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Captain_Maclaine posted:Look, we all agree that global warming is the existential crisis of our time, but anything that results in the destruction of Orange County can't be all bad. As someone who lives in the Baldwin hills area, I see no downside to my new island beachfront property.
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D.N. Nation posted:Please tell the class what exactly George Soros did, Glenn.
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Yeah, I'll take grotesque over boring any day of the week.
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D.N. Nation posted:It's a cute disconnect the right has with American Sniper. On the one hand, If You Don't Like This Movie You Hate America, as if it were still 2004 or something. On the other, the White House is EEEEEEEEVIL I HATE GOVERNMENT ALMOST 50% OF AMERICANS SUCK. For people who demand adherence to their limited view of patriotism, they sure don't like America/Americans that much. There's another disconnect. American Sniper is blatantly Moby Dick and they're cheering on Ahab as his obsession takes hold of his life and consumes him. Like seriously the main character reduces himself to a weapon to fight a war that's only chewing up the Americans his motivation is to protect and doesn't have any impact on American life, and he only becomes human again when he turns his efforts to protecting the people he swore to protect by helping them through the damage the war did to them, undoing the damage he suffered in turn. Like it's a pretty blatant thematic arc that people are missing to get all rah rah about Are Troops and ignoring the whole bit about our actual flesh and blood soldiers used to fight a war and left stranded and broken in a country that doesn't acknowledge them as humans but as something else. I guess what I'm saying is A Good Movie. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Looks like somebody has a firm understanding of the global oil trade  Also of how oil derricks work (why is that cable not wrapping around the end? why is the linkage on the left attached a foot from the end, wasting a very expensive foot of possible leverage?) e: seriously, as someone who to some extent works in energy policy, it kills me how much of the rhetoric about oil drilling has NO grounding in reality alnilam fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:we're you not around FOR THIS EXACT DISCUSSION NOT EVEN A MONTH AGO zoux? I just said I didn't like the art style. I'm not required to like the art style.
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zoux posted:I just said zoux posted:Also isn't there a UK politoon thread maybe they should all go there.
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Well since you brought it up, maybe that's not such a bad idea.
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zoux posted:I just said I didn't like the art style. I'm not required to like the art style. then ignore them and move on retard
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Not saying that global warming isn't a threat, but isn't a 260' rise basically the ultra ultra so many things have to go wrong worst case scenario? I thought that kind of change was nearly impossible. Am I wrong?
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I like that the UK toons are posted here, even if I sometimes (when I have a lot to catch up on) scroll past them.
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Hey can we have a cartoons thread without cartoons? That'd be great. We can spend the entire time pontificating about Lafuff's moral character without linking his art.
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zoux posted:Well since you brought it up, maybe that's not such a bad idea. Make an 'all politoons except those british ones' thread and stop following this one, problem solved.
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forbidden lesbian posted:then ignore them and move on retard Good idea, I will forbear on my critique of political cartoons, in this, the thread for exactly that.
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Cpt.Americant posted:Not saying that global warming isn't a threat, but isn't a 260' rise basically the ultra ultra so many things have to go wrong worst case scenario? I thought that kind of change was nearly impossible. Am I wrong? Basically 260' is what happens if ALL the polar ice melts. So we'd have to lose most but not all of the world's coastal cities and then keep doing what we're doing without any kind of improvement for another few decades afterward.
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zoux posted:Good idea, I will forbear on my critique of political cartoons, in this, the thread for exactly that. thank you
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Cpt.Americant posted:Not saying that global warming isn't a threat, but isn't a 260' rise basically the ultra ultra so many things have to go wrong worst case scenario? I thought that kind of change was nearly impossible. Am I wrong? We don't know yet. There's all sorts of crazy poo poo going on now, but due to the now inevitable collapse of a sizable chunk of Antarctica we are guaranteed a minimum of 20 feet over the next 200 years. And that's the most optimistic model.
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xthetenth posted:There's another disconnect. American Sniper is blatantly Moby Dick and they're cheering on Ahab as his obsession takes hold of his life and consumes him. Like seriously the main character reduces himself to a weapon to fight a war that's only chewing up the Americans his motivation is to protect and doesn't have any impact on American life, and he only becomes human again when he turns his efforts to protecting the people he swore to protect by helping them through the damage the war did to them, undoing the damage he suffered in turn. Like it's a pretty blatant thematic arc that people are missing to get all rah rah about Are Troops and ignoring the whole bit about our actual flesh and blood soldiers used to fight a war and left stranded and broken in a country that doesn't acknowledge them as humans but as something else. I actually can't bring myself to watch it because A) apparently the guy who it is based on was a massive bigot and B) the ironic cheering for the murder of Muslims that has occured in its wake. Maybe if the enemy in this was another empire state (or a whale), instead of people of a general ethnicity that has had an explicit torture program directed at it in the last decade, maybe the dehumanization of the enemy could be overlooked, but right now it just feels like it will just feed the hate machine, regardless of Eastwood's intent. zoux posted:Good idea, I will forbear on my critique of political cartoons, in this, the thread for exactly that. Critique away, just don't start poo poo about 'stop posting [x]' because we already settled that and no, we aren't going to stop so shut up feel free to call them ugly, they are Ron Paul Atreides fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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DarklyDreaming posted:Basically 260' is what happens if ALL the polar ice melts. So we'd have to lose most but not all of the world's coastal cities and then keep doing what we're doing without any kind of improvement for another few decades afterward. A bit of a tangent, but a large portion(nearly half iirc) of ocean level rise is due to thermal expansion of the oceans water, not counting any phase transitions from polar ice.
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zoux posted:Good idea, I will forbear on my critique of political cartoons, in this, the thread for exactly that. I'm not saying you should stop posting, but surely you can see why people find it a banal and toothless criticism to say 'they're grotesque' when that's kind of what they're going for? It smacks of a wilful blandness in the art you consume.
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colonel_korn posted:
 That was a US airstrike on ISIL-controlled Tel Shaer hill back on October. Fast forward to the present:  US airstrikes have allowed the Kurds to retake Kobani completely, and ISIL has lost nearly 1100 fighters in Kobani with absolutely nothing to show for it. Oddly, nobody has done a cartoon about the Kurdish liberation of Kobani; I can understand that none of the usual shills want to admit that Obama's strategy to "degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL" is actually working, but I would have expected Latuff to weigh in.  So here, have a Kurdish political cartoon to fix that:  (Handle is the Kurdish flag.)
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"Americans for Limited Government" *draws cartoon lamenting American government isn't engaged in EVEN MOAR WARS abroad* Would they be happy if the US Government made a formal declaration of war, including all the special powers that go with it, such as instituting draft, raising taxes and commandeering private property for the war effort, and so on?
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J_RBG posted:I'm not saying you should stop posting, but surely you can see why people find it a banal and toothless criticism to say 'they're grotesque' when that's kind of what they're going for? It smacks of a wilful blandness in the art you consume. So like if I was at a GWAR concert (or more accurately GWAR showed up at a different concert I was at) and started spraying fake blood and cum on the audience and I was like hmmmm I don't care for this style, your response is "that's what they're going for bud". I get that, I don't like it and I said as much. It's fine that people like it, I guess if I hadn't off handedly mused "Isn't there a thread for those cartoons" then I wouldn't be in the metaphorical stocks. It's fine though I'll avenge myself on the next person to say that a cartoon would work better with fewer words 
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Hey, could someone point me to where to find the cartoon where some lady is telling a kid lying on the ground "you're gonna have to get the hell out of my country" and holding a bible? I can't find anything using terms like that on Google.
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Read about this in the ME thread and all I can think is  gently caress yeah go KurdsThey are pretty much the only good guys over there (FSA are pretty good but have some factions that are problematic)
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:I actually can't bring myself to watch it because A) apparently the guy who it is based on was a massive bigot and B) the ironic cheering for the murder of Muslims that has occured in its wake. I'm actually pretty sure it's A Good Movie rather than a good movie. There's other seriously problematic aspects (I mean really. The only two times civilians come up it's for them to get killed by insurgents or a kid who plays with an RPG and almost gets killed by Ahab for angst points. Literally everybody else is fighting against the Americans.) But the people whose view those aspects show are the people who treat your point B as a premise, not even as a conclusion, and feed it into the movie and get out a reinforcement of their belief because they're wallowing in a fog of cognitive dissonance. What it is when viewed in context is getting dragged into an obsessive, myopic view of an ugly war that's chewing other people up as the main character gives up his humanity to prosecute it more effectively, and he doesn't even notice the people it's affecting except as how it relates to him killing. And yeah the dude sucked so massively that SEALs sided with Jesse Ventura over him. Re: Brittoons, this is like going to a Rammstein concert with GWAR as the opening act and getting mad at fake bodily fluids. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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carry on then posted:Hey, could someone point me to where to find the cartoon where some lady is telling a kid lying on the ground "you're gonna have to get the hell out of my country" and holding a bible? I can't find anything using terms like that on Google. I think it's in the Gay Abortions OP.
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Cat Mattress posted:Would they be happy if the US Government made a formal declaration of war, including all the special powers that go with it, such as instituting draft, raising taxes and commandeering private property for the war effort, and so on?
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joeburz posted:A bit of a tangent, but a large portion(nearly half iirc) of ocean level rise is due to thermal expansion of the oceans water, not counting any phase transitions from polar ice. I was really surprised when I read this, as water expands very little with temperature in the range of temps you'd see on earth. But I just had some fun doing back-of-the-envelope calculations, and holy crap, a tiny change makes a big difference when you consider how deep the oceans are!
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carry on then posted:Hey, could someone point me to where to find the cartoon where some lady is telling a kid lying on the ground "you're gonna have to get the hell out of my country" and holding a bible? I can't find anything using terms like that on Google. Darrin Bell, "The Bad Samaritan" http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2014/07/at_the_border_meet_the_america.html
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zoux posted:Good idea, I will forbear on my critique of political cartoons, in this, the thread for exactly that. Stop being an idiot over this, jesus christ.
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alnilam posted:I was really surprised when I read this, as water expands very little with temperature in the range of temps you'd see on earth. But I just had some fun doing back-of-the-envelope calculations, and holy crap, a tiny change makes a big difference when you consider how deep the oceans are! Yeah it's a tiny change per unit but we got a lot of units to do it with.
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colonel_korn posted:Darrin Bell, "The Bad Samaritan" http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2014/07/at_the_border_meet_the_america.html Hahaha those comments 
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Rorus Raz posted:Also, where the gently caress are my If global warming why snow cartoons This should hold you over http://ifglobalwarmingisrealwhyisitcold.tumblr.com/ Also I hear the hot topic right now is about NYC, and it's "why did the city cry wolf and go crazy with preparations, we barely got any snow! De Blasioooo "You know, because snow is so easy to predict and the consequences for being unprepared are minor and 
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DarklyDreaming posted:Basically 260' is what happens if ALL the polar ice melts. So we'd have to lose most but not all of the world's coastal cities and then keep doing what we're doing without any kind of improvement for another few decades afterward. Let's face it. Do you really think this isn't possible?
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colonel_korn posted:Darrin Bell, "The Bad Samaritan" http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2014/07/at_the_border_meet_the_america.html Yep that's it. Thanks!
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TheDarkFlame posted:Let's face it. Do you really think this isn't possible? I sincerely hope that the complete doomsday scenario forecast by almost all of the worlds climatologists resulting the death of billions is overstated and doesn't happen, yes.
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xthetenth posted:I'm actually pretty sure it's A Good Movie rather than a good movie. There's other seriously problematic aspects (I mean really. The only two times civilians come up it's for them to get killed by insurgents or a kid who plays with an RPG and almost gets killed by Ahab for angst points. Literally everybody else is fighting against the Americans.) But the people whose view those aspects show are the people who treat your point B as a premise, not even as a conclusion, and feed it into the movie and get out a reinforcement of their belief because they're wallowing in a fog of cognitive dissonance. What it is when viewed in context is getting dragged into an obsessive, myopic view of an ugly war that's chewing other people up as the main character gives up his humanity to prosecute it more effectively, and he doesn't even notice the people it's affecting except as how it relates to him killing. oh so you meant it was Mobi Dick only the moral lesson isn't 'vengeance against an animal is pointless', it's 'Kill that motherfucking Whale'
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