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Asimo posted:20% less marks or so, the optional is now 5 minutes, they fixed the close safe zone, and the hard failure condition is now three dead so you're reliant on pubbies not having shitboats. Oh loving hell.
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Ha, at this point what exactly am I upgrading all this crap for? All the queues are dead and I've always thought the ground and story missions are trash.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:26
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Just jumped in after a couple years of ignoring the game and wow, a lot has changed. The intro Federation missions are greatly improved amd everything seems to be a lot smoother. Ground combat has also seemed to have gotten more fun, which is a welcome shift as well. I think after I find my way around again I'll join SFD. Could be fun playing with other people.
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Cyberball 2072 posted:Ha, at this point what exactly am I upgrading all this crap for? All the queues are dead and I've always thought the ground and story missions are trash. That's the thing about STO's "proper" endgame. It's almost always been about improving your ship to run queues better to improve your ship to run queues better... Which is fine, so long as both ends of that symbiosis flow smoothly into each other. If the queues aren't fun, there's no motivation to run them, and thus no motivation to upgrade. If upgrading isn't fun / is too expensive, the "improved" queues are no longer fun, demotivating others to upgrade.
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Jan 23, 2015 12:19
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With the death of CCA there goes the last popular queue remaining. Bravo PWE, there is no longer an endgame 
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DancingShade posted:With the death of CCA there goes the last popular queue remaining. Ahem. There's still space-Barbie. 
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Ahem. There's still space-Barbie. And Xean. Never forget Xean.
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Just jumped in after a couple years of ignoring the game and wow, a lot has changed. The intro Federation missions are greatly improved amd everything seems to be a lot smoother. Ground combat has also seemed to have gotten more fun, which is a welcome shift as well. I think after I find my way around again I'll join SFD. Could be fun playing with other people.
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Jan 23, 2015 16:36
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Hey guys, I found the Emergency Party Hologram. "Please state the nature of the party emergency."
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I wonder if some dunglord at Cryptic was like "hmmm...all the queues are dead...except for CCA. It must be SO easy that no one bothers to play any other queues! Now that's fixed, everyone will go back to the others. Problem solved. " Not that CCA wasn't too easy, I usually just would park a raider in the general direction of a flank and just spam FAW 1k from the entity and maybe blow up once the entire time if I got unlucky with a spawning tholian ship, but Jesus Christ.
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Jan 23, 2015 16:50
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Berke Negri posted:I wonder if some dunglord at Cryptic was like "hmmm...all the queues are dead...except for CCA. It must be SO easy that no one bothers to play any other queues! Now that's fixed, everyone will go back to the others. Problem solved. A cryptic dev posted:This particular batch of updates has focused on increasing difficulty for queues that are being completed at a higher rate than expected and decreasing rewards for queues that have been over-rewarding as compared to the reward levels we have established across all PvE queues. 
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Jan 23, 2015 17:02
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I can't imagine what the meeting was like when they discussed their "goal" of a failure rate percentage for queues. I wonder if that's why that Hawk guy quit... and how many others thought about it.
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To be fair the rewards for BHE were pretty bad. Like, even though it is very easy, it'd still take like twenty minutes to complete with a good team and you'd only get like twenty marks. Edit: but this is why I figure they broke with previous mark quality upgrade progression and made Mk XIII and Mk XIV increase in dps at higher rates. Basically make standard content hard enough that the generally awful playerbase can't complete them so they shell out the dil for upgrading their gear. Of course all the queues are really easy but most people in this game are just bad. I mean, there's a logic to that. I don't know though why anyone at the meeting didn't point out "but what if everyone just quits." Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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g0del posted:They're not even trying to hide it anymore. From their explanation thread: I wouldn't especially mind Atmosphere Assault being 'worth' running(It's minorly interesting, and hey, something to use shuttles on!), but not as 'payment' for the other bits coming down.
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Jan 23, 2015 17:57
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Bloodly posted:I wouldn't especially mind Atmosphere Assault being 'worth' running(It's minorly interesting, and hey, something to use shuttles on!), but not as 'payment' for the other bits coming down.
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So before they nerf everything, what's the best source for nukara marks now? Wanting to pick up the shield from that rep.
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Valatar posted:So before they nerf everything, what's the best source for nukara marks now? Wanting to pick up the shield from that rep. Run CCE as much as you can before the next update. Also going to the Nukara adventure zone will get you marks in a short enough time by running the easy to medium difficulty missions.
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The thing that just gets me is I'm not even sure what the... goal of all the changes are. Make people run Delta content to improve metrics? Maybe, but then why is Borg Disconnected still an obnoxious shitpile to PUG? Do they want to normalize mark rewards? That's probably fine honestly, but it's also unrelated to big sweeping difficulty changes. Did they want to make queues take longer to reduce the overall reward versus time or encourage people to spend money on upgrades? If so, then why add the hard failure conditions? It's clearly not wanting difficult queue options since that's what the Elite queues are for, but they changed the Advanced queues too... It just literally makes no sense. I have no idea what PWE is even trying to do. It's like Lorak mentioned already; the endgame of STO was really fragile and depended a lot on people optimizing to reduce queue times rather than increase queue success rates, or being able to easily buy new ships and new equipment toys and throw them at content they already knew. But right now there's massive active discouragements to get new gear (upgrade costs) or run alts (specialization points), and strong passive discouragement from running queues (non-zero failure chance, reduced rewards). The whole game and its monetization scheme is falling apart and Cryptic has to be aware of it, but instead of making sweeping changes to fix or or even announcing an intent to they're just digging in deeper with every patch. It's insane. Burning_Monk posted:Run CCE as much as you can before the next update. Also going to the Nukara adventure zone will get you marks in a short enough time by running the easy to medium difficulty missions.
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Let me get an invite to the channel. Piscine Rockslab@checkmate667 Also what is the point of rarity in bridge officers? Deadmeat5150 fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 21:22
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Also what is the point of rarity in bridge officers?
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Removing cool down timers on queues would go far to encourage playing them more. At least on failures, currently if you gently caress up/have a lovely pug/someone intentionally forces a failure because cryptic can't design poo poo/etc you're looking at eating a poo poo sandwich for 25 minutes to an entire hour on some queues. Even for beating a queue is the timer doing much? Rewards are underwhelming as is, does it break the game to run BHE three times an hour instead of two?
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They can't remove the cooldown on failures, then people would just fail over and over and get more marks than our metrics demand!!  The best solution is the one they already had before DR: most queues had no failure conditions (and the ones that did were the gozer-era borg STFs), and the difficulty was either getting the optionals or getting geared up enough to run them quickly. But this apparently isn't an option due to PWE, I guess. But they could at least drastically boost spec XP from a successful queue...
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Has something like this upcoming anniversary giveaway event ever been done before? And if so, anything worth cheering about?
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HughGRect posted:Has something like this upcoming anniversary giveaway event ever been done before? And if so, anything worth cheering about? Oh man. HughGRect GAR-BAGE DICK! Excellent avatar, username combo. That worked out great for you. Yeah, sometimes they give out cool stuff. Sometimes, not so much.
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Yeah, the previous giveaways have been costumes, c-store items like hortas or tribbles or whatever, and a ship (usually a low-seller) on the last day. It's nice and there's no reason not to log in and claim whatever it is, but don't expect anything too exciting.
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Let me get an invite to the channel. You're in.
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quote:The whole game and its monetization scheme is falling apart and Cryptic has to be aware of it, but instead of making sweeping changes to fix or or even announcing an intent to they're just digging in deeper with every patch. I feel kinda bad for Cryptic. Not Perfect World, you understand, Cryptic. They struck out on their own after Atari screwed them over. Now Perfect World is turning the screws even worse. They take the majority of blame for issues and mistakes, and things from higher up tie their hands. Morale has to be in the crapper.
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At this point I think Cryptic is doing whatever they can to get enough poo poo metrics to tell PWE to gently caress off, the question is whether or not the game will last through that.
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Really wondering if it is even worth logging in to get the anniversary ship, if only because outside of the novelty a lot of these ships don't amount to much outside of pokemon collecting desires but really just finished up doing 25 or whatever days of running Q's Winter Challenge so another month long daily tedious task like that seems a tough sell. Honestly these really grindy seasonal events kind of burn me out as this same thing happened right after the last Risa though that wasn't without the added shitshow of DR and subsequent patches.
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The new ship(whatever it turns out being) is probably going to be the poster child for the Command spec and probably the only Command spec ship for a while. Of course, the Command spec is likely not going to be anywhere near as impressive as +20/30/40% Crit Chance and Crit Damage. It's like they released them in reverse order.
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Bloodly posted:The new ship(whatever it turns out being) is probably going to be the poster child for the Command spec and probably the only Command spec ship for a while. Of course, the Command spec is likely not going to be anywhere near as impressive as +20/30/40% Crit Chance and Crit Damage. It's like they released them in reverse order.
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I'm genuinely stumped how I'm supposed to do the intel spec and commander spec skill lines in any reasonable fashion.
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Berke Negri posted:I'm genuinely stumped how I'm supposed to do the intel spec and commander spec skill lines in any reasonable fashion. All you need is a computer newer than most pubbie's to figure it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU
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Berke Negri posted:I'm genuinely stumped how I'm supposed to do the intel spec and commander spec skill lines in any reasonable fashion. I'm stumped why you'd consider anything in this game reasonable.
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Bloodly posted:The new ship(whatever it turns out being) is probably going to be the poster child for the Command spec and probably the only Command spec ship for a while. Of course, the Command spec is likely not going to be anywhere near as impressive as +20/30/40% Crit Chance and Crit Damage. It's like they released them in reverse order. It's adorable that you don't think they're going to be doing another 9 pack.
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Lagomorphic posted:It's adorable that you don't think they're going to be doing another 9 pack. That's coming too.
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*grunts* I'm having a vision... its *hrrgh* becoming clearer now... I see *breathes deeply* three faction based command ship triple pack bundles for... *sweats* fifty dollars each! Or all 3 bundles of ship with a *breathes through nose* lovely costume I can't quite make out through the fog, *breathes deeply* available for one hundred and fifty dollars BEST VALUE. The vision has passed. You may exit the medicine lodge ensign. "gently caress off Chakotay."
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Ok what the hell is with lockboxes? I've had random people just give me several of them so I've tossed them on the Exchange for now. Should I just buy a master key or is there a list of what I can find in them and I can just buy that poo poo?
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Ok what the hell is with lockboxes? I've had random people just give me several of them so I've tossed them on the Exchange for now. Should I just buy a master key or is there a list of what I can find in them and I can just buy that poo poo? http://sto.gamepedia.com/Lock_Box Unless you're specifically looking to accumulate lobi you should just buy lock box rewards off the exchange. The main ship rewards are really expensive but itd literally be easier selling keys bought with zen than to hope on getting them in lock boxes Edit: the only upside to the R&D and delta rising changes is crafting mats sell really well. When I was playing pretty heavy a month ago just running ground elite queues netted like, 5 mil a day selling them Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jan 25, 2015 |
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