Miltank posted:

you get to post like the atheists do in this thread. Its very fun, but probably not very Christian.

Kyrie eleison posted:

*shrug* People can post however they want here. I just don't want to validate what is essentially a parody thread of this one.

CommieGIR posted:

You already called us sociopaths.

Disinterested posted:

I don't think you've yet demonstrated the remotest capacity to understand the way in which others think, so the comparison may be apt.

Also, calling people sociopaths is kind of a tradition ITT.

CommieGIR posted:

Arguing that me being unwilling to accept your faiths POV does not make me a sociopath. Oh, and FYI, if you are not Catholic, you are one too, per Kyrie.

CommieGIR posted:

Arguing that me being unwilling to accept your faiths POV does not make me a sociopath. Oh, and FYI, if you are not Catholic, you are one too, per Kyrie.

Black Bones posted:

It's me, I'm God

And let me tell ya, those people are too dumb to parse the golden rule. Feel free to ignore them. Or elect them to government, it's up to you!

Disinterested posted:

I don't have a faith. I have plenty of points of difference with Kyrie. But you continue banging away on the same old fruitless drum - 'Well if God can't be shown by a process of logic or empirically observed, you are wrong/stupid', as if this was an interesting thing to say. We get it.

GAINING WEIGHT... posted:

Kyrie, you believe non-Christians will end up in hell, correct? What would your response to Bones be?

Kyrie eleison posted:

Actually, what I said is that all people are sociopathic, and religion helps us manage our innate evil.

Kyrie eleison posted:

Actually, what I said is that all people are sociopathic, and religion helps us manage our innate evil.

Black Bones posted:

God forgives All Sin, not just Christians. And forgiving someone means they did something wrong, if it was right there would be nothing to forgive. Forgiveness may be hard to enact, but it's a pretty simple concept.

GreyPowerVan posted:

How do people continue to take Kyrie seriously?

Kyrie eleison posted:

*shrug* who knows if they will go to hell or not. All I know is the method given by Christ for going to Heaven.

SedanChair posted:

Heaven sounds boring and is run by a bitch coward (as was demonstrated).

Unseen posted:

Indeed. Christian heaven does sound quite boring. I look forward to my eternity spent studying philosophy with Ayn Rand in the objectivist afterlife.

Kyrie eleison posted:

Anyway, here's a few thoughts on poverty. Instead of promoting state socialism and hating on Republicans, maybe you should go out and talk to a homeless person? Maybe give them a few bucks. Let's discuss our experiences with talking to the poor recently.

I talked to a guy on the street the other day who told me he has a wealthy sister. I asked him why he doesn't ask her for help? He was evasive. I told him that he should try to reconcile with his sister and that he was being proud. That he would rather live on the street than go to her with hat in hand. He rejected the idea.

Then he asked me to let him stay the night at my place, which I refused. Remember: never give them anything more than you have originally set out to. They will try to manipulate you. If you decide later you want to help them more, then you can come back later.

In before lots of hypocrites accost me for not letting a homeless man sleep in my apartment, which they obviously do all the time.

Kyrie eleison posted:

So many people in this forum love to try to distort the teachings of Christianity, but they can't because the teachings are traditional and you can't change them and so they just end up looking like they have a kooky personal theory. And the disdain some of them show for me -- which they generally admit is the orthodox opinion -- I think it shows their mentality. I was hoping there might be more orthodox Christians on SA, but it seems you have all done a good job at keeping them out, which I imagine is because you are all really open-minded and progressive.

Anyway, here's a few thoughts on poverty. Instead of promoting state socialism and hating on Republicans, maybe you should go out and talk to a homeless person? Maybe give them a few bucks. Let's discuss our experiences with talking to the poor recently.

....


In before lots of hypocrites accost me for not letting a homeless man sleep in my apartment, which they obviously do all the time.

Kyrie eleison posted:

So many people in this forum love to try to distort the teachings of Christianity, but they can't because the teachings are traditional and you can't change them and so they just end up looking like they have a kooky personal theory. And the disdain some of them show for me -- which they generally admit is the orthodox opinion -- I think it shows their mentality. I was hoping there might be more orthodox Christians on SA, but it seems you have all done a good job at keeping them out, which I imagine is because you are all really open-minded and progressive.

Anyway, here's a few thoughts on poverty. Instead of promoting state socialism and hating on Republicans, maybe you should go out and talk to a homeless person? Maybe give them a few bucks. Let's discuss our experiences with talking to the poor recently.

I talked to a guy on the street the other day who told me he has a wealthy sister. I asked him why he doesn't ask her for help? He was evasive. I told him that he should try to reconcile with his sister and that he was being proud. That he would rather live on the street than go to her with hat in hand. He rejected the idea.

Then he asked me to let him stay the night at my place, which I refused. Remember: never give them anything more than you have originally set out to. They will try to manipulate you. If you decide later you want to help them more, then you can come back later.

In before lots of hypocrites accost me for not letting a homeless man sleep in my apartment, which they obviously do all the time.

Al Harrington posted:

Did you give the guy a few bucks or just argue with him for a while?

Kyrie eleison posted:

You see, the lumpenproletariat are dependent on the bourgeoisie for survival, and this is why Marx considers them a counter-revolutionary class.

Kyrie eleison posted:

I gave him $5 before he asked me to sit down next to him. I saw him again later and gave him $20 and we talked more. And another time I talked to him while his friend played the guitar and gave the guitar man $5 which they shared between them.

You see, the lumpenproletariat are dependent on the bourgeoisie for survival, and this is why Marx considers them a counter-revolutionary class.

Kyrie eleison posted:

So is anyone else going to contribute? What have you all done for the poor lately? Let's discuss our attempts at Christian outreach. The last shall be first and the first shall be last.

Kyrie eleison posted:

So many people in this forum love to try to distort the teachings of Christianity, but they can't because the teachings are traditional and you can't change them and so they just end up looking like they have a kooky personal theory. And the disdain some of them show for me -- which they generally admit is the orthodox opinion -- I think it shows their mentality. I was hoping there might be more orthodox Christians on SA, but it seems you have all done a good job at keeping them out, which I imagine is because you are all really open-minded and progressive.

Anyway, here's a few thoughts on poverty. Instead of promoting state socialism and hating on Republicans, maybe you should go out and talk to a homeless person? Maybe give them a few bucks. Let's discuss our experiences with talking to the poor recently.

I talked to a guy on the street the other day who told me he has a wealthy sister. I asked him why he doesn't ask her for help? He was evasive. I told him that he should try to reconcile with his sister and that he was being proud. That he would rather live on the street than go to her with hat in hand. He rejected the idea.

Then he asked me to let him stay the night at my place, which I refused. Remember: never give them anything more than you have originally set out to. They will try to manipulate you. If you decide later you want to help them more, then you can come back later.

In before lots of hypocrites accost me for not letting a homeless man sleep in my apartment, which they obviously do all the time.

Kyrie eleison posted:

So many people in this forum love to try to distort the teachings of Christianity, but they can't because the teachings are traditional and you can't change them and so they just end up looking like they have a kooky personal theory. And the disdain some of them show for me -- which they generally admit is the orthodox opinion -- I think it shows their mentality. I was hoping there might be more orthodox Christians on SA, but it seems you have all done a good job at keeping them out, which I imagine is because you are all really open-minded and progressive.

quote:

Anyway, here's a few thoughts on poverty. Instead of promoting state socialism and hating on Republicans, maybe you should go out and talk to a homeless person? Maybe give them a few bucks. Let's discuss our experiences with talking to the poor recently.

I talked to a guy on the street the other day who told me he has a wealthy sister. I asked him why he doesn't ask her for help? He was evasive. I told him that he should try to reconcile with his sister and that he was being proud. That he would rather live on the street than go to her with hat in hand. He rejected the idea.

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Then he asked me to let him stay the night at my place, which I refused. Remember: never give them anything more than you have originally set out to. They will try to manipulate you. If you decide later you want to help them more, then you can come back later.

somebody posted:

If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back.

i wonder who this is? posted:

If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

SedanChair posted:

They're not intrepid enough. I swear, this patheticness in the followers of Christ nowadays. You used to celebrate when bored legionaries would push a spear into you; now snide posts about Marxism are enough to keep you away. Maybe Jesus was a bullshitter, if his believers have slinked off like this. Maybe they think Jesus was just a crazy man and they're afraid of getting too into it.

quote:

He doesn't have a wealthy sister. One thing you learn working with the homeless is that some people will never admit they don't have a place to turn, that only pride is keeping them from turning to.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Kyrie eleison posted:

Also, lots of them get banned, as their gimmick is not welcome here.


Wow... you cracked the case! He's a liar! Hehehe. Oh you silly billy. He even gave me details, she's a doctor and makes tons of money!


Annnnnd, I ask again, do you take homeless people into your residence?

Kyrie eleison posted:

Wow... you cracked the case! He's a liar! Hehehe. Oh you silly billy. He even gave me details, she's a doctor and makes tons of money!

Kyrie eleison posted:

Annnnnd, I ask again, do you take homeless people into your residence?

Kyrie eleison posted:

So is anyone else going to contribute? What have you all done for the poor lately? Let's discuss our attempts at Christian outreach. The last shall be first and the first shall be last.

Some guy named Matt, probably a perfidious Jew posted:

“Beware of practicing your piety before others in order to be seen by them; for then you have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So whenever you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be praised by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. 3 But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your alms may be done in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

5 “And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. 6 But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

GreyPowerVan posted:

Yes, actually.

Kyrie eleison posted:

Wow... you cracked the case! He's a liar! Hehehe. Oh you silly billy. He even gave me details, she's a doctor and makes tons of money!


Annnnnd, I ask again, do you take homeless people into your residence?

Nessus posted:

Kyrie eleison posted:

That's about doing it to proclaim how great you are. I just want us to discuss our experiences with helping the poor so we can all go about it better. I don't think it was Jesus's intention to forbid all discussion of charitable giving, and that certainly isn't the Catholic interpretation, which actively organizes communal charity work.

Kyrie eleison posted:

That's about doing it to proclaim how great you are. I just want us to discuss our experiences with helping the poor so we can all go about it better. I don't think it was Jesus's intention to forbid all discussion of charitable giving, and that certainly isn't the Catholic interpretation, which actively organizes communal charity work.