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Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
Edit:

I'm 100% sure it's a scam. I'm just deleting this post.

Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Feb 10, 2015

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necrobobsledder
Mar 21, 2005
Lay down your soul to the gods rock 'n roll
Nap Ghost

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

RNG's are actually kind of hard to program correctly, but meh.
PRNGs are kind of hard to program, but they are not exactly things that require best of breed programmers to get right. Them truncating the seed is a pretty careless implementation error and not getting them right is a SERIOUS issue when it comes to every other secure communications protocol as well. These things go out the door a lot in the games industry but in my line of work that kind of mistake gets you fired (because your software will fail audits, immediately, and cost millions at least).

With that said, trying to synchronize these RNG seeds across every squad across massive hardware diversity, make it performant, and try to avoid a lot of exploitation problems that are inherent to distributed and publicly accessible systems is a technical challenge that is very, very difficult to do with the aggressive release timeline that DE has delivered for two years now. It's one thing to be able to do this locked in an office over a year or two, but DE has been playing their own release schedule game that is extremely taxing upon everyone with a theoretically better product in the end.

Ferrovanadium
Mar 22, 2013

APEX PREDATOR

-MOST AMMUNITION EXPENDED ON CIVILIANS 2015-PRESENT
-WORST KDR VS CIVILIANS 2015-PRESENT

I'm not getting energy pickups anymore. I've seen maybe three in the past twelve missions I've played.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

Denzine posted:

The problem was, according to [DE]Drew(aka Grineeer{i think}), the seed was truncated severely. When using it to output white/black pixels in a 32x32 grid it made a lovely wave pattern.

Drew is not Grineeer, Grineeer is Scott.

Note that the broken RNG was the 'fast' RNG method, which was used for drops (IIRC) among other things but not mission rewards (which used the slow RNG since it didn't need to generate a dozen random numbers per frame).
The fast RNG got fixed and the new coding was backported to the slow RNG as well, IIRC.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

hooah posted:

Stepping away from lore chat for a bit, I feel like I don't entirely understand the circumstances to get the stealth XP bonuses. I was going around with Loki and my Dread, and sometimes I would get the bonus, but if I accidentally got detected, I wouldn't get the bonus (duh), even after I had killed everyone in that room/adjacent rooms and gone a ways away. I mean, I was shooting guys who were just standing there, not taking a combat stance or anything, but no bonus. What gives?

I haven't had that issue since I just kill'em all and wait for new ones to respawn but I think they don't reset to idle status even after they put their guns down.
Or maybe it was the alarm? I think the alarm automatically puts everyone in alert state.

--

One thing about stealth kills: The prompt shows up based on your frame's position relative to the enemy, but the animation is based on the camera's facing. This means you can manipulate the location of the stealth kill to avoid touching other enemies. Another thing: Their cones of vision are ridiculously small and narrow when idle. I've killed dudes literally next to each other.

Oh, and enemies in cover have their prompt around their shoulder furthest from the wall they're hugging.

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Naturally Selected posted:

If they ever saw a dead body/heard gunfire, you won't get the bonus. There's also an insta-detection thing where if you skewer two or three targets at once, the first one will count as stealth while the others will "detect" the dead body+arrow flying towards them and not count as stealth kills. Bows end up kinda sucking because of that-if the arrow launches a corpse through other enemies' LOS, they go into alert mode instantly, even if they don't actually do the animation.
I've multi stealth killed with the Dread a bunch of times though. I think I was shooting from the side.
And dead bodies don't trigger alert, I can confirm this from all the crowds I've murdered. I think watching the murder alerts them, though.

E: gently caress forgot I'd already posted.

Kyte fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 10, 2015

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

So which weapons have pretty fast stealth kill animations? As much as I love hacking dudes heads off with the dual cleavers, their animation is kind of slow.

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Denzine posted:

The problem was, according to [DE]Drew(aka Grineeer{i think}), the seed was truncated severely. When using it to output white/black pixels in a 32x32 grid it made a lovely wave pattern.
It was Steve who made the post (here), and Glen who actually identified and fixed the issue.

Denzine
Sep 2, 2011

One time, I did a thing.

Kyte posted:

Drew is not Grineeer, Grineeer is Scott.

gently caress

Helter Skelter posted:

It was Steve who made the post (here), and Glen who actually identified and fixed the issue.

quote:

Glen (our Tech Director) identified and fixed a serious distribution flaw with random number generation (RNG) in Warframe. While enemy drops were not seriously affected, a truncation in the random 'seed' within the mission reward script could result in a terrible chain of bad luck. While some players may have benefited from this (a chain of good luck) the distribution was terrible.

double gently caress

I'm probably gonna forget all this again by tomorrow too

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

SynthOrange posted:

So which weapons have pretty fast stealth kill animations? As much as I love hacking dudes heads off with the dual cleavers, their animation is kind of slow.

I think single swords have pretty fast animations?
Personally I just snipe everything with the Redeemer. It's hilariously powerful for this. Just make sure to not get too close 'cause it does little to no damage at short range.

tlarn
Mar 1, 2013

You see,
God doesn't help little frogs.

He helps people like me.
Just wanna remind folks to not take the lore too seriously and have fun with it because the lore with warframes is that they are effectively EVA Units from Neon Genesis Evangelion and I'm still tickled pink over it. :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbksWvNv-fU

tlarn
Mar 1, 2013

You see,
God doesn't help little frogs.

He helps people like me.
Like the more you know about Evangelion and the more you apply it to warframe's lore, it makes more and more sense and it all becomes dumber and it's a loving beautiful feeling, I love these nerds that make this awful/wonderful game

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


So what you're saying is that I need to make Saryn's energy orange to make people explode into Tang every time I press 4?

tlarn
Mar 1, 2013

You see,
God doesn't help little frogs.

He helps people like me.

SSNeoman posted:

So what you're saying is that I need to make Saryn's energy orange to make people explode into Tang every time I press 4?

Hydroid is the master of the Tang.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.

tlarn posted:

Just wanna remind folks to not take the lore too seriously and have fun with it because the lore with warframes is that they are effectively EVA Units from Neon Genesis Evangelion and I'm still tickled pink over it. :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbksWvNv-fU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocmzDO-vBR8

This is pretty much how I feel when I play Valkyr :v:

Doctor Shapes
Mar 17, 2009

Ask and ye shall receive.
It's nice to see that the rare 5 core packs are back.

And on the Amprex: It's gonna absolutely chew through ammo if your mods aren't good or you don't have many formas in. With both, though, you can drop ammo mutation because it becomes pretty ammo efficient as far as killing goes. It's a lot of grinding but it pays off.

RoyalScion
May 16, 2009
Just spam ammo packs, don't waste a mod slot on ammo stuff when you can just get bigger numbers.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Oh and again about valkyr weapons, since the scindo is a pain in the rear end to get and will probably take me a while, what would perform better, the dual ichors, the whips, or the nikana/soon to be dragon nikana? Also had decent luck with my dual zorens so far.

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer

Nalesh posted:

Oh and again about valkyr weapons, since the scindo is a pain in the rear end to get and will probably take me a while, what would perform better, the dual ichors, the whips, or the nikana/soon to be dragon nikana? Also had decent luck with my dual zorens so far.

Whatever has the highest base damage, crit chance and crit damage.

Normal attacks, slide attacks, wall attacks, ground finishers, and prompted finishers deal 300 base damage + 125% / 140% / 160% / 175% of the equipped melee weapon's base damage.

Mods that affect base damage (Pressure Point, Spoiled Strike, Syndicate Weapon Augments and Steel Charge) are the only melee mods that can increase the Hysteria Weapon's damage. As an example, a melee weapon with 30 base damage, +60% damage from Steel Charge, and +30% power strength will deal 300 + 1.75*1.3*30*1.6 = 409.2 damage.

Hysteria's attacks have an innate critical chance of 25%: a 10% chance for a critical damage multiplier of 100%, and a 15% chance for a critical damage multiplier of 200%. The critical damage and critical chance of the equipped melee weapon stack with those of Hysteria: additively for critical chance, and multiplicatively for critical damage.

Mods that increase the critical chance/damage of the melee weapon will affect Hysteria (i.e., Organ Shatter and True Steel). As an example, Dual Cleavers have a critical chance of 40% and a 570% critical damage multiplier with a maxed Organ Shatter and True Steel. With this weapon equipped, Hysteria's critical chance will be increased to 0.25 + 0.4 = 65%. This would imply a (0.1/0.25)*0.65 = 26% chance for 1*5.7 = 570% critical damage and a (0.15/0.25)*0.65 = 39% chance for 2*5.7 = 1140% critical damage.

Summary of Mods that Affect the Hysteria Weapon

Melee Mods

Pressure Point
Spoiled Strike (Doesn't affect Hysteria attack speed)
True Steel
Organ Shatter
Berserker (If stacks are gained before Hysteria is activated)
Smite Corpus, Smite Grineer and Smite Infested (Only applies to the secondary damage of slam attacks)
Blade of Truth, Bright Purity, Justice Blades, Toxic Blight

Warframe Mods

Steel Charge
Intensify
Blind Rage
Transient Fortitude

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

SynthOrange posted:

'Orokin' is a corruption of Otherkin. Tenno are fursona costumes taken to ridiculous extremes.

Well, we ARE getting a dragon frame.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

tlarn posted:

Like the more you know about Evangelion and the more you apply it to warframe's lore, it makes more and more sense and it all becomes dumber and it's a loving beautiful feeling, I love these nerds that make this awful/wonderful game

So which male frame is Shinji, and which female frame is Rei? And how do we contact that guy that makes Warframe porn to re-do that scene where Shinji jacks off onto Rei with Warframes? :anime: :gizz:

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

BeAuMaN posted:

So which male frame is Shinji, and which female frame is Rei? And how do we contact that guy that makes Warframe porn to re-do that scene where Shinji jacks off onto Rei with Warframes? :anime: :gizz:

Every time I learn something more about Evangelion it sounds stupider and stupider.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.

Sandweed posted:

Every time I learn something more about Evangelion it sounds stupider and stupider.

It really is worth a watch just to laugh at that some guys drug induced writing with random cool sounding words thrown in is fooling hipsters thinking it's ~deep~

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Sandweed posted:

Every time I learn something more about Evangelion it sounds stupider and stupider.

He even jacked off onto her while she was unconscious in the hospital. Yeaaaaaahhhh.... Tbh, it was pretty stupid, but it was a step forward for Big Giant Robot Anime much like The Dark Knight was a step forward for... Heroic Action Movies or whatever? It was dark when most Big Giant Robot Anime were mostly Friendship is Magic and power-of-the-month type of thing. And then everyone started overdoing the gently caress out of trying to be edgy or depressing or whatever, and so the same studio (Gainax) that did Evangelion did Toppa Tengen Guren Lagann which was pretty much the the antithesis of Evangelion, and it was pretty awesome. Hell, it was amazing that Gainax didn't run out of money this time. Or at least that's the narrative that I tell myself.

In fact, Evangelion and TTGL should be viewed as a set. But perhaps I'm getting off-topic. We were talking about Warframe Porn Re-enacting Lewd Scenes in a Post-Modernism Attempt At Giant Robot Anime, weren't we?

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Nalesh posted:

It really is worth a watch just to laugh at that some guys drug induced writing with random cool sounding words thrown in is fooling hipsters thinking it's ~deep~

It's less drug induced and more that he literally had a mental breakdown partway though the (first) series :smith:

He got better though :unsmith:

BeAuMaN posted:

In fact, Evangelion and TTGL should be viewed as a set. But perhaps I'm getting off-topic.

The hell are you smoking? TTGL shouldn't be placed anywhere near NGE. Even Simon at his whiniest is much more tolerable than Shinji.

Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Feb 10, 2015

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

BeAuMaN posted:

He even jacked off onto her while she was unconscious in the hospital. Yeaaaaaahhhh.... Tbh, it was pretty stupid, but it was a step forward for Big Giant Robot Anime much like The Dark Knight was a step forward for... Heroic Action Movies or whatever? It was dark when most Big Giant Robot Anime were mostly Friendship is Magic and power-of-the-month type of thing. And then everyone started overdoing the gently caress out of trying to be edgy or depressing or whatever, and so the same studio (Gainax) that did Evangelion did Toppa Tengen Guren Lagann which was pretty much the the antithesis of Evangelion, and it was pretty awesome. Hell, it was amazing that Gainax didn't run out of money this time. Or at least that's the narrative that I tell myself.

In fact, Evangelion and TTGL should be viewed as a set. But perhaps I'm getting off-topic. We were talking about Warframe Porn Re-enacting Lewd Scenes in a Post-Modernism Attempt At Giant Robot Anime, weren't we?

TTGL is basically a summary of giant robot anime; you have the monster-of-the-week 80s, the 'everything is sad and depressing' 90s, the 'politics everywhere' 00s, and then at the end it goes off and does its own thing.

Anyway, if Warframe is anything it's Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. Raiden is Valkyr, Mistral is Saryn, Monsoon is Volt, Sam is Excalibur, Sundowner is Rhino and Armstrong is Mutalist Alad V (nanospores, son!).

Baller Time
Apr 22, 2014

by Azathoth

SynthOrange posted:

'Orokin' is a corruption of Otherkin. Tenno are fursona costumes taken to ridiculous extremes.

Malatora became real and this is our future

Feindfeuer
Jun 20, 2013

shoot men, receive credits

BeAuMaN posted:

He even jacked off onto her while she was unconscious in the hospital. Yeaaaaaahhhh.... Tbh, it was pretty stupid, but it was a step forward for Big Giant Robot Anime much like The Dark Knight was a step forward for... Heroic Action Movies or whatever? It was dark when most Big Giant Robot Anime were mostly Friendship is Magic and power-of-the-month type of thing. And then everyone started overdoing the gently caress out of trying to be edgy or depressing or whatever, and so the same studio (Gainax) that did Evangelion did Toppa Tengen Guren Lagann which was pretty much the the antithesis of Evangelion, and it was pretty awesome. Hell, it was amazing that Gainax didn't run out of money this time. Or at least that's the narrative that I tell myself.

In fact, Evangelion and TTGL should be viewed as a set. But perhaps I'm getting off-topic. We were talking about Warframe Porn Re-enacting Lewd Scenes in a Post-Modernism Attempt At Giant Robot Anime, weren't we?

Early Mobile Suit Gundam series are very low-tech, depressing and show a suprising neutral view on the war with both sides having relatable characters, that goes on up until MS team 06 which is basically a korea/vietnam war series with giant robots and was released just a few months after the perver pilot bio-bot evangelion. Not saying that I didn't like... well.. found Neon Genesis Evangelion interesting the first and only time i watched it, but it didn't invent the big giant robot anime can be sad, brutal and devestating genre.
Also Gundam is often stupid and retarded, too. Don't watch it unless you're drunk... plus it's much less warframe related as I have to admit, when I saw the first promo shots before applying to the closed beta, I thought; that dude looks like a tiny version of that anime bio robot from the movies with the disturbed kiddy pilots.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Malachite_Dragon posted:

The hell are you smoking? TTGL shouldn't be placed anywhere near NGE. Even Simon at his whiniest is much more tolerable than Shinji.

For contrast primarily. As I said, TTGL is pretty much anti-thesis of Evangelion, and the fact that they were both put out by the same studio is pretty interesting.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
I want to dunk Shinji's head in a toilet. Holy poo poo his whining is annoying.

BeAuMaN posted:

For contrast primarily. As I said, TTGL is pretty much anti-thesis of Evangelion, and the fact that they were both put out by the same studio is pretty interesting.

It helps that the director didn't, y'know, have a breakdown partway through TTGL.

Feindfeuer
Jun 20, 2013

shoot men, receive credits

Malachite_Dragon posted:

I want to dunk Shinji's head in a toilet. Holy poo poo his whining is annoying.

Has been years since I watched it, but the urge is still strong every time I get reminded of his existance.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
I don't know what's worse, anime or lore chat :v:

Besides everyone knows the biggest art piece of the decade is Heavy Rain.

Harrower
Nov 30, 2002
Just a little helpful reminder that all anime belongs in the trash.

Ruby Prism
Aug 7, 2011

With this, I'll be able to make the ultimate pie!

Nalesh posted:

It really is worth a watch just to laugh at that some guys drug induced writing with random cool sounding words thrown in is fooling hipsters thinking it's ~deep~

Hipsters? Wha?

And yeah, Hideaki Anno has admitted that most of the christian, cabalistic and esoteric imagery and terms were picked simply because they sounded cool. Although parts of End of Evangelion, as heavy-handed as it is do make some sense within the framework they created. (In a pretty shallow way, of course. Almost like someone reading through the esoteric section in Wikipedia.)

Ruby Prism fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Feb 10, 2015

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

Azran posted:

I don't know what's worse, anime or lore chat :v:

Look, Nova has the best rear end, ok?

Ruby Prism
Aug 7, 2011

With this, I'll be able to make the ultimate pie!

Kokoro Wish posted:

Look, Nova has the best rear end, ok?

Just you wait until the inevitable donkeyframe.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Kokoro Wish posted:

Look, Nova has the best rear end, ok?

That's a weird way to spell Excalibur.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Honestly appealing to furries is a really good idea because they are a gold mine. See: Five bights at freddy's

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Sandweed posted:

That's a weird way to spell Excalibur.

Rhino, you heinie-heathens. An rear end so tight you could bounce a quarter off of it with enough force to kill a Kubrow *and* codpiece for days. :whatup:

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

BeAuMaN posted:

So which male frame is Shinji, and which female frame is Rei? And how do we contact that guy that makes Warframe porn to re-do that scene where Shinji jacks off onto Rei with Warframes? :anime: :gizz:

That was Asuka, not Rei.


Uh, something about Warframe...the new spy mission has been a ton of fun, and so I've been using it as an excuse to pump a few forma into my Paris Prime. Oh and you can definitely keep your stealth kill bonus with multiple punch through kills in one shot so long as you get them all in the back. I've shot the bonus right up to 300% by stacking three guys onto a wall like a vertically oriented plate of armored pancakes.

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Baller Time
Apr 22, 2014

by Azathoth
Alternatively, put Primed Reach on Jat Kittag and get 5 stealth kills with one swing

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