QwertyAsher posted:

if the dayton newspaper employed a political cartoonist, it would show dayton's commitment to arts and culture, and would attract people from far and wide to it's amazing marvels, quickly becoming a city to rival paris or berlin

Grapplejack posted:

He... he did? He mentioned selling the buildings on the cheap to people who would be willing to renovate them and not tear them down, and cites that as having worked previously.

Hexigrammus posted:

Me too. Not sure about the symbolism though - if that's a Canuck Maple Leaf Butterfly it should be trapped in the Stars and Stripes bottle along with the Aussie.

Fojar38 posted:

I reverse image searched it and the context is an article written by a former Australian Prime Minister about how Australia should be strategically independent from the United States and cited Canada as an example because Canada didn't participate in the Iraq War. This was an odd comparison to make because Canada is probably more strategically integrated with the US than any other country, making the article look like a false dichotomy.

Mister Beeg posted:

Funny thing is, Dayton Daily News still have their cartoonist on-staff (Mike Peters)

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Yeah. Like, I know it's Ted Rall and everything, but I was able to read the entire thing and not be confused. The whole thing was actually rather clear and coherent.

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William Jennings Bryan, then-Secretary of State, is depicted as standing on an enormous bag of money marked as aid for Latin America. “We can afford to be generous”, he says, while an American “wage worker”, his wife and child, and a child laborer look on. The woman is labeled “ice less” because she is too poor to afford ice. In the summer, the heat was considered a health issue, particularly for children.

Mister Beeg posted:

Funny thing is, Dayton Daily News still have their cartoonist on-staff (Mike Peters)

Yeah. Like, I know it's Ted Rall and everything, but I was able to read the entire thing and not be confused. The whole thing was actually rather clear and coherent.

Kid Fenris posted:

It's probably the least lovely Rall cartoon I've seen. I grew up in Dayton in the 1990s and early 2000s, and that's a pretty accurate breakdown of the city's problems.

zakharov posted:

I like to hate on Rall as much as the next dude but that comic was interestng and informative.

CampingCarl posted:

I think this is the first time we have seen whoever that is from the front, not looking smugly upwards, and with their eyes open. It might as well be a completely new traced porno position character.

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For decades, cities like Dayton, Ohio have been demolishing their architecturally significant buildings with abandon. Now we know why. Ted Rall cartoon.

Titus Sardonicus posted:

So true. Sometimes I think maybe I should just stick to my principles and enroll her in a public school because it's just the right thing to do re: civic duty, and fight for the quality of the schools themselves, all the while, hoping that my wife and I (and the community as a whole, "it takes a village," etc.) can do a good job enriching her and filling in the gaps. But that's just too idealistic then, isn't it?

forbidden lesbian posted:

Get this - you can post [Far Side] and there's not a lot Gary can do to stop you

A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:

Crosspost from the Newspaper Comics thread of Mike Lester's terrible comic strip. No one seems to have noticed yet that this is more than a lazy "man-eating pigeons" gag.

Kid Fenris posted:

It's probably the least lovely Rall cartoon I've seen. I grew up in Dayton in the 1990s and early 2000s, and that's a pretty accurate breakdown of the city's problems.

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Mister Beeg posted:

We were talking about Robin Hood a few pages ago...

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Bloodnose posted:

DID SOMEBODY SAY 689??

vyelkin posted:

This is pretty dumb and shows the person doesn't know much about Canada. We didn't go into Iraq for political reasons, yes, but to compensate we increased our commitment to the war in Afghanistan right as the US was invading Iraq, thus freeing up an equivalent number of US troops as we would have been able to send in the first place. It was very much planned that way because politically Afghanistan was a much easier sell for the Canadian public but the end result was virtually identical. That being said, it didn't stop our then-PM from making a big show of how he was able to defy the US and prove Canadian sovereignty, while simultaneously giving the US what they basically wanted anyway.

Mister Beeg posted:

Funny thing is, Dayton Daily News still have their cartoonist on-staff (Mike Peters)

Mallard Fillmore posted:

“I Killed Martin Luther King”…

I can still remember exactly where I was, and what I was doing, when they told me that I killed Martin Luther King. I was in my house, watching our old black and white TV, and I was nine years old. A talking head looked me right in the eye and said that, while I may not have pulled the trigger, “we ALL killed Dr. King”. I didn’t know then that it was the first of thousands of times I’d hear that over the next forty-seven years.

“We ALL” didn’t. Not just we nine-year-olds didn’t, but all of the people, black and white, who supported his ideal of equality, didn’t. But not just them. People who didn’t support Dr. King’s ideas, disagreed with them, even people who were indifferent to them…they didn’t kill him , either.

James Earl Ray (and any accomplices he might have had) killed Martin Luther King, and to say otherwise trivializes his evil act.

But, to a lot of folks, especially in the media and the academy, it sounded wise, circumspect, gratifyingly contrite and, most importantly, in step with the Zeitgeist (cool), to indict an entire people, and “culture” for the evil of one man.

It was, as I saw it, the beginning of a polemical pattern that metastasized into a philosophy. As I went from the late ’Sixties into the ‘Seventies, everything began to be “society’s fault”, America’s fault, “Western Civilization’s fault,” and basically, anybody’s fault but the person or group who actually DID whatever it was that was done. Kids did drugs because of “societal pressure”, violent criminals, who’ve been committing violent crimes for thousands of years, suddenly killed old ladies and children through no fault of their own, but “because of our society”. Fathers who abandoned their children were simply obeying some sort of cultural imperative that society had thrust upon them.

When evil actions are everybody’s fault, they’re nobody’s fault. And, when we erase individual responsibility, as we’ve been desperately doing for all of these years, we make doing evil and doing good equally meaningless. Just random acts blowing in the wind of circumstance.

Dr. King would be the first to denounce such a “legacy”.

Duckbag posted:

Sorry Flaskraven, that was actually posted a few pages ago. Thanks for keeping the hatred alive though.

Flaskraven posted:

It was, as I saw it, the beginning of a polemical pattern that metastasized into a philosophy. As I went from the late ’Sixties into the ‘Seventies, everything began to be “society’s fault”, America’s fault, “Western Civilization’s fault,” and basically, anybody’s fault but the person or group who actually DID whatever it was that was done. Kids did drugs because of “societal pressure”, violent criminals, who’ve been committing violent crimes for thousands of years, suddenly killed old ladies and children through no fault of their own, but “because of our society”. Fathers who abandoned their children were simply obeying some sort of cultural imperative that society had thrust upon them.

Flaskraven posted:

This thread moves too fast for me sometimes. I'm going to see a political cartoonist who comes to my town today, I might actually contribute something to the thread after that.

vyelkin posted:

The Sun tabloid in Britain (a terrible newspaper and the flagship of Rupert Murdoch's awful empire) has for decades included a picture of a topless model on its third page (i.e. the one you see as soon as you open the front cover). They recently announced they're going to stop doing that (because it's terrible). That tweet is really confusing though, maybe they have decided to keep doing it after all?

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Who's the cartoonist?

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Xander77 posted:

That seems... like a really astute political move?

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World Famous Whore posted:

I... I don't know. It seemed like a good idea at the time.