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paradoxGentleman posted:Seriously people, watch a couple of YGOpro duels on Youtube and try your hand at it. The game has changed but it's still fun. How representative is the one narrated by in-character Dan Green and Greg Abbey?
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Proof of this paradoxGentleman posted:Well, you could get rid of her with a Bottomless Trap Hole or a Torrential Tribute before her effect triggers, or something to negate her effect like Breakthrough Skill. If you don't have that though, you're going to have to take the hit.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Proof of this Just two days ago I made a friend of mine ragequit and directly say "I never want to duel the Nekroz again." I can't wait to tell him about this.
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Dexie posted:The more I look at that, the more I realize it's a 'win moar' card. You can't activate her (2) effect unless you don't summon that turn, meaning you have to keep three monsters on the field for one of your opponent's turns. If you can keep three monsters alive for a turn without your opponent getting rid of them, you're probably winning already and don't need her. So, uh...she's really not that great, I feel. Uhhh about that: quote:Nekroz Cycle
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You don't control monsters in the hand or extra deck. You only control monsters if they're on the field, and she has a summoning restriction on her, so...
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Both of those ritual monsters aren't really broken at all with those summoning requirement. You need 5 cards in the right place and the right conditions to summon it and their field wipe effect also mess you up. It's harder to summon than Egyptian God cards and you are left with about 0-2 cards in your hand + this monster in the field. Not to mention if your ritual getting negated and you still need to pay the cost of three monsters. There are ritual support cards that make this whole process easier, but not by much unless I missed something. I like the gimmick of ritual is basically super hard to summon but come with really powerful effects.
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She's still poo poo. She's going to be just like Apoqliphort Towers and Apoqliphort Skybase: a powerful monster that requires too much set up and investment, so she won't see any real play.
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Dexie posted:She's still poo poo. She's going to be just like Apoqliphort Towers and Apoqliphort Skybase: a powerful monster that requires too much set up and investment, so she won't see any real play. i have died too much to apoqliphort towers and skybase to agree with you
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Beef Waifu posted:There's a lot of teasing that relationship throughout the whole series to the point where Leo and Luna are sarcastically commentating on how they're the third wheel on a date between the two of them and the last episode has Aki confessing her feelings and Yusei accepting them with a very obvious kiss cut. So yes, a Yugioh series had a canon girlfriend for the protagonist. Didn't they then immediately go their separate ways in the epilogue?
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Dexie posted:She would still get her effect off if you chain Bottomless or Torrential. They don't negate effects. You'd want something like Breakthrough or Solemn Warning.
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Did the card game used to be simpler or is it just that I'm too old to understand how.
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PoshAlligator posted:Did the card game used to be simpler or is it just that I'm too old to understand how. It used to be a game where stuff happened, now it's just having the deck that plays itself faster. The graveyard went from a graveyard to the second hand.
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original yugioh kinda sucked tbh edit: the card game, not the show, can't judge there
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Anything beyond Metal Raiders is awful.
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currrent yugioh owns hard if you play skull servants and why the gently caress wouldnt you play skull servants
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For me Yu-Gi-Oh as a card game hit its peak around the time the first couple of batches of Western structure decks started to come out. They really pushed the way combos could work at me and I started to get it. And that Zombie deck man, Christ, what a wrecker.
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Rangpur posted:Ocassionally I get the urge to relive my youth where everything I watched on TV existed to sell me cards and toys. So where the hell are you all even following this, anyway? Does Netflix/Hulu/Crunchyroll carry the subtitled version or something? Hulu via http://www.yugioh.com has subbed versions of 5DS and Zexal, but otherwise watching the dubs. I just finished the GX episode where Jaden battles the stoned hippie and everyone but him gets stoned. This is just so stupid and I love it.
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Endorph posted:currrent yugioh owns hard if you play skull servants Because I'm too busy having fun with my spell/trapless superheavy samurai deck. I'm aware of how many ways someone can wreck me, but oh my god is it fun.
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Dabir posted:Didn't they then immediately go their separate ways in the epilogue? Literally everyone left Neo Domino City except for Yusei.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Not only Fusion, but also Synchro and XYZ, which is much more noteworthy as they are more commonly used; lots of deck mantain certain XYZ monsters in their Extra Deck just to deal with certain situations. It just feels like there are way too many cards to try and make a decent deck. Having to read a million different cards just to get stuff that works together is too time consuming for me to just jump into.
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there are a lot of cards but the days of just splashing the best cards into your deck are long over. You pick a theme you like, and find cards that support that theme. There's no shame in looking up a decklist and building your own deck off of that, either.
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Request to update Chumley Huffington's bio to mention eating, specifically grilled cheese sandwiches, loving said grilled cheese sandwiches, and whining about running.
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Daily reminder that Jack Atlas is the best character.
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This topic made me want to watch yu-gi-oh. I used to watch it ages ago but they re-ran it so many times I don't think I ever saw past the marik arc, in fact I don't think I ever saw the conclusion of it. So instead I started reading the manga. What's the general consensus on that? Better or worse than the show?
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Momomo posted:It just feels like there are way too many cards to try and make a decent deck. Having to read a million different cards just to get stuff that works together is too time consuming for me to just jump into. I'm going to quote myself from the other thread from like 1,5 year back. Xoidanor posted:I would try playing again but the obstacle of having to learn how the Xyz-monsters and new meta works seem like an insurmountable obstacle now when I have work. and then just one month later. Xoidanor posted:I've been playing for shortly over a month now and I really gotta say the XYZ format is a lot better then the Synchro format that came before it. While some of the new decks are kinda bullshit (spellbooks It probably helped that there today are things like yugitubers (so you efficiently can keep up with what is new) and the yugioh wikia (elaborate card tips for almost every card in the entire game) but it wasn't nearly as difficult as it first seemed. The best new thing is Devpro, it is fully automatic (like the DS games) so you don't actually need to know the rules by the back of your hand anymore to play. It's pretty great when getting back into things.  Nuebot posted:This topic made me want to watch yu-gi-oh. I used to watch it ages ago but they re-ran it so many times I don't think I ever saw past the marik arc, in fact I don't think I ever saw the conclusion of it. Everything up to the end of the pegasus arc is
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) the XYZ have really powered up a lot of old decks. Not to mention all the additional support for old archetypes (intentional and unintentional) that keeps coming out. Being able to build decks like Vehicroids, lvl 2 swarm and cyberdarks and go toe to toe with the top teir decks is pretty great.
Nuebot posted:This topic made me want to watch yu-gi-oh. I used to watch it ages ago but they re-ran it so many times I don't think I ever saw past the marik arc, in fact I don't think I ever saw the conclusion of it. Much tighter and better constructed. At the point you stopped watching the anime introduced a year or so of filler arc and then had a low budget for the end arc, so I suggest the manga and then if you want more DM you can watch the anime arcs.
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To be fair, the first filler arc in that stretch (Orichalcos) is generally considered one of the good examples of filler. And as crappy as the other one was, it gave us Kaiba beating the ever-loving crap out of the villain.
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Nuebot posted:This topic made me want to watch yu-gi-oh. I used to watch it ages ago but they re-ran it so many times I don't think I ever saw past the marik arc, in fact I don't think I ever saw the conclusion of it. The Manga of the time before the English Dub starts is freaking awesome and should be read by all.
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I didn't really care for the orichalcos stuff. The whole monster dimension thing is something I'm just not into and it being generic Yoshida (hear me out: darkness in mankind, eh? eh? sure isn't lame the fifth time right???) makes it worse for me in retrospect. The early manga is amazing and Death-T is a masterpiece. Joey is the only right character for never letting go of that.
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Oh wait, make sure to skip the chapter about loving tamogatchi, that was really lame.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Oh wait, make sure to skip the chapter about loving tamogatchi, that was really lame. No, you have to read that too. The little fucker went Yami and everything. Then it died. e: And it was a Digimon
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So I dunno much about the card game, but isn't Pendulum Summoning kinda a huge boost to XYZ summons? I know one of my friends played a deck based around having an 8 rank XYZ that required three level 8 monsters, and could just win the game after three turns with it. Being able to suddenly throw down three level 8 monsters in a single turn seems pretty big. Though it also seems like just throwing down 3 level 8 monsters at once would win you the game easier than that.
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I'd guess it's somewhat balanced out by Pendulum cards that are 9+ being relatively rare, but it's been ages since I last played.
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KittyEmpress posted:So I dunno much about the card game, but isn't Pendulum Summoning kinda a huge boost to XYZ summons? I know one of my friends played a deck based around having an 8 rank XYZ that required three level 8 monsters, and could just win the game after three turns with it. Being able to suddenly throw down three level 8 monsters in a single turn seems pretty big. There's not many Pendulum monsters that have a scale of 9, and the ones that DO usually have a restriction on them, usually only letting you summon monsters of that archetype.
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I think you will have better luck and safer with synchro summon using a bunch of 4+4 level than having a bunch of level 8 in your hand.
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KittyEmpress posted:So I dunno much about the card game, but isn't Pendulum Summoning kinda a huge boost to XYZ summons? I know one of my friends played a deck based around having an 8 rank XYZ that required three level 8 monsters, and could just win the game after three turns with it. Being able to suddenly throw down three level 8 monsters in a single turn seems pretty big. One of the biggest issues I see with that is that you're not taking advantage of the main strength of Pendulum Monsters, ie that they go to the Extra Deck instead of the Graveyard. Even if you try to XYZ with Pendulum Monsters, XYZ materials aren't on the field, so detaching a Pendulum Monster will just send it to the yard as usual. And if you run a bunch of non-Pendulum monsters to XYZ with, you're not getting much out of the Pendulum Summon.
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forbidden lesbian posted:The Manga of the time before the English Dub starts is freaking awesome and should be read by all. It's kind of fascinating, he blew up one guy and set another on fire. What ever happens to Yugi anyway. Like I saw a few episodes of GX on TV when it was airing, and it was vaguely implied he was still alive. But does the series ever touch on the fates of the original cast?
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