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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Asimo posted:

Advanced Obelisk.
The $200 ship that isn't a ridiculous pay to win ship? Of course, of course.

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faxmachine
Apr 1, 2007

Oh yeah....

Time to round up a fumigation squad?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Asimo posted:

Advanced Obelisk.

It's two bad decisions wrapped up in the same ship!

Berke Negri posted:

The $200 ship that isn't a ridiculous pay to win ship? Of course, of course.

Actually you'd be surprised how many so-called P2W ships in STO are actually utter garbage. Don't get me wrong - they absolutely exist, but just because someone spends hundreds of dollars on lobi doesn't mean they won't decide to buy an overpriced swirly dog turd.

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Feb 9, 2015

BombermanX
Jan 13, 2011

I'm afraid of other people's opinions when they differ from my own. Please do not hurt my feelings.

hakimashou posted:

You wouldn't think it would, but this thread delivers :d

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1370631

Someone posted about Andoria. I am being triggered.

Atrayonis
Jul 6, 2008

Godspeed, brave canary
STO is and remains unplayable due to the sheer choking lag.
Tried to run a Bug Hunt right now and was alterating between twitching in place, hitting buttons in the hope that something connects, and dying of something I didn't even see.

And then afterwards I got promptly booted from the game.

At this point I don't know why I'm still trying.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Lag actually seemed improved for me this weekend. Was even able to actually start consistently succeeding in pugs, maybe people are back for the dil week and quality of pugs got better.

BHE is still a crap shoot. We even had a goon group fail over the weekend running it.

Honestly if they're going to keep making ground and space more and more demanding were going to need separate trait loadouts specific to each. Having to swap out nine traits anytime I decide to want to go to ground or space leaves me just sticking to one region over the other and I bet a lot of terrible pugs on ground are just people not bothering to change traits.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Maybe after a few months of play I'll be bitching with the rest of you, but right now I'm having fun :v:

So when do I replace my starter ship as a Klingon? (just killed a bunch of rommies in a farm)

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
Every 10 levels till 40, same as the Feds.

DonDoodles
Aug 18, 2010

by general anime

SirPhoebos posted:

Maybe after a few months of play I'll be bitching with the rest of you, but right now I'm having fun :v:

So when do I replace my starter ship as a Klingon? (just killed a bunch of rommies in a farm)

One you find something to bitch about, consider yourself initiated. Only then will you truly be a grizzled veteran STO player.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

DonDoodles posted:

One you find something to bitch about, consider yourself initiated. Only then will you truly be a grizzled veteran STO player.
My guess is that he'll start bitching right about the time he realizes exactly how much XP it takes to level up after 50.

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


More leaks, not much new info. Still waiting on IQ Fleet to provide some of this info we've had for how many months now? :v:

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax
Here's all of them on one page. So you only have to click one link.

http://imgur.com/a/4pvTo

I don't mind being hush hush about things but it's been out there 2 days, hardly anything to keep under lock and key.

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Cyberball 2072 posted:

Here's all of them on one page. So you only have to click one link.

http://imgur.com/a/4pvTo

I don't mind being hush hush about things but it's been out there 2 days, hardly anything to keep under lock and key.

Oh for sure, this particular poo poo is common knowledge by now. Expect a blog post about these next week with release dates etc.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Cyberball 2072 posted:

Here's all of them on one page. So you only have to click one link.

http://imgur.com/a/4pvTo

I don't mind being hush hush about things but it's been out there 2 days, hardly anything to keep under lock and key.

Fed ships are massively over-designed. Put out a Command Carrier Cryptic, ffs. What is the point of the spec if not for buffing fighters?

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Korgan posted:

Oh for sure, this particular poo poo is common knowledge by now. Expect a blog post about these next week with release dates etc.

Announcement tomorrow, according to a post on reddit.

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax
So...... How but that last KDF ship? It's like a Vo'Quv hosed ugly. Most of those ships are kinda terrible, why do all the fed ships have that awful loving tail?

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


SKY COQ posted:

Announcement tomorrow, according to a post on reddit.

Actually that'd make sense, I thought today was loving Thursday for some reason. :hurr:


Cyberball 2072 posted:

So...... How but that last KDF ship? It's like a Vo'Quv hosed ugly. Most of those ships are kinda terrible, why do all the fed ships have that awful loving tail?

The KDF ships are a loving joke, they look like some 90's era PC game ship where they didn't want to bother with too many angles.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Korgan posted:

The KDF ships are a loving joke, they look like some 90's era PC game ship where they didn't want to bother with too many angles.

Yeah the Roms are pretty much the only winners here, those ships are really nice.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




All totally terrible except for this:



Which I am loving.

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax
I dig the look of the Rom ship that didn't get a solo shot, up-swept wings are always cool. Most of the KDF stuff looks like generic cargo transports from X-wing, just a slight bit more detail. I almost hate to say it and give anyone an excuse to be lazy but most fed ships go way too far with the idea, I'd be happy with it all being slight variations of the Galaxy and Excelsior but I can understand people want ships that stand out.



I was going to make a joke where I posted ships from wing commander and x wing and said they were new KDF ships announced but even despite the 1992-6 graphics they all looked kinda cool. Even when I looked up descent I was like, nope, those are actually kinda cool.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Just delete the Luna class and re-release them as the Command Ships, nobody'll notice and it looks way less dumb.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

MikeJF posted:

Just delete the Luna class and re-release them as the Command Ships, nobody'll notice and it looks way less dumb.

Honestly with Command, thematically, you've got two options. Release upgraded versions of the flagships (Odyssey, Bortas, Scimitar) as actual command flagships, or focus on fighter command and make it a pet specialisation, releasing carriers to support. Naturally, Cryptic did neither.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
I like the rom one with the really swept forward wings.

And the blocky retarded kdf one.

Goat Pillager
Mar 1, 2013
Oddly I quite like all the fed ones, they have a sort of Oberth vibe to them

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug
Those poor klank ships, what have they done to them!?!

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Aleth posted:

Those poor klank ships, what have they done to them!?!

They are pregnant with bleached Orion headmate babies

RescueFreak
Sep 8, 2013

Aleth posted:

Those poor klank ships, what have they done to them!?!

I'm guessing the artist really likes Starcraft.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
That's not Cryptic's fault though:
That's already a bad Klingon design

The other ships look very Klingon Academy era Klank designs, which are awesome. Especially the Quad Nacelle with the two tighter together ones top and the traditional winglet ones bottom.

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

RescueFreak posted:

I'm guessing the artist really likes Starcraft.



But that's what we have the Bortasqu' for.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Also the Qu'Daj.



But I mean it could be argued that the Battlecruiser originally lifted a lot from Klingon ships in TNG and DS9.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
I like all the klink ships to be honest.

They look klingon, they look plausibly star trekky.

Compare and contrast with the fed intel poo poo.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


So are these all going to be cruisers or what?

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
I'm wondering if the reason there's no command carrier is that they're planning a specific "Wing Leader" or something specialization that buffs fighters specifically.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


I guess what I mean is since command is so torpedo focused (from what I can tell) aren't crusiers pretty lousy for torpedos?

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
Yeah all the good torps have a 90 degree arc and are awkward on any beam array build. The other issue is that cruisers don't really have enough tac skills so running a torp effectively almost always means giving up an attack pattern.

BombermanX
Jan 13, 2011

I'm afraid of other people's opinions when they differ from my own. Please do not hurt my feelings.
Whats the nazi episode? I bet I could make one that is based off of it, but without nazis. Maybe Andorians.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
There's actually at least three Nazi episodes.

The Original Series episode, a two parter on Voyager with Hirogen running a WWII sim on the holodeck and an Enterprise two-parter. So you got plenty of canonical reasons to have aliens running around in SS uniforms.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


First official details on command ships:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9066073-tier-6-command-ships

All nine of them can be yours for $120.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Berke Negri posted:

First official details on command ships:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9066073-tier-6-command-ships

All nine of them can be yours for $120.

gently caress me, they're flight deck cruisers.

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Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


oh boy oh boy ugly ships you can use lovely skills on designed for a torpedo focused spec they'll be poo poo at yaaay

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