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fritz: Jul 26, 2003

i have been given a sdk in objective c, and a library i wrote in c++, and i want to get them working together in a demo, so it looks like my best option is to write that demo in objective c because going one way is easier than going the other? idk

# ? Feb 4, 2015 03:39

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# ? May 13, 2024 12:07

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

whatever you do, however much someone bribes you, do not consider Objective-C++

there is no candy in that van

# ? Feb 4, 2015 03:40

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

like objective c adds the objective stuff to c which is mostly the weird message passing syntax [receiver [receiver message]] or something iirc it's been a while

otherwise you drop to c for most things

# ? Feb 4, 2015 03:41

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

yeah once i start digging this looks pretty c-like except function declaration looks pretty different with colons and dashes and stuff to figure out

# ? Feb 4, 2015 03:48

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

objective-c isn't a very good language, but it's not terrible I guess. the sooner swift matures enough to replace it completely, the better.

be careful with nil, because calling a method on a nil will just give you a nil and not give you any hint that anything is wrong.

also this convention is actually disgusting:

code:

-(id)init {
    if (self = [super init]) {
       // initialize
    }
    return self
}

# ? Feb 4, 2015 04:59

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Malcolm XML posted:

get a lawyer
get a lawyer
get a lawyer
get a lawyer
get a lawyer

lol yes i'm sure involving counsel will ensure the best possible outcome for my employment negotiations

# ? Feb 4, 2015 16:52

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

lol yes i'm sure involving counsel will ensure the best possible outcome for my employment negotiations

lol

# ? Feb 4, 2015 17:29

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

let me just give you some legal advice but first off: you should never, ever talk to anyone who actually understands this, studied this, and does this for a living

# ? Feb 4, 2015 17:30

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

so apparently today I, a terrible programmer, get to tutor a literal child out of college with no job experience on our app's design

I will mark down this day as finally being in a position where I can ruin other programmers and make them as bad as I am

# ? Feb 4, 2015 17:36

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

tef posted:

let me just give you some legal advice but first off: you should never, ever talk to anyone who actually understands this, studied this, and does this for a living

talking to a lawyer about a contract you're planning to sign: not a bad idea

employing a lawyer to negotiate the nitty gritty on a horrible contract that thousands of employees already signed: lol

# ? Feb 4, 2015 17:40

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

knockout.js components are confirmed ownage.

# ? Feb 4, 2015 17:52

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

talking to a lawyer about a contract you're planning to sign: not a bad idea

employing a lawyer to negotiate the nitty gritty on a horrible contract that thousands of employees already signed: lol

normally u are a moron, but this time u r a dangerous moron. get a lawyer if you need to dealw ith any employment contract terms~~

# ? Feb 4, 2015 17:54

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

implying america has employment contracts

# ? Feb 4, 2015 18:03

lord funk: Feb 16, 2004

fleshweasel posted:

be careful with nil, because calling a method on a nil will just give you a nil and not give you any hint that anything is wrong.

i love this but a) i can see how explicitly testing with optionals in swift is much better and b) i am a bad programmer

# ? Feb 4, 2015 18:09

Deacon of Delicious: Aug 20, 2007; I bet the twist ending is Dracula's dick-babies

Malcolm XML posted:

normally u are a moron, but this time u r a dangerous moron. get a lawyer if you need to dealw ith any employment contract terms~~

no no, just tell the company 'no lawyers, pinky swear.'
you wouldn't want to sign a contract with no legal representation, while they have an entire legal department!!!

# ? Feb 4, 2015 19:06

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Malcolm XML posted:

normally u are a moron, but this time u r a dangerous moron. get a lawyer if you need to dealw ith any employment contract terms~~

he said to get lawyer to explain it, don't pay the lawyer $texas/hoir to argue with their lawyer

# ? Feb 4, 2015 19:17

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

hobbesmaster posted:

he said to get lawyer to explain it, don't pay the lawyer $texas/hoir to argue with their lawyer

arguing law sans lawyer is a dumbass move in any way

# ? Feb 4, 2015 19:53

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

eh, I'm sure it'll be fine. law is just like programming but in english, right?

# ? Feb 4, 2015 20:23

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Malcolm XML posted:

arguing law sans lawyer is a dumbass move in any way

there's not gonna be any arguing.

your lawyer will call and they'll retract the offer lol

# ? Feb 4, 2015 22:40

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

hobbesmaster posted:

get a lawyer to explain it, don't pay the lawyer $texas/hour to argue with their lawyer

# ? Feb 4, 2015 22:46

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

talking to a lawyer about a contract you're planning to sign: not a bad idea

employing a lawyer to negotiate the nitty gritty on a horrible contract that thousands of employees already signed: lol

I've requested changes or clarifications on most of my employment contracts, sometimes on the advice of counsel. similarly, I've had dozens of candidates ask for changes and even big companies can accommodate changes if they want to (usually not by amending the standard contract but by executing a separate agreement). I'd think it was a little aggro for a candidate's lawyer to call me, but not if they said "so hey, I didn't understand it so I asked a lawyer, could you tell me more about...".

talk to a loving lawyer. if nothing else, you go in with your eyes open, and you can see if the employer can explain why they have certain clauses.

# ? Feb 4, 2015 22:47

Space Whale: Nov 6, 2014

triple sulk posted:

so apparently today I, a terrible programmer, get to tutor a literal child out of college with no job experience on our app's design

I will mark down this day as finally being in a position where I can ruin other programmers and make them as bad as I am

You're basically being paid to rubber duck the app and you'll learn a lot more about it by helping the literalChild, and also go home feeling good about yourself since you helped someone do a high paying job.

# ? Feb 4, 2015 22:48

Arcsech: Aug 5, 2008

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

there's not gonna be any arguing.

your lawyer will call and they'll retract the offer lol

lol

nobody said have your lawyer call their lawyer. the opposite in fact:

hobbesmaster posted:

he said to get lawyer to explain it, don't pay the lawyer $texas/hoir to argue with their lawyer

mostly when you are looking for work, have already signed a noncompete, and want to know how to keep yourself from opening yourself up to a lawsuit. it's worth the small cost it takes to get a lawyer to read your contract to not have to bet on the fact that your former company's legal department wont be a giant collection of assholes

(every legal department ever is a giant collection of assholes)

# ? Feb 4, 2015 23:04

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Arcsech posted:

lol

nobody said have your lawyer call their lawyer. the opposite in fact:

mostly when you are looking for work, have already signed a noncompete, and want to know how to keep yourself from opening yourself up to a lawsuit. it's worth the small cost it takes to get a lawyer to read your contract to not have to bet on the fact that your former company's legal department wont be a giant collection of assholes

(every legal department ever is a giant collection of assholes)

you're quoting a guy who agreed with me, in order to express your disagreement

this has grown very confusing

# ? Feb 4, 2015 23:16

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Someone at work showed me ctrl p and I rebound the split/tab buttons to things that feel familiar and now I like vim

# ? Feb 5, 2015 00:24

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

Someone at work showed me ctrl p and I rebound the split/tab buttons to things that feel familiar and now I like vim

congrats on your newfound autism

# ? Feb 5, 2015 00:27

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

Someone at work showed me ctrl p and I rebound the split/tab buttons to things that feel familiar and now I like vim

does it have any advantages over just nerdtree and ack.vim?

# ? Feb 5, 2015 00:37

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

wait whats ctrl p

# ? Feb 5, 2015 01:03

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

where you can just start and stop as many times as you like without breaking your urethra?

iunno

# ? Feb 5, 2015 01:05

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

Stringent posted:

does it have any advantages over just nerdtree and ack.vim?

nerdtree feels clunky and dumb. it's a sign that maybe you should just get an IDE instead of making GBS threads vim with stuff like nerdtree.

tbf though command-t is one of the few vim plugins that I use

# ? Feb 5, 2015 01:48

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Symbolic Butt posted:

nerdtree feels clunky and dumb. it's a sign that maybe you should just get an IDE instead of making GBS threads vim with stuff like nerdtree.

file browsing is your idea of an ide use case?

# ? Feb 5, 2015 01:53

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

yes

# ? Feb 5, 2015 01:55

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Stringent posted:

where you can just start and stop as many times as you like without breaking your urethra?

iunno

oh jesus what's that thing where like you jerk off but you don't let it come out

# ? Feb 5, 2015 03:12

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

edging? kegels? the drive to work?

# ? Feb 5, 2015 03:34

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Stringent posted:

does it have any advantages over just nerdtree and ack.vim?

nerdtree was really awful and not at all something i enjoyed using from my experience

ctrl-p you just type and then when your file is there you hit enter and bam

it's not good i guess if you don't know what you're trying to find

# ? Feb 5, 2015 03:40

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

Luigi Thirty posted:

oh jesus what's that thing where like you jerk off but you don't let it come out

jelq

# ? Feb 5, 2015 03:44

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

Luigi Thirty posted:

oh jesus what's that thing where like you jerk off but you don't let it come out

edging?

# ? Feb 5, 2015 04:10

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Luigi Thirty posted:

oh jesus what's that thing where like you jerk off but you don't let it come out

duke nukem forever

# ? Feb 5, 2015 04:12

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Luigi Thirty posted:

oh jesus what's that thing where like you jerk off but you don't let it come out

marriage

# ? Feb 5, 2015 04:13

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Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Luigi Thirty posted:

oh jesus what's that thing where like you jerk off but you don't let it come out

tender embraces with the person you, luigi 30, are emotionally closest with

# ? Feb 5, 2015 05:37

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