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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I wish they went after other totems. All cutting a swathe through the stupid assholes who make up the Vultures of the Multiverse (whoa "Vultures of the Multiverse" sounds totally rad as a name). All those fragile bones must be delicious!
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Blockhouse posted:hahahahaha Uh where is that coming from? I just re-read the Spider-Girl/Ben story in Team-Up and I didn't see anything to suggest it is some other non-MC2 May.
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Jan 22, 2015 03:53
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I wish they went after other totems. All cutting a swathe through the stupid assholes who make up the Vultures of the Multiverse (whoa "Vultures of the Multiverse" sounds totally rad as a name). Hollow bones will snap in your mouth and you end up swallowing shards. There's a reason you don't give dogs chicken bones but cow and pig ones are fine.
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Jan 22, 2015 03:56
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There's actually a bird in France they force feed, put it in horrible conditions, and it's eaten whole. Bones and all. As in, they put the whole thing in the mouth and then chew. And when it's eaten they all wear towels on their head and cover...I dunno...their shame? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting It's protected.
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Jan 22, 2015 03:59
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It's actually to keep in all the vapors because Bunting smells super delicious.
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Jan 22, 2015 04:42
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I wish they went after other totems. All cutting a swathe through the stupid assholes who make up the Vultures of the Multiverse (whoa "Vultures of the Multiverse" sounds totally rad as a name). If these vampires were in a psychedelic blues band, this event would probably be better for it.
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Jan 22, 2015 05:01
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Gatts posted:There's actually a bird in France they force feed, put it in horrible conditions, and it's eaten whole. Bones and all. As in, they put the whole thing in the mouth and then chew. And when it's eaten they all wear towels on their head and cover...I dunno...their shame? I've read about this before, and I kinda want to do it. I am the crime that can't be forgiven.
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Jan 22, 2015 05:05
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Gatts posted:There's actually a bird in France they force feed, put it in horrible conditions, and it's eaten whole. Bones and all. As in, they put the whole thing in the mouth and then chew. And when it's eaten they all wear towels on their head and cover...I dunno...their shame? Last season of Hannibal featured it and it was more disgusting than human sausages and a person sewn into a horse.
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Jan 22, 2015 09:46
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notthegoatseguy posted:Uh where is that coming from? I just re-read the Spider-Girl/Ben story in Team-Up and I didn't see anything to suggest it is some other non-MC2 May. She uses the same narration in ASM #8 (which DeFalco and Frenz both called out as being inconsistent with 130+ issues, among other things), refers to her brother as 'Benny' instead of 'Benjy', and even states basically 'in an infinite multiverse, I hope there's an alternate me eating wheatcakes with her family right now'. The only way it could be more obvious would be if MC2 Mayday and her family showed up on panel, but DeFalco probably couldn't get away with that. If nothing else, it creates reasonable doubt.
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Jan 22, 2015 10:32
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Eh, that was my pet theory earlier. For example, Ultimate Universe was misidentified with another number. In a later issue (I think the recap of Spider-Verse Team-Up or something) they re-IDed it as the correct number. Maybe in DeFalco's own mind. But Spider-Verse couldn't be more clear that these are the actual Spider-Men from their respective verses. Benjy and Benny are both sort for Benjamin. It isn't like the baby has been called some completely unrelated name like John. notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Jan 22, 2015 12:08
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DeFalco doing that all time reach for a No Prize.
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Jan 22, 2015 12:13
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Dreqqus posted:Why does the Anne Rice Fanclub suddenly want to go all multiversal genocide on their food supply all of a sudden? This one has been explained in the series. The Anne Rice Fanclub have a prophecy that eventually the Spider-Totems are going to unite and rise up and permanently kill all of them....some 1,000 in the future. They have found a loop hole which is that if they can combine the blood of the Scion, the Bride and the Other into a ritual they can stop any more Totems from coming into being naturally. Ergo there will be no totems 1,000 years in the future to kill them. On the flip side, the smartest of the Inheritors (Jennix) has decided that to get around the problem of starving to death, he has been experimenting with a method of cloning Spider-men that would still allow them to have a Totemic Essence that they could eat. (As he says, Farming of animals is what makes men Civilized.) It would be funny if the end prophecy was that the Inheritors triumphed, wiped out the Spider's but ended up dying a slow painful death over 1,000 years due to the corrupting influence of their fake synthetic totem meals. However that's pretty dark, so i think a better ending is for Peter and the gang to raise an army of Spider-people and to take down the Inheritors that way.
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Jan 22, 2015 18:00
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The Question IRL posted:This one has been explained in the series. Wait, did they forget they can eat other kinds of totems? Like the very first Morlun story is just him looking for animal totems, not Spiders in specific.
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ImpAtom posted:Wait, did they forget they can eat other kinds of totems? Like the very first Morlun story is just him looking for animal totems, not Spiders in specific. I think the Inheritors felt that a "Black Panther-verse" story was just going to end like the Black Panther: Civil War tie in. And they didn't want that.
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Jan 22, 2015 18:39
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ImpAtom posted:Wait, did they forget they can eat other kinds of totems? Like the very first Morlun story is just him looking for animal totems, not Spiders in specific. I don;t think they are the ones who forgot that...
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Jan 22, 2015 18:48
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Other totems aren't the ones prophesied to kill them.
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Jan 22, 2015 18:49
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notthegoatseguy posted:Eh, that was my pet theory earlier. For example, Ultimate Universe was misidentified with another number. In a later issue (I think the recap of Spider-Verse Team-Up or something) they re-IDed it as the correct number. Best analogy is what Steve Gerber did with Howard the Duck-he spun off the 'real' Howard into his own character (Leonard the Duck), leaving a clone behind to be Howard in 616. Besides, Slott was the one to make the initial continuity cockups on Spider-Girl. Not really surprising DeFalco took that and ran with it. It's a much more elegant retcon of the butchering of her character than say, Adam Beechen's fumbling to try and fix Cassandra Cain. Waterhaul posted:DeFalco doing that all time reach for a No Prize.
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Waterhaul posted:Other totems aren't the ones prophesied to kill them. Yes, but that doesn't explain why they would need synthetic Spider totems when they can just go eat more Captain Condors.
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Jan 22, 2015 19:08
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, but that doesn't explain why they would need synthetic Spider totems when they can just go eat more Captain Condors. Because they do need to eat Spider-Totems. The initial appearance of Morlun explained it as him needing to eat totems of every type, and it just so happened that he was running low on Spidey energy.
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So does anyone else think that Spock is going to clone himself somehow before this is over, so he's alive in some universe?
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Well the cloning machines are all destroyed now and we've already seen that Spock returns to the "present" after all of this with no memory of what happened. (And Marvel are going ahead and destroying all other universes)
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Jan 22, 2015 20:06
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I thought that this Otto was a time-clone thing. Like temporally he goes into the anomaly and then exits simultaneously in the present and in 2099, so there's two of him but they never ended up existing at the same time. I figured that was going to have to be dealt with as some weird fall-out from the end of the Spiderverse stuff, Otto having nowhere to go. Did I misunderstand what that issue of Superior was saying about what happened?
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Jan 23, 2015 01:23
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Knowing Slott I'm sure he'll find a way to keep his self-insert character around and coexist with Peter.
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Time Machine explodes and sends Otto to 2099 and then the events of Spider-Verse begin. When Otto was brought back to the present he was caught mid-sentence shouting "You haven't seen the last of Dr. Ot-" just before forgetting what had happened to him inbetween the explosion and returning. So probably after all the Inheritor stuff gets cleaned up, his identity gets revealed and he'll duke it out with the other Spider-Men a bit before he gets returned to where he should be.
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Rhyno posted:Knowing Slott I'm sure he'll find a way to keep his self-insert character around and coexist with Peter. Yep, that seems likely. Question: what is the point of Spider-Verse? I mean, it seems like all these alternate Spideys will go home only to get incursion'd. I really don't see how this ties into Secret Wars or the incursions, despite Slott claiming it would fit. Hell, we know at least character (Spider-UK) will make it through Spider-Verse only to die in Time Runs Out. It just seems exceptionally poorly-timed. Honestly, for a Doctor Who fan, Slott should have taken a look at The Day of The Doctor for how to do a big celebration of a franchise without bloating it and ruining everything. Just pick one or two alternate Spideys (Peter, Miles, and one or two others) on a smaller-scale adventure, then break out the army of Spideys for some big gently caress yeah moment, rather than have them be annihilated piecemeal. You could have had tie-ins and team-ups going on, just having other Spideys teaming up as a warm-up for the big finale. I genuinely wish we could have got Spider-Men 2 over this event.
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Waterhaul posted:Well the cloning machines are all destroyed now and we've already seen that Spock returns to the "present" after all of this with no memory of what happened.
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Castomira posted:Marvel isn't going to start running Spider-Gwen only to end it in the middle of a storyline by dropping a bridge on her universe. No but they sure are going to miss the point and bring her into the nu616 without any of the supporting cast and the setting that made the take interesting like every other time an alternate version catches big.
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Were we talking about pretty much any other character, I'd probably agree with you, but if editorial really wanted a Gwen Stacy alive in 616 again, she would have come back after BND.
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Castomira posted:Were we talking about pretty much any other character, I'd probably agree with you, but if editorial really wanted a Gwen Stacy alive in 616 again, she would have come back after BND. Except that predated the Webb films where Emma Stone made her popular again as well as Spider-Gwen herself.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Except that predated the Webb films where Emma Stone made her popular again as well as Spider-Gwen herself. You are aware that JMS's original plan for that was to bring Gwen Stacy back right?
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Rhyno posted:You are aware that JMS's original plan for that was to bring Gwen Stacy back right? I'm going to say he does and that's why he pointed out that she is significantly more popular now then she was then, which increases the chances of them bringing her alternate version into the new pizza metaphor that is the future marvel universe.
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The most popular and well known version of the character died on screen last summer so its not like anyone is clamoring for her to really return.
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I honestly wouldn't mind in the least if 616 Peter got replaced with an alive Ultimate Peter. Trade in 616 Aunt May too. Miles, Peter, and Gwen; Teenage Spider People would be some great fun. I'd put all the continuity of my Spider-Man collection on the shelf for something new and exciting.
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Rhyno posted:You are aware that JMS's original plan for that was to bring Gwen Stacy back right? Of course, I'm also hoping that Spider-Gwen's reality will turn out to be a gimmick universe where Elektra watches over Hell's Kitchen and Peggy Carter got the super-serum (and so on, and so forth,) so I'm not really arguing in good faith so much as trying to convince myself.
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Rhyno posted:The most popular and well known version of the character died on screen last summer so its not like anyone is clamoring for her to really return. That's been pretty widely acknowledged as a mistake though.
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I am not sure a character (if you want to call her that I guess) that appeared in two movies is the most popular iteration of the character. Or that many people cared all that much that she died. Edit: I mean maybe by default? Because she isn't a well known character (outside comic circles) and I don't think that has changed. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Die Laughing posted:I honestly wouldn't mind in the least if 616 Peter got replaced with an alive Ultimate Peter. Trade in 616 Aunt May too. Miles, Peter, and Gwen; Teenage Spider People would be some great fun. I'd put all the continuity of my Spider-Man collection on the shelf for something new and exciting. Castomira posted:I am, and if editorial wouldn't go for it during their most infamous moment of profoundly asinine fuckery, when their objective was to do everything in their power to torpedo Pete's relationship with MJ, I don't think they'd do it now. At least, I hope they wouldn't.
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Remember when editorial was super excited about bringing Harry Osborn back, and everyone was like "We lost such a great Spider-man supporting character when he died, now we can tell good stories again and ditch all this post-90s bullshit!" Where's Harry now?
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I'm selfish and way past being a teen and there are enough teen spideys. Give me Papa Peter married to MJ and move on.
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Lurdiak posted:Remember when editorial was super excited about bringing Harry Osborn back, and everyone was like "We lost such a great Spider-man supporting character when he died, now we can tell good stories again and ditch all this post-90s bullshit!" Gatts posted:I'm selfish and way past being a teen and there are enough teen spideys. Give me Papa Peter married to MJ and move on. 
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