 'trust-fund jackasses'.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:15 |
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"Trust fund jackass"? Crowder doesn't like the idea of people getting supported by rich mommies and daddies? Does that mean he supports the estate tax?
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:23 |
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Mr Interweb posted:You would think that if there's one demographic that makes no sense to attack for being "lazy" it would be college students. What do these morons think people go to college for in the first place? To PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:24 |
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Crowder is almost a decade behind the trend, not that it's surprising.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:28 |
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quote:Whether it’s spending more time and money at thrift shops for threads (anti-consumerist threads, mind you), or combing the record store for the most unknown/least coherent band they can find, there’s one thing that hipsters constantly want you to know: that they are better than you. I'm probably not better than most people, and in fact could definitely stand to do more to make my corner of the world a better place, but I am absolutely confident that I am better than Steven Crowder. For one thing, I have occasionally made people laugh. On purpose, even.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 01:59 |
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Ah yes the well known Hipster stereotype, loving Bin Laden.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:04 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Hipsters: Scourge of Republicans Most hipsters are crypto-conservatives.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:07 |
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Mr Interweb posted:You would think that if there's one demographic that makes no sense to attack for being "lazy" it would be college students. What do these morons think people go to college for in the first place? sexual orgies so vile that I cannot describe them to you
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:10 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Most hipsters are crypto-conservatives. This has been my experience. If you get past the political apathy of most people that would get called "hipsters" it's a whole lot of FYGM.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:15 |
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Hipsters buy a lot of stuff, cool gadgets and skinny jeans are expensive. The lure of the thrift store is the old flannel, not the anti-consumerist mentality. He seems to be describing a young poor person until he brings up trust funds.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:20 |
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Crowder is just making poo poo up, as usual. Either that or he's describing the last dude that "stole" his girlfriend.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 04:57 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:
Pfft, if it worked so well why'd we kick their rear end in WWII?
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 05:08 |
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Loving the new Air Force recruitment commercial showing ultra expensive taxpayer-funded jets doing totally rad flips and poo poo interspersed with clips of recent presidents praising USAF members. You know, except for that one. Gotta keep up that "Obama hates the military" narrative.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 05:29 |
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Using the current president in those has never been cool. So you might be reading a bit too much into it.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 09:22 |
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Hazo posted:Loving the new Air Force recruitment commercial showing ultra expensive taxpayer-funded jets doing totally rad flips and poo poo interspersed with clips of recent presidents praising USAF members. You know, except for that one. Gotta keep up that "Obama hates the military" narrative. one day there will be a supercarrier or a railgun cruiser called the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama and there is nothing conservatives will be able to do about it. I wonder how much turmoil there was when the Cesar Chavez was commissioned
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 11:37 |
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It's a cargo ship so nobody gave a gently caress.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 13:49 |
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Vahakyla posted:Using the current president in those has never been cool. So you might be reading a bit too much into it. PupsOfWar posted:one day there will be a supercarrier or a railgun cruiser called the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama and there is nothing conservatives will be able to do about it.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 15:51 |
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Obama will be on money, his face is iconic.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 15:53 |
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Hazo posted:I didn't think of this, you're probably right. They did use Kennedy and Clinton at least (no Carter though). Jimmy Carter belongs to the Navy. CarterUSM fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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Look at these "hipsters" saving money at thrift shops and living within their means. edit: Huh. This is a first: quote:Fox News apologizes 4 times for inaccurate comments about Muslims in Europe http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/18/media/fox-apologizes-for-anti-islam-comments/index.html BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jan 18, 2015 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Look at these "hipsters" saving money at thrift shops and living within their means. I guess European media actually called them out on their poo poo?
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BiggerBoat posted:Look at these "hipsters" saving money at thrift shops and living within their means. [quote]Earlier on Saturday, on the morning show "Fox & Friends," co-host Anna Kooiman referred to the previous week's program, when "we showed a map of neighborhoods in France labeled as no-go zones." "Some of the neighborhoods were highlighted incorrectly," she said. "We apologize for the error."[.quote]
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 17:19 |
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PupsOfWar posted:one day there will be a supercarrier or a railgun cruiser called the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama and there is nothing conservatives will be able to do about it. USS island-sized dreadnought Barack H. Obama War of the worlds style deathray tripod Barack H. Obama
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 17:34 |
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InequalityGodzilla posted:I really hope he gets some ridiculously over powered experimental weapon named after him or something. The sort of thing military nuts would've been creaming their pants over otherwise. I hope he gets something that sounds really cool in theory but is ultimately ineffective because at least it would be in character.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 17:44 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Huh. This is a first: Why the gently caress is this on CNN Money?
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:10 |
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:You're missing the best part of the apology. You mean the lovely weasel word non apology?
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:17 |
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Good Citizen posted:I hope he gets something that sounds really cool in theory but is ultimately ineffective because at least it would be in character.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:18 |
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pacerhimself posted:You mean the lovely weasel word non apology? Which, I suppose, is the natural state of Fox News' audience.
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:20 |
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Orbital laser superweapon that we never actually get to fire in a combat scenario? That would be fitting because Barack sounds like the Hebrew word for lightning. (and before you ask, no, bless or blessed or something would sound more like baruch)
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# ? Jan 18, 2015 18:21 |
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Good Citizen posted:I hope he gets something that sounds really cool in theory but is ultimately ineffective because at least it would be in character. So his own aircraft carrier class?
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Rexicon1 posted:Why the gently caress is this on CNN Money? That's probably Brian Stelter's default section. What I really wanna know is why are we forced into seeing new comments automatically while reading the article
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