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El Gallinero Gros posted:I've heard some people say that having a guy like Russo around is fine because occasionally he'll have a good idea, but I think that applies to Cornette more. Don't give him any actual power, just solicit his opinion. Cornette's out of touch, but he's more in touch with what I want as a fan that Vince McMahon is. He's way out of touch, doesn't watch WWE, and still came up with a better idea in 20 minutes than the team of writers they pay to come up with this stuff on principle by virtue of at least not actively sabotaging the product.
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Gaz-L posted:...I just got to him laying out the post-Rumble Raw angle and it's loving BRILLIANT: Have Bryan be Reigns' second/manager going into Mania. Bryan's reasoning being he needs to train more to get back to being the Best In The World, and Reigns' that he needs someone to counter Heyman and help him prepare for Lesnar, a type of match he's never had. You get Bryan involved in the main event, you give Roman the rub, you cover for his weakness on the mic, and you can have Heyman and Bryan carry the promos. And it sets up either a face/face title match, or either guy can turn to go with Heyman down the line. lol dude this would just make people chant for him more..
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yea ok posted:lol dude this would just make people chant for him more.. ...so you then go with Reigns turning to go with Heyman, and keep building to the title match that's already being built to between Bryan and Reigns? As opposed to Reigns vs Rollins followed by.... um... Kane? Because they have no heels.
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Would that leave Bryan with no match at all at mania if he's just playing manager? I don't think that would really be better, I like Bryan most when he's actually wrestling.
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Jan 29, 2015 22:03
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triplexpac posted:Oh yeah, Dave attributing the rise in Network subs to people hearing The Rock was at the Rumble and subscribing to see that made me laugh. Meltzer just loves Rock so much. Man's gotta protect his
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Blasmeister posted:Would that leave Bryan with no match at all at mania if he's just playing manager? I don't think that would really be better, I like Bryan most when he's actually wrestling. It would but, everywhere he goes he says "I'm still rehabbing and gaining my strength back. Hopefully I'll be cleared to return soon." (and hopefully the truth doesn't leak) This way the fans don't revolt because as far as they know Bryan isn't medically cleared to return.
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I think having Bryan seconding Reigns is a pretty bad idea but it's an infinitely better idea than what they're actually doing
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The problem with Cornette's plan, or anyones plan regarding Daniel really, is that any of them would require WWE to care about Daniel Bryan's booking. If they did care, they would have booked him to win the Rumble. I feel like there's no middle ground here when it comes to Vince.
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anything is better than "nepotism is cool I'm related to the rock the brass believes in me please love me "
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:anything is better than "nepotism is cool I'm related to the rock the brass believes in me please love me " I thought they were related as well, but according to Dave on Jericho's podcast yesterday, it turns out they're not related at all.
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Blasmeister posted:Would that leave Bryan with no match at all at mania if he's just playing manager? I don't think that would really be better, I like Bryan most when he's actually wrestling. Bryan isn't at 100%. He needs time to heal up. I'd much rather him get a WM payday, do a signature spot on Heyman, maybe Lesnar, pop the crowd and not be ground into mush on a house show circuit.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I've heard some people say that having a guy like Russo around is fine because occasionally he'll have a good idea, but I think that applies to Cornette more. Don't give him any actual power, just solicit his opinion. Cornette's out of touch, but he's more in touch with what I want as a fan that Vince McMahon is. I'm gonna have to disagree with you and that Cornette has pretty consistent good ideas when it comes to wrestling and is pretty much the anti-Russo. Having said that, it would take a lot of effort to book Bryan Danielson and the Rumble worse than how WWE did it. Eleanor Pwnsevelt fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Eleanor Pwnsevelt posted:I'm gonna have to disagree with you and that Cornette has pretty consistent good ideas when it comes to wrestling and is pretty much the anti-Russo. Having said that, it would take a lot of effort to book Bryan Danielson and the Rumble worse than how WWE did it. Yeah but when he gets complete power he books like he booked in ROH and you end up with Mike Mondo getting a big push and the Briscoes using ether rags on WGTT.
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I'm sure there were at least 20 Davey Richards/Eddie Edwards/Roderick Strong 3-way main events while Cornette was booking, that's what it felt like anyway.
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Gaz-L posted:...I just got to him laying out the post-Rumble Raw angle and it's loving BRILLIANT: Have Bryan be Reigns' second/manager going into Mania. Bryan's reasoning being he needs to train more to get back to being the Best In The World, and Reigns' that he needs someone to counter Heyman and help him prepare for Lesnar, a type of match he's never had. You get Bryan involved in the main event, you give Roman the rub, you cover for his weakness on the mic, and you can have Heyman and Bryan carry the promos. And it sets up either a face/face title match, or either guy can turn to go with Heyman down the line. this would not work at all and would backfire spectacularly so I hope they do it
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Spermgod posted:fantasy booking is awful
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Spermgod posted:fantasy booking is awful Part of the fun of wrestling is figuring out what might happen next, because it creates some kind of emotion if/when those expectations are met or subverted. That said, that's the very same reason why fantasy booking is almost as fun to make of as real booking to me: because it throws that dynamic out the window by asserting that something *should* be happening, instead of having fun watching everything unfold.
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Ghostpilot posted:I thought they were related as well, but according to Dave on Jericho's podcast yesterday, it turns out they're not related at all. The Wild Samoans consider Peter Maivia their uncle despite the lack of a blood relation. It's pretty common in Polynesian cultures to have someone who is your "uncle" without any relation to you, and you treat them as family. I have no doubt that the Rock refers to Reigns and the Usos as his cousins.
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I liked Cornette's thing, it's old school, and relies on you not knowing that Bryan is fit but it's simple and makes sense and is infinitely better than what they have now.
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the problem is that the crowd will go bonkers for bryan and not reigns and will probably boo the situation just like they did with The Rock. They don't want someone to endorse Roman Reigns, they just don't want Roman Reigns at all.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:The Wild Samoans consider Peter Maivia their uncle despite the lack of a blood relation. It's pretty common in Polynesian cultures to have someone who is your "uncle" without any relation to you, and you treat them as family. I have no doubt that the Rock refers to Reigns and the Usos as his cousins. They do, they are all considered family.
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oatgan posted:the problem is that the crowd will go bonkers for bryan and not reigns and will probably boo the situation just like they did with The Rock. They don't want someone to endorse Roman Reigns, they just don't want Roman Reigns at all. Yeah... that's the point. If they continue to boo Reigns then he turns on Bryan (and fans) and goes with Heyman. Now Roman has a someone to do his interviews, and Daniel Bryan is back chasing the title. People could buy Roman being a strong sellout heel champion with Heyman pulling the strings. It's a win/win maniacripper fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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Jan 30, 2015 02:24
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Yeah, it'd almost literally be them redoing Rock vs Foley.
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SEAN GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK IT'S ALWAYS FUN WHEN YOU'RE ON Last time he was on he talked about trying to kill himself. Now no denying it was one of the most amazing interviews, but it wasn't "fun."
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Spermgod posted:fantasy booking is awful reality booking is somehow worse
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Charles Gnarwin posted:The Wild Samoans consider Peter Maivia their uncle despite the lack of a blood relation. It's pretty common in Polynesian cultures to have someone who is your "uncle" without any relation to you, and you treat them as family. I have no doubt that the Rock refers to Reigns and the Usos as his cousins.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:anything is better than "nepotism is cool I'm related to the rock the brass believes in me please love me " Roman is IRL the Rollins character, but supposed to be likable
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Shameful opinion from Dave during the X-Pac show. "I'd seen [FLAPJACK NORTON] in the AWA and he never did anything for me."
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Man everything Austin says about Reigns is spot on and he should really take it to heart. Can't imagine he'll be getting that level of criticism from anyone else in WWE when they all know what way the wind is blowing and are probably trying not to get in the chosen one's bad books.
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I liked Jericho's chat with Meltzer about the Rumble. Jericho was right, the worst crime was that it was just lazy and didn't make anyone look strong. It's not even that Reigns wins, just that they do it in the most flaccid way. Also, while both mention the boos at the end, neither seems to mention that Reigns is booed on his entrance. I know the popular idea is that they turned on him because Bryan got thrown out, but when your guy enters to boos that's a little more troubling.
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Meltzer abandons four sentences halfway through for every one he finishes. How do you guys listen to him talk so much?
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DannoMack posted:Meltzer abandons four sentences halfway before finishing one how do you guys listen to him talk so much? Y'know, you just get used to it
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triplexpac posted:Y'know, you just get used to it It is what it is.
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people w/ observer, hehu informed me last night of a matt riddle update, apparently xpac and meltzer are wowed by how he's coming along as a pro-wrassler can anyone either tell me what was said or copy/paste it depending on if it was text or audio or w/e
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DrVenkman posted:I liked Jericho's chat with Meltzer about the Rumble. Jericho was right, the worst crime was that it was just lazy and didn't make anyone look strong. It's not even that Reigns wins, just that they do it in the most flaccid way. his entrance was booed because Bryan had already been eliminated and thus they knew Reigns was winning.
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Bhester posted:his entrance was booed because Bryan had already been eliminated and thus they knew Reigns was winning. they didn't even wait for the entrance really, a cacophony of boos filled the place as soon as Reigns showed up on the lead-in promo at the very top of the PPV
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