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Yet another advantage to growing up in the 80's, all you needed to dismantle everything your parents owned was a phillips screwdriver. Shame about the music though.
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xzzy posted:Yet another advantage to growing up in the 80's, all you needed to dismantle everything your parents owned was a phillips screwdriver. Almost all the philips head and allen bolts and screws WILL be soft as swiss cheese, however.
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Jan 22, 2015 19:39
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xzzy posted:Yet another advantage to growing up in the 80's, all you needed to dismantle everything your parents owned was a phillips screwdriver. Yeah it's a shame it isn't all Lady Gaga and dubstep like today's crap.
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xzzy posted:Yet another advantage to growing up in the 80's, all you needed to dismantle everything your parents owned was a phillips screwdriver. My first car was the original Ford Taurus complete with cassette deck. Used to make foreigner mix tapes and blast it while driving around thinking I was hot poo poo. Turns out I was just poo poo.
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PCOS Bill posted:Yeah it's a shame it isn't all Lady Gaga and dubstep like today's crap. What year do you think it is?
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Cakefool posted:I don't think I've ever seen a 7 or 9mm bolt I think my Buick had something like that on the struts under the hood (which you had to move when you took the battery out  GM). The strut had two bolts that mounted it to the bumper, they were different sizes.
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kastein posted:https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/bolts/metric-bolt-head-size.aspx is relevant here. This has always pissed me off. Japanese car? 8, 10, 12, 14, 17mm + a few larger sizes is all you need. But GM, Ford a Chrysler? That wasn't good enough, let's use 13 and 15mm too, because, REASONS. And the goddamned metric bolts that you can get at most US suppliers follow the ANSI/ISO standard, so if I need to replace a M8 on my RX-7, all of a sudden no I have a loving 13mm in there with the 12mm bolts. I'm not very OCD, but that poo poo sets it off right there. Just couldn't go with what was already the standard, could you? Oh, and I know from my mobile electronics installer days that GM loved 7mm for dash screws. Mainly because the pre-metric cars used 9/32" screws, and 7mm = 9/32, or close enough, so they just didn't change. Thank god the newer ones also used a T10 inside the hex. Lots easier to deal with. InitialDave posted:It's only fun when you're dealing with random selections of metric and imperial (of all flavours, naturally) on one vehicle. Oh, I LOVED my '81 Buick Regal. The body was all (GM, oddball, see above) metric, but the engine, being a V6 designed in the 50's, was all SAE. Except for certain external bits that weren't, here and there. The rest of the drivetrain was SAE as well. Motronic posted:I still love all that imperial threadding with metric heads on Rover V8s. Brilliant idea your midland drunkards. Oh, holy poo poo. I guess that because it, too was designed by GM in the '50s. In fact, my 3.8L V6 was 3/4 of the original Buick 215ci aluminum V8, which became the Rover V8, in cast iron. But you guys probably already know that. Relative to fastener chat: http://xkcd.com/1474/
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 Someone's half-assed attempt to break into my car... lock still works though, thank you German over engineering
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Ugh, they chipped the door doing it, didn't they?
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InitialDave posted:Ugh, they chipped the door doing it, didn't they? You try to hold your hand steady high on meth/whatever drug they were on.
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InitialDave posted:Ugh, they chipped the door doing it, didn't they? Yep... in a pain in the rear end spot too. More pissed at that than the lock neckbeard fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Preoptopus posted:IOC has completely lost control of this thread. Here, let's try it in very simple terms. NOT TERRIBLE CAR STUFF  NOT TERRIBLE CAR STUFF  TERRIBLE CAR STUFF  TERRIBLE CAR STUFF 
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YEAH SURE BUT TALKING SMACK ABOUT THE MUSIC OF MY PEOPLE IS JUST FINE AND DANDY I SEE HOW IT FUCKIN' IS.
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CONTENT: The axle nut that wouldn't budge NOT CONTENT kastein posted:Hey you're not giving external pentalobe security torxplus enough credit here. EDIT: OH! *AND* make it so you can't replace the inner parts of the tool so if you have a 3/4" external pentalobe with a T8 torxplus and 2mm hex, you need a new tool for 3/4" external pentalobe with a T7 torxplus and 2mm hex /EDIT EDIT2: Like a more complicated patterned lug nut, with a few added steps for complexity. The top will also be made so if you go over the torque spec by more than 2%, the head sheers off, and with a few off-center harder metal rods going through the bolt, drilling it out will be difficult. This will increase per-unit cost to the manufacturers, but they will see more replacement part revenue since attempts to drill out the screw with the broken off head will screw up the part. At dealership service will increase because no one wants to have to replace a part because they broke off the bolt. (Dealers will be required to purchase the special tools AND the approved broken-bolt extractor (which will clamp onto the engine and use a special drill bit for the extraction). All broken off heads will not be covered under warranty and no matter the reason (even the dealer mechanics breaking off the head), and it will all be pointed at the customer doing unauthorized access/service to the car and will void all the warranties. Is this evil enough yet? Also, I'm terrible and I like torx and think torxplus is a good idea. Fire Storm fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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If I wanted one of those 1" drive 6000ft/lb monsters, what should I be googling for, and what sacrifices will I need to make? Just a goat, or are we moving to actual human sacrifice territory?
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Memento posted:If I wanted one of those 1" drive 6000ft/lb monsters, what should I be googling for, and what sacrifices will I need to make? Just a goat, or are we moving to actual human sacrifice territory? I searched for 1" torque multiplier in Google image search and found this link pretty quickly. And yes, it's on Amazon under a from a few different suppliers. Yeah, I may get one too.
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Ford superduties are hilariously easy to break into as well. 
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cursedshitbox posted:Ford superduties are hilariously easy to break into as well. 
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KoRMaK posted:Yea thats it, the same M.O. Right below the lock That's just asking to be broken into, the owner is obviously swimming in cash!
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Cakefool posted:I don't think I've ever seen a 7 or 9mm bolt Most of my interior is held together by 7.5mm bolts. And lots of plastic. It's a "domestic" (USDM GM). I'm not sure if there's a matching imperial size for 7.5mm, all I know is I have a 7.5mm socket + 1/4" drive screwdriver handle that works fantastic for removing the radio, HVAC, cluster, most of the interior, etc. It's the only 1/4" tool I keep around. There's a good chunk of SAE stuff too, and gently caress Torx screws forever. FogHelmut posted:And torx. I have a whole set of torx for a car I don't have anymore. If you need to sell those....
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Ain't got poo poo on trying to remove a 50 year old axle nut. I had to actually create tools to remove the axle nuts on the bug when I was taking it apart. Took a 4 foot piece of angle iron and welded a 1/4" plate to it then drilled 2 holes for lug bolts. Bolt that poo poo to the drum. Then had to use a 3 foot prybar with a 6 foot piece of pipe on it to get that poo poo to come loose.
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Rhyno posted:That's just asking to be broken into, the owner is obviously swimming in cash! He probably financed that 
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veedubfreak posted:Ain't got poo poo on trying to remove a 50 year old axle nut. I had to actually create tools to remove the axle nuts on the bug when I was taking it apart. Took a 4 foot piece of angle iron and welded a 1/4" plate to it then drilled 2 holes for lug bolts. Bolt that poo poo to the drum. Then had to use a 3 foot prybar with a 6 foot piece of pipe on it to get that poo poo to come loose. The angle iron+plate is a common sight in any ACVW owner's garage.  Dweebs at repair shops loooooved to over-torque them. And then they sit like that for 20+ years before an enthusiast scoops it up and tries to make the thing roadworthy again. My breaker bar has a lovely curve in it because of a bug's axle nut.
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xzzy posted:The angle iron+plate is a common sight in any ACVW owner's garage. Ya, all I was doing was turning the wheel. It kept pulling the chock under the car. That reminds me, it does have a non-split trans in it, so it was replaced at some point meaning that a wrench monkey probably over tightened it.
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Geoj posted:This is true of just about any engineer. There needs to be a "just because you can design something this way doesn't mean that you should" class that is a requirement for engineering degrees. A large percentage of engineers do not work on their own cars or do anything with their hands.
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some texas redneck posted:Most of my interior is held together by 7.5mm bolts. And lots of plastic. BMW seem to have a fondness for 6.5mm nuts on their hose clamps, on the older cars.
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Giblet Plus! posted:A large percentage of engineers do not work on their own cars or do anything with their hands. Doesn't mean you can't teach them "putting a frequent maintenance item behind something that would otherwise never be touched and is difficult to remove is a bad idea" or "no, really, this 2x3' panel does not need to be secured to the back of that machine with 25 machine screws."
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Giblet Plus! posted:A large percentage of engineers do not work on their own cars or do anything with their hands. Engineer here. I do my own brake jobs when I manage to keep a car long enough that it needs a brake job. Otherwise, I don't do anything myself. I haven't done a set of brakes in 8 years. I'm also terrible at anything with my hands, and anything I do will be done poorly and shoddily.
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eyebeem posted:
Same but not an engineer.
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PCOS Bill posted:Same but not an engineer. I'm an engineer and I do all my own work on everything I own, including engine rebuilds and engine swaps. I am definitely in the minority though, none of my fellow engineers do any of their own maintenance on anything they own, and think i'm crazy for doing so.
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crazzy posted:I'm an engineer and I do all my own work on everything I own, including engine rebuilds and engine swaps. I am definitely in the minority though, none of my fellow engineers do any of their own maintenance on anything they own, and think i'm crazy for doing so. I do all my own work too. ... You'd think eventually I'd git gud.
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PCOS Bill posted:I do all my own work too. ... You'd think eventually I'd git gud. Hah! I hear ya, i have friends like that. I'm just the crazy meticulous guy that takes something apart and tries to improve on whatever i'm trying to fix.......which means simple things take me much longer than they should! But i always get it working......eventually...........
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neckbeard posted:
Some fuckwit actually pretty much pried the lock out of the passenger door on my '79 RX-7, tearing the sheet metal (lock cylinder is separate from the door handle on this model), but still couldn't actually get in the car. They might have finally noticed the alarm LED at that point, but my money is on them being that loving inept. Somehow I don't hav e asingle picture of the damage done. Before I owned a smartphone (though I still own the car, and it still has the damage...) Giblet Plus! posted:A large percentage of engineers do not work on their own cars or do anything with their hands. This has been said by my dad, a mechanical engineer (who does work on his own cars, house, tractors, and shop equipment. I get most of my attitude and skill from him, apparently.)
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 This was the result of someone trying to break into my door. The tumbler was actually inside the door, supposedly it is a common technique to hit the lock with a hammer and chisel in order to get at the lock inside. They hosed up so badly it sealed the driver's door so I had to get in via the passenger door for a month until I could get it fixed.
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freelop posted:
What? That's clearly the passenger door.
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veedubfreak posted:What? That's clearly the passenger door. Just gonna savor this post
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