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Genetic squares posted:you can have sex without a penis Yeah, but how will they know when they're done?
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Beeez posted:I mentioned the scissoring option already. Must you be so defensive of every dumb aspect of the show? No defending the show here, you're just being a bit obtuse.
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Jan 31, 2015 02:21
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Lycus posted:No defending the show here, you're just being a bit obtuse. Well yeah, it's a silly topic that one couldn't possibly take all that seriously. I do think the addition of a love story for Grey Worm seems pointless and stupid, but obviously my comments on the logistics of him having sex aren't out of a place of real conviction. This thread is facetious most of the time in general, I thought.
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Jan 31, 2015 02:27
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Trailer confirms Jaime and Bronn in Dorne. We see shots of the two of them fighting off Dornish riders, and Jaime being escorted by Hotah in a Dornish interior. Also, apparently the Brazen Beasts are a) no longer beasts and b) Dany's enemy. They're seen killing Unsullied and circling Dany, Missandei, Daario, and Jorah (?! Maybe it's Selmy) in the pit.
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Jan 31, 2015 03:00
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It's hilarious how much they are just making up their own version of the story and I hope it really gets to GRRM.
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Jan 31, 2015 03:02
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tin can made man posted:Also, apparently the Brazen Beasts are a) no longer beasts and b) Dany's enemy. They're seen killing Unsullied and circling Dany, Missandei, Daario, and Jorah (?! Maybe it's Selmy) in the pit. They probably just took the masks from the Beasts and gave them to the Sons because they thought they looked cool.
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Jan 31, 2015 03:04
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Lycus posted:They probably just took the masks from the Beasts and gave them to the Sons because they thought they looked cool. And/or the Sons are in disguise and it's an easy way to sneak up on Dany.
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Jan 31, 2015 04:10
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Looks like they're doing the scene where Arya throws away all her stuff, except Needle. There was a crazy amount of sexy ladies in that trailer.
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Jan 31, 2015 06:08
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Been a while since I thought about Game of Thrones, but now that the casting is sorted and the trailer is out I think it's finally safe to say that yeah, they're not doing the Greyjoys, Quentyn or Aegon and probably only as much Dorne as they need to. I'm quite excited to see how the story plays out with a tighter, more intimate cast to see how they streamline plots, it'll basically be a fundamental rewrite of the Ball of Beasts and that's quite exciting. I remember feeling more disappointment earlier when hearing about good parts of the story that were being cut, like Stoneheart, but now that it's clear the rewrite is even more radical the next season promises to be a new version of the story rather than just a diminished version of the original. I'm especially interested in what Brienne and Pod get up to, considering they don't have much narrative drive at the moment. Maybe they'll get pulled into the Sansa and Littlefinger story?
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Jan 31, 2015 07:12
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twistedmentat posted:Looks like they're doing the scene where Arya throws away all her stuff, except Needle. Besides Needle does she even have anything worth a drat?
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Jan 31, 2015 07:17
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Is there a reason for Melisandre to be getting naked while she's on the wall? Guess she's gonna bang Jon Snow
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Jan 31, 2015 07:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Besides Needle does she even have anything worth a drat? That horse and whatever she took off the hound
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Jan 31, 2015 07:25
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Easiest  ever.At least this comes as close to proving Aegon was completely manufactured in the books to give Dany's arc in Westeros some kind of momentum as we're going to get, until somebody gets permission to write the rest of them after he dies and Dune taught me that if that happens Aegon will likely be turned into a baby killing robot.
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Jan 31, 2015 08:22
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I'm hoping that writers who set out to adapt books to movies or television will realize that drastic changes to source material almost always hurt the end product. For proof, go see the Hobbit movies.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:26
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The Fellowship of the Ring was a box office flop because they cut the vital and compelling character that is Tom Bombadil.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:32
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Lycus posted:The Fellowship of the Ring was a box office flop because they cut the vital and compelling character that is Tom Bombadil. I know you're trying to be sarcastic but that's exactly the point: Tom Bombadil was not a vital character and therefore cutting him out did not hurt the movie's performance.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:34
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For proof of the exact opposite, watch Jaws, Apocalypse Now, A Clockwork Orange, The Godfather, Dr. Strangelove, Blade Runner, or goddamn Die Hard.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:42
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Dolash posted:Maybe they'll get pulled into the Sansa and Littlefinger story? Apparently not. Supposedly they do go to the Vale but get chased off.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:47
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Dolash posted:Been a while since I thought about Game of Thrones, but now that the casting is sorted and the trailer is out I think it's finally safe to say that yeah, they're not doing the Greyjoys, Quentyn or Aegon and probably only as much Dorne as they need to. I'm quite excited to see how the story plays out with a tighter, more intimate cast to see how they streamline plots, it'll basically be a fundamental rewrite of the Ball of Beasts and that's quite exciting. Yeah, I think people are prematurely assuming that something getting cut from the show means it won't play a big role in the books.I don't see it that way. Aegon and Victarion are likely going to have a bunch of cool poo poo in the next book, but in the huge overarcing plot, they'll probably both die advancing the plot in ways that other characters could have done more efficiently. I know I'm alone here, but I enjoyed the chapters following Quentyn through the wreckage in Dany's wake. Ultimately all he does is free the dragons, and they can do that on the show through some other means, but that doesn't mean his chapters were a waste. The only Aegon and Victarion getting cut really tells you is that they won't be commanding the dragons in the big battle against the ice zombies in Book 7, but I doubt many people thought that was going to happen anyway.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:47
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enraged_camel posted:I'm hoping that writers who set out to adapt books to movies or television will realize that drastic changes to source material almost always hurt the end product. I don't think that works as a blanket statement. While I do think that on the whole the books are of a greater quality than the television series, they're not really setting out to do the same things. I feel like the television series' goal is to tell an entertaining story within the world of Westeros, whereas the books' focus seems to be on discovering the world of Westeros by using an entertaining story. This is why stuff like Jaime treating with the Brackens and the Blackwoods at the riverlands makes sense in the books but not in the television show. Midnight City posted:Easiest Well I'm certain that every character was completely manufactured, but I digress, I don't believe that Aegon not being in the show means anything about what his role in the books is or will be. There's this notion, I think, that all the characters who are cut are going to be unimportant because the guys doing the television show cut them but I don't think that's necessarily the case. For instance, Lady Stoneheart was cut, but let's say that in TWoW she ends up somehow killing Brienne...would that prevent them from cutting her in the television show? I don't think so. D&D could have figured that a whole different character could kill Brienne, or even that Brienne doesn't need to die. D&D said that GRRM gave them the idea of the general direction of the series, but does GRRM really seem like the kind of guy who would tell somebody "This Aegon guy isn't important and doesn't do anything important"? I'm sure that whatever role Aegon was going to fill in the story isn't going to completely go away. If the show does indeed follow future plotlines from the books closely (which I have my doubts about), they'll probably just do something like have Trystane fill that role, and have the Martell's bid for power more direct instead of going through the Targaryen dynasty. This also makes sense, because the irony of a male and female Targaryen fighting for the throne and destroying Westeros in the process is completely lost on a TV viewer, who have never even hear the name "The Dance of the Dragons" except that one time they thought it was the name of the 5th book.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:48
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PostNouveau posted:I know I'm alone here, but I enjoyed the chapters following Quentyn through the wreckage in Dany's wake. Ultimately all he does is free the dragons, and they can do that on the show through some other means, but that doesn't mean his chapters were a waste. To me, it's just an example of shows and books being different, and shows need to be trimmer.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:51
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My point of him being manufactured was that it was completely obvious to a whole bunch of people that he pulled a dumb loving baby switcheroo plot line out of his rear end because he self admittedly couldn't find any way to get Dany to Westeros, so his solution was Aegon, a character only a few degrees less transparently lovely than Quentyn and so easy to see that I toxxed myself he'd be excluded from the show and alas he most likely is.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:53
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Midnight City posted:My point of him being manufactured was that it was completely obvious to a whole bunch of people that he pulled a dumb loving baby switcheroo plot line out of his rear end because he self admittedly couldn't find any way to get Dany to Westeros, so his solution was Aegon, a character only a few degrees less transparently lovely than Quentyn and so easy to see that I toxxed myself he'd be excluded from the show and alas he most likely is. Aegon was thought up at least as early as Clash of Kings, though.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:56
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I'm not super convinced that just because they cut something for the show it isn't important in the books. I know GRRM can be a little questionable at times but I highly doubt he introduced a new Targaryen pretender, had them land in Westeros with an army, and foreshadowed a second Dance just to have Aegon choke on a chicken bone 50 pages into TWOW.
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Jan 31, 2015 09:59
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TOOT BOOT posted:I'm not super convinced that just because they cut something for the show it isn't important in the books. I know GRRM can be a little questionable at times but I highly doubt he introduced a new Targaryen pretender, had them land in Westeros with an army, and foreshadowed a second Dance just to have Aegon choke on a chicken bone 50 pages into TWOW. My sweet summer child, you still think there are more books coming.
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Jan 31, 2015 10:11
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MonsieurChoc posted:Aegon was thought up at least as early as Clash of Kings, though. Isn't that one line from ACOK about contradictory head smashing? If we're going with that we might as well operate in the same territory that Theon killed his own child, Jeyne imposter, Sansa/Hound made out, etc. TOOT BOOT posted:I'm not super convinced that just because they cut something for the show it isn't important in the books. I know GRRM can be a little questionable at times but I highly doubt he introduced a new Targaryen pretender, had them land in Westeros with an army, and foreshadowed a second Dance just to have Aegon choke on a chicken bone 50 pages into TWOW. I'm not saying he dies on a chicken bone, I'm saying that he's almost assuredly only exists to do what GRRM couldn't figure out a way for Dany to be doing and that's making progress in Westeros, so I've firmly hitched my star to 'he's going to end up being a worthless rear end pulled character that I never, ever want to read another page about' in Penny/Quentyn fashion.
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Jan 31, 2015 10:14
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For every person that thinks the show should cut almost nothing and be 15 seasons long, there's a person who loved the initial three books but thought that Feast and Dance were poo poo. So I'm just gonna watch. If I like it, cool. If I don't, it's not guaranteed that it'll be because of stuff that was cut or changed.
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Jan 31, 2015 10:20
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I just think it's sad that, if the books are ever finished, they'll be seen as the alternative version to the ending we already have. And I don't want the show spoiling the story for me. I'm still going to watch the gently caress out of it though.
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Jan 31, 2015 10:24
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Well, that trailer was okay. I'd say something about things being cut, but I won't because there's quite alot of "surprises" that never get any time in the trailers. While I am pretty sure Aegon, Quentyn, and the Greyjoys are out, I don't rule out the possibility that one of those (most likely Aegon) might appear suddenly when we had all but given up on it. With that said, I am not fooling myself another time by hoping for LS or the sight of dozens of hanging Freys. Nor do I expect that awesome exchange between Jaime and The Blackfish outside the gates of Riverrun.  There's less for me to look forward to from this point on than in any previous season, but if the new twists they throw in original to the TV series work then that make change. Still, even if AFFC/ADWD lacked in the amount of awesome and iconic moments as previous books (particularly ASOS), there is still some I am looking forward to seeing in Season 5. And the thing I am looking forward to most is not Drogon's sudden reappearance, funtimes at the Wall, or a "fat pink mast" (I hope they cut that, but this is HBO...). Rather, what I want to see most from Season 5 is watching a certain arrogant fool hear the word that they never expected in response to one of their commands: "No" Any dead Freys or cool unexpected stuff in Dorne is a bonus to witnessing the long-awaited fall of someone who has deserved it for a very long time. 
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Jan 31, 2015 11:06
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This has probably been talked about at some point. If anyone even cares. But holy hell how the winteriscoming.net has pretty much died. It used to be The place to get all the info regarding the show. Now the newest trailer has 15 comments. Couple of years ago it would've been hundred times that. I wonder where everyone went.
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Jan 31, 2015 13:46
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Irish Joe posted:Dang, couple more months and we could have asked some really good questions Red title/ post combination, I think you should talk to a professional, such as a psychiatrist or a police officer
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Jan 31, 2015 13:57
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strangeneighbor posted:This has probably been talked about at some point. If anyone even cares. But holy hell how the winteriscoming.net has pretty much died. It used to be The place to get all the info regarding the show. Now the newest trailer has 15 comments. Couple of years ago it would've been hundred times that. I wonder where everyone went. Apparently it was sold to some company who used it to plug ASOIAF-themed clickbait. Most of the contributors left to form another site (Watchers on the Wall I think?) and the readers followed.
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Ague Proof posted:Apparently it was sold to some company who used it to plug ASOIAF-themed clickbait. Most of the contributors left to form another site (Watchers on the Wall I think?) and the readers followed. Watchers on the Wall looks pretty good. Thanks for that.
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Jan 31, 2015 14:07
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Now that I've built up my thread-cred with Aegon I can move into murkier waters like doubling down on book Jojen getting eaten. Or show Jojen getting eaten, it'll just be BBQ'd instead
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Jan 31, 2015 14:10
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enraged_camel posted:I'm hoping that writers who set out to adapt books to movies or television will realize that drastic changes to source material almost always hurt the end product. I agree, Rankin-Bass did a terrible thing and Peter Jackson (mostly) rectified that.
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Professor Shark posted:Red title/ post combination, I think you should talk to a professional, such as a psychiatrist or a police officer I mean... She's legal isn't she?
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Jan 31, 2015 14:17
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Midnight City posted:Isn't that one line from ACOK about contradictory head smashing? If we're going with that we might as well operate in the same territory that Theon killed his own child, Jeyne imposter, Sansa/Hound made out, etc. I think he's referring to the fact that the "mummer's dragon" has been a thing since ACoK, and GRRM has made the distinction since at least the year 2000 that only Rhaenys was definitely dead. Like him or not, Aegon isn't likely to have been something Martin pulled out of his rear end because he was baffled by the Mereenese Knot, he's been planting those seeds for a while.
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Jan 31, 2015 15:46
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The two aren't mutually exclusive, one reference in one book of one chapter being near complete prophecy does not make something a well thought out or executed plot point. It's also borderline silly to deny the Aegon related poo poo is related to the Meereeneese Knot problem when he's said the whole problem was getting Tyrion and the various people to Dany and then had Tyrion's river boating adventure being with Aegon.
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Jan 31, 2015 15:59
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Midnight City posted:
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Could be but I'm choosing to believe it was Completely Unnecessary Side Character #814, 1-810 naturally being Darkstar followed by Quentyn and Penny and whoever else I've managed to drink away the memory of by now.
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