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Anne Whateley posted:Yeah, you can't have sex with someone who can't give informed consent. Not just "this feels good" but informed consent. They've set up that it's ~true love~, but in reality, people with Down's are super vulnerable to sexual abuse. Glee has also accidentally made clear that it's not a relationship of equals, and that he likes her because she cannot function normally in society. Sounds like a fantastic basis for a relationship. Genuine question: should people with Down Syndrome not ever be allowed to date then? By your logic they can't even date other people with Down's, because "children" can't consent to relations with other children either. Of all the poo poo on Glee I can't believe this is the one people are now harping on
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I know, but they put in that scene where he talked about how when they want, they're totes gonna have sex  Who cares if people with Down's date. As a society we obviously have different standards of informed consent for drinking a milkshake vs. loving. I'm not just bullshitting about their vulnerability. "More than 90% of people with intellectual disabilities will experience some form of sexual abuse." 68% of girls will be sexually abused before 18. Not only can the majority not give informed consent, they don't even know what consent is (pdf). And I'm not surprised it's a thing; this is the fandom that debated whether Brittany is able to consent.
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Jan 24, 2015 08:09
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Yeeah I dunno, those sites suggest that the main problem is lack of education about sex and consent, not that they literally shouldn't or couldn't consent to sex. Not that I doubt those statistics in the least, but they obviously don't apply in this case to Becky and her boyfriend, who is clearly not abusive. It is something to be aware of, though.
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This episode was weird on so many levels that I feel like Glee finally just gave into what people said were complaints and had Sue be the personification of Tumblr. This was through the use of: - Klaine Shrine - Complaints about missing Glee members: Dreads, Kid Irish, MATT (vanishing kid). - Will's lack of "Wheel in the Sky" for his complete Journey repertoire. - Sue's rabid shipper tactics and making Karofsky seem like the douche boyfriend for the sake of doing so. - Praising the band! The band! They know all of the music. Why do they know all of the music on a whim? In a way this felt like watching a fanfic as an episode.... and the preview for next week looks like it'll be more of the same with the trapped in the elevator trope It was very very very weird. And I think that was the point of it - it was suppose to just be weird.
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Jan 24, 2015 09:50
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The writers are Quinn and the show is a purple piano.
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the truth posted:The writers are Quinn and the show is a purple piano. This was the greatest episode ever! Sue hypnotizing Sam, and singing Bitch. Holy gently caress. Edit: are you bi-polar? We don't like you. lmaooooooo Error 404 fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Jan 24, 2015 20:32
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I'm not sure if this is the worst or best episode ever. I'm so confused.
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That was the most insane Glee episode I've ever seen. The metacommentary ('We don't like you!'), the bizarre antics (Hypnotism, Drone, Klaine Shrine) and deliberately terrible song choices was just overwhelming. At least it wasn't boring. And at least it isn't a one-off. Plus I think we can all agree that Sue praising the band was well deserved.
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I've watched every episode of Glee so far. Some were good. Some were bad. But this episode was terrible. The worst. I would seriously consider drop the show if it wasn't the last season.
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Andrew_1985 posted:That was the most insane Glee episode I've ever seen. The metacommentary ('We don't like you!'), the bizarre antics (Hypnotism, Drone, Klaine Shrine) and deliberately terrible song choices was just overwhelming. Aside from the shipping stuff, it's like Sue was the last few of our Glee threads personified. Same with Santana's takedown of Kurt last episode.
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Jan 25, 2015 02:00
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I thought yesterday's episode was great. I'd be completely happy if the show just goes crazy and off the rails for the last few episodes, because at least they aren't taking themselves so drat seriously anymore. Wacky and out of control episodes are so much better than what the show has been the last few seasons. To me it feels like it's hitting some of the marks it did in the first 9 episodes of the show but even crazier now because it's almost over and they don't give a gently caress anymore.
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Ither posted:I've watched every episode of Glee so far. Some were good. Some were bad. But this episode was terrible. The worst. Rocky Horror, Kissed a Girl, and Extraordinary Merry Christmas are still much worse, but this was down there for sure. The weirdest part for me was that Vocal Adrenaline's closing numbers were supposed to be really good. The lack of applause said to me what I was thinking, which was "That was mostly sing-talking, what the hell?" I had to be told that they were supposed to be shocked at how ham VA went. I'm still not totally convinced. Also Will instantly believing that Rachel would turn on him and not suspect that Sue had anything to do with it is garbage writing. Stabitha posted:To me it feels like it's hitting some of the marks it did in the first 9 episodes of the show but even crazier now because it's almost over and they don't give a gently caress anymore. Murphy's gonna Murphy. If my show couldn't sustain the lead-in from World's Funniest Fails I wouldn't care either, especially since the final season renewal was guaranteed before the faithful viewership bubble finally collapsed last season. The metacriticism in this ep doesn't work because no one who made any such complaints about the show are watching anymore (also because nobody really thought any of that stuff outside of the Glee writers' room probably). I will agree that the best possible option is for them to go completely bugfuck insane but it's not good television even if it's a spectacle.
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Jan 25, 2015 08:27
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Ryan Murphy writes women like they're an abstract concept explained to him in a bar by a drunken patron. Actually, scratch that. Ryan Murphy writes people like they're an abstract concept concept explained to him in a bar by a drunken patron. Are we sure he's human? I'm finding it loving hysterical that all of the new Glee club members are literally just being used as vehicles for flashback shows of the original cast. Like they're not even minor characters they're just vocal furniture.
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Jan 25, 2015 10:46
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courtney_beth posted:This episode was weird on so many levels that I feel like Glee finally just gave into what people said were complaints and had Sue be the personification of Tumblr. This was through the use of: I kinda liked the scene - a million burly ex-boyfriends who are all absolutely delighted to see him again. At least we know his dance card won't be empty for long after the inevitable breakup. 
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SHUPS 4 DETH posted:Also Will instantly believing that Rachel would turn on him and not suspect that Sue had anything to do with it is garbage writing. I believed it because Will is an easily manipulated idiot.
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Jan 25, 2015 17:32
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How can Glee be aware I spent some time this weekend watching Patti LuPone youtube videos, which simultaneously being so clueless about everything else I would like/hate?
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Jan 26, 2015 05:37
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I finally caught up and I love that everyone is essentially living in Glee Hell. It's the glorious train wreck of an ending we all demanded. When I say "caught up" I mean I did skip the end of last season so I didn't see whatever become of Trivial Hat, Half Puck, the Second Dyslexic, and the rest. Anyways, it's had some excellent lines peppered throughout, and it seems everyone's rant and tirades are meant to be the apex of bitchery. I also love that they just made Sue crazy. I've also noticed they've done Alanis Morissette, what, every episode?
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Jan 26, 2015 06:29
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Marley's Hat parted ways with Marley to pursue a solo career. Sadly it's currently stuck working lovely collabs with the likes of Neyo and Labrinth 
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What the everloving gently caress are they all smoking over there
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Jan 31, 2015 04:46
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Oh so tonight's episode confirms that the Vocal Adrenaline performance WAS supposed to be good. Though I don't know how that's the case.
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Mo0 posted:What the everloving gently caress are they all smoking over there Making the greatest 13 episodes of television that will ever exist.
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Parts of Glee Season 6 is better than it's ever been. In a flaming train kind of way. Between the JigSue and Kitty scenes, we had an enjoyable and absurd episode. The rest is terrible. Only a few more episodes before Glee crashes into the final station. It's pretty clear they're not getting past the first round of sectionals or regionals this year. They just don't have enough time.
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This is the first time I've enjoyed Glee. Even in an ironic sense. It's like seeing a train crash into a bus filled with orphans intentionally.
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SHUPS 4 DETH posted:Rocky Horror, Kissed a Girl, and Extraordinary Merry Christmas are still much worse, but this was down there for sure. nm this was the worst ep of the entire series
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Malpais Legate posted:Oh so tonight's episode confirms that the Vocal Adrenaline performance WAS supposed to be good. I cam't remember a Vocal Adrenaline performance that wasn't completely dull. Synchronized dancing. a complete lack of personality and the majority of the group only being there for show just isn't that interesting.
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From the AV Club comments section, this might be the most perfect thing ever said about this show.quote:Long running SNL sketches have more coherence of character and theme than Glee does.
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God I love this crazy beautiful show.  Best part of the ep was probably Kitty, but the final setlist was pretty great too. Who knew that I have pretty much the same list of vulnerable songs as Sue?
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Do you remember all those years ago when this beautiful trainwreck was just beginning and everybody said "well at least it'll never be as crazy as nip/tuck, I mean how weird could a tv show about singing teenagers get???"
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Oasx posted:I cam't remember a Vocal Adrenaline performance that wasn't completely dull. Synchronized dancing. a complete lack of personality and the majority of the group only being there for show just isn't that interesting. I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this way about the traditional show choir style. poo poo's boring as gently caress.
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CuwiKhons posted:Do you remember all those years ago when this beautiful trainwreck was just beginning and everybody said "well at least it'll never be as crazy as nip/tuck, I mean how weird could a tv show about singing teenagers get???" Honestly, this is why I kind of want to watch American Horror Story. Ryan Murphy is really great at running with ideas for about a season before he drives the train off a cliff. AHS is a different story every season so he can be crazy in the good way every year?
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From what I've read, American Horror Story has exactly the same sort of problems as Glee, becoming more apparent season by season. You shouldn't allow yourself to believe there's any way to mitigate or limit the deleterious effects of Ryan Murphy.
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BrianWilly posted:Who knew that I have pretty much the same list of vulnerable songs as Sue? I was thinking the exact same thing. Sue rly is the Glee fandom this season.
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This season is so ridiculous that I am enjoying just how META it is. Sue is the fandom and is breaking all fourth walls and it's beautiful. The entire Klaine "stuck in an elevator" trope was hilarious in an uncomfortable and second-hand embarrassment way. It was like bad fanfiction coming to life and I loved it. I loved it so much because it was so stupid. I don't remember much about the episode other than the New Directions won even though they sat down in chairs and didn't have 12 members. It was nice to see the Warblers do their thing as well.
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AnimeJune posted:Honestly, this is why I kind of want to watch American Horror Story. Ryan Murphy is really great at running with ideas for about a season before he drives the train off a cliff. AHS is a different story every season so he can be crazy in the good way every year? Android Blues posted:You shouldn't allow yourself to believe there's any way to mitigate or limit the deleterious effects of Ryan Murphy. Correct. Instead of a good season, the premieres and first few eps are compelling but at about midway they turn into misery porn and by the end of the season you realize that you wasted your time, except for S2 "Asylum" which I am assured is much better, but after "Murder House" i couldn't be bothered to watch. "Coven" brought me back because of Angela Bassett and Gabourey Sidibe and Kathy Bates playing a historical racist who at one point is watching an Obama speech, crying out of sheer frustration. That scene owns but if you watch Coven skip the last 3 eps and just make up your own ending. It will be better than what you skipped.
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AnimeJune posted:Yeah, didn't Nip/Tuck have that penisless serial mutilator/rapist who was boning his sister with a strap-on? The same sister who posed as a detective and boned the hotter doctor, who was ALSO raped by the dickless strap on dude? AHS breaks that trend. I liked season 1. Season 2 was great. Then it goes off the cliff.
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Oasx posted:I cam't remember a Vocal Adrenaline performance that wasn't completely dull. Synchronized dancing. a complete lack of personality and the majority of the group only being there for show just isn't that interesting. Well isn't that supposed to be the point of them? That was established in S1 as their big weakness - they're all competing-for-marks technical talent, no love or passion for what they do. Also this episode was hilarious. The restraining bolts are off, and I am loving the crazytrain.
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I am pleased with the way this season is going, but I wish there were weekly Lea Michele solos.
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This episode was pretty great. I do not care for Sam and Rachel at all since A) just historically-speaking Sam's relationships aren't known for lasting B) is he still hypnotized or what? But Brittany. Brittany was amazing. I mean, I didn't miss her at all when she was gone, but I sure love her on my screen when they give her the right material. And, once again, it's great that her and Santana are having more content in ten minutes than they had in ten years. I like how this season is legitimately doing the thing where they focus extensively on one or two character plots per episode and just let the other non-guest-starring characters off the hook for a bit, instead of trying to cram all 30+ of its recurring characters into every single minute. Even with all the songs in the episode, the pacing is much improved. Though of course when you do that, you run into the whole "Where the gently caress was Tina?" problem.
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