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All Else Failed posted:are there any games you guys can truly recommend to me that won't make me want to pee on your head after an hour? This is probably going to be just me posting my favorite jRPGs that I've already posted in the thread a million times, heh. Digital Devil Saga duology and SMT: Nocturne, for starters. Fairly hard games but unique settings/aesthetics and great music. I'd also say The World Ends With You because it's fantastic, but considering its control scheme, it may be annoying to play on emulator using a mouse. Also try Baten Kaitos, if you can emulate Gamecube. Gorgeous game, interesting story, very quirky mechanics. e: just reread and I see you mentioned Shadow Hearts 
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All Else Failed posted:I just read through like the last 50 pages of this thread because it was genuinely interesting and friendly chat, and now I'm wondering if the thread can help me. Though I suspect you can't -- not because of you, because I don't think there's really anything to help me with.  After skimming through that I think what you really need is not a jrpg but therapy
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But yeah if you want a jrpg you could do far far worse than giving Chrono Trigger another spin, it's probably one of the most bullshit free and constantly enjoyable jrpgs ever made But seriously a videogame isn't going to fix the cause of that incredibly depressing post seek therapy
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That made me think a bit, but I find myself appreciating the best of the worst far more than the worst of the best. Does that make any sense? Like, I'd rather come in with zero or negative expectations and find something barely mediocre than coming in with high expectations and find something that's just OK.
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Jan 26, 2015 12:09
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You can't grind in Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. It does expect you to fail on your first run, though.
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SelenicMartian posted:You can't grind in Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. It does expect you to fail on your first run, though. Man, that game... I could never really grasp it, all it did was push me back to replaying the old ones
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Is the PSP version of Tales of Eternia worth getting? Yes. mycot posted:What's so bad about the PS2 version of Grandia II? Does it have horrible load times between every screen or something like that? Behold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2mGqYqXxw&t=275s I wish I had something to compare it to beyond this blurry rear end video but you can see the difference in frame rate. What is essentially a 2 minute cutscene in the Dreamcast version is a 3 minute cutscene in the PS2 version! The PS2 version is fine in the beginning and okay in most dungeons (where you'll spend about 60% of the game anyway) but practically every village from 1/3 on in is painfully slow. The largest city in the game acts as a sort of center point for the final few story missions and its absolutely maddening navigating it. I can't believe this passed any kind of play test, it's not like the PS2 was incapable of running Dreamcast ports, Dead or Alive 2 was a launch game and ran at 60fps. This port is flat out lazy. e: If you haven't played Grandia 2 and your only option is the PS2 then try to survive this scene and you should be good for the entire game. SpitztheGreat posted:Grandia II is dark, and it's awesome. 15 year old me totally dug the dark turn the game takes about halfway through, and the game just keeps building upon that until the end. If there is one thing that playing Lunar: SSS really showed me it was just how little patience I have for lighthearted stories. Personally, if I'm spending 30+ hours on a game I want it to have some kick. I forget the line exactly, but Ryudo in Grandia II makes fun of the child champion constantly by calling him "Bubblegum and lollipops", basically a "gently caress you" moment to his notion of childhood adventure. We are polar opposites, Dragon Quest 5 is the extent of my "dark subject matter" in anime games. It's strange, I get really upset in any JRPG where the thinly veiled Christian religion is actually the badguy all along but totally didn't mind when they did the same thing in Final Fantasy Tactics. al-azad fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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Jan 26, 2015 13:32
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Is the PSP version of Tales of Eternia worth getting?
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Endorph posted:It's the same exact game, no bonus features, but it's a good port so sure. Widescreen. But otherwise yeah.
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Jan 26, 2015 14:57
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Is the PSP version of Tales of Eternia worth getting? No, because then you have to play roulette with whether or not you get a glitched copy. The first print run of the Euro version of the game was literally unbeatable due to a bug.
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Gamma Nerd posted:This is probably going to be just me posting my favorite jRPGs that I've already posted in the thread a million times, heh. Digital Devil Saga duology and SMT: Nocturne, for starters. Fairly hard games but unique settings/aesthetics and great music. I'd also say The World Ends With You because it's fantastic, but considering its control scheme, it may be annoying to play on emulator using a mouse. DDS and Nocturne are the worst recommendations for someone looking for something non-grindy. And clearly in need of therapy. Phantasium posted:No, because then you have to play roulette with whether or not you get a glitched copy. Already found a reliable e-Bay seller advertising the fixed version.
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Jan 26, 2015 15:33
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Already found a reliable e-Bay seller advertising the fixed version. That's what I thought until I bought one from eBay and got hosed.
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Phantasium posted:That's what I thought until I bought one from eBay and got hosed. It's a seller with multiple copies available and a full store of games for multiple consoles, not a random guy  .
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Jan 26, 2015 15:37
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's a seller with multiple copies available and a full store of games for multiple consoles, not a random guy Just a friendly warning, is all. I wasn't trying to rag on you for it, just lamenting that I had to deal with that crap in the first place because it was a great port until I got to Volt (60 fps!).
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If the included firmware update on the UMD is 2.5 it's the "fixed" version. If you're unsure then there's a save file on GameFAQs that has a save before the bugged puzzle and a save after the bugged puzzle if you have no way of continuing. If you have hacked firmware (and if you own a PSP you really should) it's probably best to get a ripped iso of the fixed version. I don't think anyone would hate you for downloading an iso if you own the broken copy.
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Gamma Nerd posted:This is probably going to be just me posting my favorite jRPGs that I've already posted in the thread a million times, heh. Digital Devil Saga duology and SMT: Nocturne, for starters. Fairly hard games but unique settings/aesthetics and great music. I'd also say The World Ends With You because it's fantastic, but considering its control scheme, it may be annoying to play on emulator using a mouse. TWEWY is fantastic and if the OP has Android it should work well. I'd also say with iOS but Square didn't bother to fix compatibility with iOS 8 for crapload of their games including this one so I recommend avoiding Square games on the platform (I basically stopped buying). Of course they also have ton of issues with Android 5.x but it seems better then with iOS 8. How about Persona 4? It's pretty interesting and can be emulated. I'd also recommend going forward with DQVIII, it's a great game and OP should be able to get past the control scheme, it's worth it. What about PC games? Shadowrun Dragonfall is fantastic. There is always Skyrim/Fallout/Deus Ex to try out. Dragon Age Origins is pretty cool (not a fan of DA:I after i played it for a while). Mass Effect 1 is neat. Divinity OS is really good game (more combat then story but it's a great thing). Valkyrie Chronicles and Trails in the Sky are great. Then there are some cool dungeon crawlers like MMX and Grim Dawn. You pretty much don't have to grind in any of these (well, maybe MMX/Grim Dawn).
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Neddy Seagoon posted:DDS and Nocturne are the worst recommendations for someone looking for something non-grindy. Eh... you kind of don't have to grind in Nocturne if you know what you are doing and use all the tricks. However, I agree that it's probably not the best recommendation for the OP. Oh, forgot Nier, great story, awesome sound track, not much grinding, unfortunately clunky controls though.
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Phantasium posted:No, because then you have to play roulette with whether or not you get a glitched copy. I'm really curious about this because I could never find any actual proof that two different versions of the English PSP Eternia exist. The only dumped revision is this one (note: this site has just release information, no actual  ), which is identical with my copy where I did not run into any crash at Volt. So either the broken revision never got dumped -- which is possible, I suppose, but would really surprise me -- or the crash is caused by something else.
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I've actually never heard of the crash/freeze/whatever it is making it unbeatable and recently got a copy of it on the cheap, where does it trigger? edit: I've played the game long ago on the PSX so spoilers are not an issue, though you can put them in spoiler tags if desired - I can just read them. Prism fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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The second dungeon in bravely default beat the poo poo out of me Is grinding a thing in this
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Prism posted:I've actually never heard of the crash/freeze/whatever it is making it unbeatable and recently got a copy of it on the cheap, where does it trigger? You can tell if your version has the bug or not based on what the included firmware install is. If it's 2.5, you're safe. If it's lower, it has the glitch.
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ZenVulgarity posted:The second dungeon in bravely default beat the poo poo out of me
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Prism posted:edit: I've played the game long ago on the PSX so spoilers are not an issue, though you can put them in spoiler tags if desired - I can just read them. After you fight Volt there's a slot machine game thing that you have to do to continue on with the game. Using it instantly hardlocks the game. The only way around it is to get somebody to play through the slot thing and save after the ensuing deluge of cutscenes on a non-broken copy.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You can tell if your version has the bug or not based on what the included firmware install is. If it's 2.5, you're safe. If it's lower, it has the glitch. I don't remember what the included firmware install is since I have custom firmware. Phantasium posted:After you fight Volt there's a slot machine game thing that you have to do to continue on with the game. Using it instantly hardlocks the game. The only way around it is to get somebody to play through the slot thing and save after the ensuing deluge of cutscenes on a non-broken copy. But I got further than this, so I guess I'm safe. Thanks!
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Prism posted:I've actually never heard of the crash/freeze/whatever it is making it unbeatable and recently got a copy of it on the cheap, where does it trigger? After beating Volt you have to do a puzzle to continue the game. The game freezes before you can do this puzzle. As far as I'm aware Ubisoft never officially acknowledged it but many people have experienced it and Ubisoft's support team sent individual messages stating that the issue was firmware related. ZenVulgarity posted:The second dungeon in bravely default beat the poo poo out of me Not at all. The game has weird difficulty spikes but if you're having trouble just turn the difficulty down until you're comfortable. Alternatively make friends with someone high level and you can assign their unlocked skills to a character. Seems like cheating but Bravely Default is a game that challenges you to break it. If you don't want to cheese the game then upgrade the armor shop (I think it's this) until 4 or 5 when you unlock the blessed shield. Using it casts cura which is a blessing early game.
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Prism posted:I don't remember what the included firmware install is since I have custom firmware. Some PSP games have a second UMD icon below the game-launching one with a Firmware version update. That's what you're checking.
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All Else Failed posted:I just read through like the last 50 pages of this thread because it was genuinely interesting and friendly chat, and now I'm wondering if the thread can help me. Though I suspect you can't -- not because of you, because I don't think there's really anything to help me with. From that, all I see that you want is something unique and good, and not open world or grindy. I'll repeat myself a few pages ago and say Nier. Not only does it have in my and a lot of people's opinions the best soundtrack in games, it also has a great story, great voice acting, and a lot of humor. I found it very unique as far as RPGs go in that you're a middle aged ugly dad out to find a cure for your sick daughter rather than being a teenager on an adventure. Gameplay is fast and easy, no grind necessary. If you play it, just don't do any sidequests unless you want to do them. I like Grandia 1 more than 2. 2 being darker (yet still over the top cheesy) made it feel more like a Saturday Morning Cartoon meant for preteens, whereas 1 being lighthearted made it more cute and fun like a Disney film that could be enjoyed by all ages.
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All Else Failed posted:I just read through like the last 50 pages of this thread because it was genuinely interesting and friendly chat, and now I'm wondering if the thread can help me. Though I suspect you can't -- not because of you, because I don't think there's really anything to help me with. Suikoden 2
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corn in the bible posted:Suikoden 2 The answer is always Suikoden 2, it's an all time great jrpg. e: honestly if you want to play Suiko2 you're best off if you emulate it and use the bugfix patch. The psx/psn version is pretty fuckin' sloppy, to the point where multiple pieces of music never play in game. Million Ghosts fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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It's also anti-grinding. Once your character is at the right level, EXP gained drops off a cliff, and any under leveled character gets a TON of EXP. it's a pretty easy game that is even more easily broken if you sharpen your party's weapons further than the game expects by going to towns before you're supposed to.
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This has probably been brought up about ten times before, but I just bought Valkyria Chronicles on sale. And, whoa, is the tone all over the place. You can't simultaneously try to go for the horrors of war angle while also having lighthearted banter between the characters, it don't work! In the first ten minutes of the game Welken kills three men (for presumably the first time in his life) and then immediately makes nice small talk with a girl. Later he mentions it in passing to his nanny whose reaction can be summed up as "Oh that's nice dear". But then, afterwards the town is taken over and they jerk a few tears over how war is just people killing people. Oh, and apparently one of my shocktroopers is literally 12 years old. Also, Vyse and Aika are in this game  Do they ever do anything besides exist?I've read some advice posts on this before buying it, but was the general gist that you have to scoutrush for A-ranks, but you shouldn't care about ranks and instead do skirmishes if funds run low?
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All of the grunt units that's aren't part of the "main" team just get a personality quirk, a class, and maybe an accent if you're lucky. That said, Vyse and Aika are pretty good grunts and I think both have an affinity with Rosie, so you can use those three to mow down enemies for the few missions where scout rush isn't a viable solution. Also, just scout rush, since Alicia eventually gets things that allows her to solo maps with some orders, and I believe the game has some decent bonuses for getting A ranks.
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Don't scout rush, take your time because money is plentiful and at worst you repeat a skirmish mission or two. Scout rushing takes the whole point of the combat system away.
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Amppelix posted:This has probably been brought up about ten times before, but I just bought Valkyria Chronicles on sale. And, whoa, is the tone all over the place. You can't simultaneously try to go for the horrors of war angle while also having lighthearted banter between the characters, it don't work! "luca just massacred an entire city as part of a ritual!! LETS POSE AS COLLEGE STUDENTS!" *flik tugs collar, hanna barbera sounds*
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A majority of games from Japan have the same type of dissonance, probably because of a cultural thing.
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It's kind of a Japanese thing, really. Final Fantasy VIII involves children raised in military academies as magic slinging assassins. You just got done trying to kill a witch and now you have to hurry back to school for the big dance where your friends are trying to set you up with a girl you don't like and look there's a girly mag someone happened to leave on the ground lol. We live in a world where Hetalia is a thing. e: It's probably because there's a wider range in the age of the target audience in Japan. I guess the American equivalent would be how movies used to be either G/PG or R/X; either suitable for basically everyone or suited only for adults. Which is funny because the CERO system goes from all ages > 12+ > 15+ > 17+ > 18+ but CERO B (12+) encompasses practically everything except alcohol and gambling. Although I wonder what Japan's definition of alcohol and gambling are because the Dragon Quest series has always been all ages. al-azad fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jan 26, 2015 |
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it's a well known historical fact that nobody ever made jokes between 1939-1945
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It isn't even just Japanese. Bioware and Obsidian games both are 'super serious setting, tons of wacky cartoon characters." I mean Dragon Age: Inquisition is about a horrific civil war and near-apocalypse with tons of people dying. It's also got Sera.
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Tae posted:Don't scout rush, take your time because money is plentiful and at worst you repeat a skirmish mission or two. Scout rushing takes the whole point of the combat system away. But if you don't scout rush you'll inevitably get a lower ranking, so you are actively rewarded for ignoring the fun combat system. If you try to have fun, the game will probably just kill you. Valkyria Chronicles has Problems.
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Cake Attack posted:it's a well known historical fact that nobody ever made jokes between 1939-1945 Russian humor is really dark.
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