gradenko_2000 posted:

So instead of a government mandate to have employees wash their hands after using the bathroom, you'll instead have a ... government mandate for a business to up signs indicating whether or not their employees are obliged to wash their hands after using the bathroom?

Well no, of course not, that's still government overreach, so instead the layman will just have to figure it out for their themselves whether any given establishment they're walking into practices safe food preparation I suppose he'll be able to figure it out via cultural osmosis.

Duke Igthorn posted:

Ha ha stupid liberal! Where you see confusion the enlightened libertarian sees OPPORTUNITY! For just the low, low price of 49.99 in bitcoin, or gold, you can hire my service. We specialize in following restaurant employees into the bathroom to observe hand washing technique or lack thereof. And for just twenty dollars more you can get on the deluxe package and we will give you the REAL report and not the one the restaurant is paying us to show you! See? Yet another way government is strangling business:next time you run of to Big Gov try thinking of all those hard working Hand Sanitation Engineers that don't have jobs. Yet

hamster_style posted:

Mornacale posted:

Now I'm imagining a ratings agency with an ever-escalating tier system, where consumers that pay for tier C_x get accurate info on any business at tiers {B_1, ..., B_x-1} but false ratings for businesses that pay for tier B_x or higher.

Mornacale posted:

Now I'm imagining a ratings agency with an ever-escalating tier system, where consumers that pay for tier C_x get accurate info on any business at tiers {B_1, ..., B_x-1} but false ratings for businesses that pay for tier B_x or higher.

gradenko_2000 posted:

So instead of a government mandate to have employees wash their hands after using the bathroom, you'll instead have a ... government mandate for a business to up signs indicating whether or not their employees are obliged to wash their hands after using the bathroom?

Well no, of course not, that's still government overreach, so instead the layman will just have to figure it out for their themselves whether any given establishment they're walking into practices safe food preparation I suppose he'll be able to figure it out via cultural osmosis.

The Dark One posted:

The Dark One posted:

Fulchrum posted:

What happens when the list of companies that are paying any tier above zero gets out since those are clearly filthy people and should just be avoided without having to pay anything?

Mornacale posted:

Praise the market!

Gravel Gravy posted:

What is the name of the website that changes names in posts?

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Alternate answer for Libertopia: Lots and lots of lengthy trade secret / breach of contract / defamation / violation of IP rights litigation, possibly all at once to obfuscate the issue, because if there's one thing free-market fellatio aficionados love, it's fucktons of litigation to decide whose rights are really "right".

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

SocialFixer

quote:

Hard to argue with this:

A German Jew's View on Islam – well worth reading. This is one of the
best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read.
His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy
to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is
Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist. A
man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned
a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German
people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude
toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the
return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one
of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the
majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it,
they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had
come.’

‘My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the
Allies destroyed my factories.'

‘We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that
Islam is a religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims
just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be
true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff meant to make
us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics
rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.’

‘The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.
It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of
50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically
slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are
gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is
the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the
fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who
zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and
homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to
become suicide bombers.’

‘The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the
'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was
comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the
Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about
20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge
population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to
kill a staggering 70 million people.’


‘The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a
warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way
across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the
systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by
sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed
into butchery? Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were
'peace loving'?

‘History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all
our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated
of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their
silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't
speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one
day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world
will have begun.’

‘Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs,
Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many
others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until
it was too late.’

‘Now Islamic prayers have been introduced in Toronto and other public
schools in Ontario , and, yes, in Ottawa , too, while the Lord's
Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The Islamic way may
be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move
in.’

‘In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of
the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them.
Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and
at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft have
the halal emblem just to appease the privileged minority who are now
rapidly expanding within the nation's shores.’

‘In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are
now dozens of "no-go" zones within major cities across the country
that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails
there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to
acknowledge British law.’

‘As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only
group that counts - the fanatics who threaten our way of life.’

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes
this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness
that allows the problems to expand.

Extend yourself a bit and send this on. Let us hope that thousands
world-wide read this, think about it, and send it on before it's too
late, and we are silenced because we were silent!!!

quote:

Hey dad, hope you're doing well!

This article was originally written in 2006 by a Canadian blogger who did not name his source, only saying it was a German acquaintance of his (http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2006/02/why-peaceful-majority-is-irrelevant.html). Dr. Emanuel Tanay, who passed away a few years ago, was Lithuanian and had nothing to do with the creation of the article, and it's unclear when or why his name became attached to it. The central issue with the article is the assumption that Islam is a single, unified organization - the comparison to a country like Germany is faulty, because Germans at the beginning of WW2 were all living in the same 147,000 square mile area, subject to the same laws, reeling from the same defeat in WWI. If Islam at its very base is corrupt and spiteful towards the American way of life, why aren't we at war with countries like Indonesia, Turkey, India, Bangladesh, and Nigeria (all of which have more Muslim residents than Iraq and Afghanistan)?

Plus the idea that most Muslims are sitting in silence, refusing to speak up against extremism is offensively wrong, when I can post links to peace rallies until I'm blue in the face -
http://kfor.com/2014/09/19/oklahoma-muslims-rally-against-isis/
http://www.thelocal.de/20140919/german-muslims-rally-against-extremism
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/thousands-uk-muslims-hold-mass-peace-rally-1453603
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/hundreds-join-peaceful-je-suis-muslim-rally-sydney-28441588
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/anti-extremism-rally-held-in-toronto-1.2939349
http://www.keyetv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/peaceful-muslim-texas-capitol-rally-draws-protesters-23822.shtml

Conservative Tribute (because of course) posted:

The murder of “American Sniper” author Chris Kyle is getting even more attention now that the movie adaptation of his best-selling memoir has become one of the biggest hits of the year.

Now, as his murderer is about to go on trial, shocking information about his motives may shed new light on the case.

According to an organization known as the Warfighter Foundation, there are two discomforting facts that the group uncovered in their investigation of Eddie Ray Routh, Kyle’s killer: he likely didn’t suffer from PTSD and he may have been a sympathizer of Islamist organizations.

The information, which came from a Freedom of Information Act request from by group, states that “During a phone call with his father, Routh expressed sympathy for the detainees and discontent over how the U.S. was conducting the war as well as his reluctance to engage in combat.”

“While working as a guard at Balad Air Base, Routh laments his (Muslim) prisoners’ poor living conditions,” the report also reads.

There is, one must point out, no evidence that Routh had converted to Islam, merely information suggesting that he may have sympathized with the Islamist organizations to which his prisoners belonged (H/T Allen West).

As for his post-traumatic stress disorder, the Warfighter Foundation points out that Routh’s experiences in the military made such a diagnosis unlikely.

“Eddie Routh served one tour in Iraq in 2007, at Balad Air Base (the 2nd largest U.S. installation in Iraq), with no significant events. No combat experience,” the organization said.

“Let me say that again, he NEVER SAW COMBAT or any aspect of traumatic events associated with a combat deployment (i.e. incoming mortar or rocket fire). He never left the base, EVER.”

And the base he was stationed at wasn’t exactly a spartan experience: “Balad Air Base had a Pizza Hut, 24 hour Burger King, Subway, Popeye’s, Baskin Robbins, movie theater, and even a miniature golf course. It even had a strictly enforced 10 mile per hour speed limit!”

I understand eating at Pizza Hut isn’t the most pleasant experience in the world, but it hardly qualifies as traumatic.

While Routh had been experiencing deteriorating mental health, his PTSD had been self-diagnosed — and as everyone who’s ever been in an Internet chat room knows, self-diagnosis isn’t exactly the most reliable form of medical attention.

While it’s unknown whether or not Routh’s possible Islamist sympathies had anything to do with his targeting of Kyle, it’s certainly as plausible of a theory as self-diagnosed PTSD.

However, PTSD fits a convenient media narrative about the privations and savagery of military life during the Bush administration, whereas possible Islamist sympathies sounds politically incorrect.

So if you’re wondering why you hear one and not the other, well, there you go.

Gravel Gravy posted:

Scruff McGruff posted:

Ho boy...


"He objected to the awful way prisoners were treated?! SYMPATHIZER! Also, how can he possibly have PTSD if he never saw combat?! MAKES YOU THINK!"

This is one of three articles this person has posted basically saying either that Routh was secret islamic assassin (because they needed to take out glorious American hero Chris Kyle) or that his PTSD wasn't "real" PTSD and he was just a wuss.

CowHammer posted:

Chris Kyle seemed to think Routh had PTSD. Are you calling him a liar?????

CowHammer posted:

Chris Kyle seemed to think Routh had PTSD. Are you calling him a liar?????

Chimera-gui posted:

My relative was also ranting about that very thing, they even said that if a high school girl got pregnant she should be cared for by her parents.

Chimera-gui posted:

Oi vey:

Pixelated Dragon posted:

I don't get the Chris Kyle craze. Who knows how much of his memoir was really true? Just look at the defamation case brought about by Jesse Ventura regarding the alleged punching incident.

Pixelated Dragon posted:

I don't get the Chris Kyle craze. Who knows how much of his memoir was really true? Just look at the defamation case brought about by Jesse Ventura regarding the alleged punching incident.

Zeitgueist posted:

Is there some handy resources for the racist "Islam is an evil religion, it just is" crap that crops up on facebook?

Crain posted:

Zeitgueist posted:

Fair point, but I find some value in arguing with people who have bad opinions(hence I post in D&D), and the person in question is not a friend, but rather a person posting on a friend's status, a friend who is not nearly so bigoted.

However, dude is mad about ISIS and I'm attempting to moderate the rhetoric a bit with facts.