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Carbon dioxide posted:Chemistry is really very simple. It works like this: *= Especially if they are German.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Chemistry is really very simple. It works like this: That chemist's successor publishes the results posthumously.
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 19:58 |
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You'd be surprised the nutty poo poo you can do with molecular bonds once you get a substance hot enough/enough pressure.
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 20:05 |
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So are explosives mostly just the chemical equivalents of Prince Rupert's drops?
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 20:18 |
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insta posted:So are explosives mostly just the chemical equivalents of Prince Rupert's drops?
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 20:25 |
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Collateral Damage posted:"Things That Suddenly Want To Turn Back Into Elemental Nitrogen" I feel like your username is very appropriate right now, to describe the effects of things turning back into elemental nitrogen.
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 20:40 |
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Collateral Damage posted:"Things That Suddenly Want To Turn Back Into Elemental Nitrogen" "What are the most exciting things to watch someone else synthesize from a safe distance?"
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 20:53 |
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Collateral Damage posted:"Things That Suddenly Want To Turn Back Into Elemental Nitrogen" *things that really want to break down into gases.* Peroxides can be explosive too. Or even things that react and heat up so fast they expand the gases around them catastrophically. But as for OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:Would Fl3ClO2 burn a substance such as C4N2 hotter than pure O2? Energy released/taken in depends on energy diff between reactants and products. Fl3ClO2 ...Yup looks like more bond energy than O2. The answer is most definitely, but I wouldn't want to be there for uhh... let's call it empirical testing.
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 20:56 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:*things that really want to break down into gases.* This is clearly a job for a bomb calorimeter.
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# ? Feb 10, 2015 21:46 |
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Deteriorata posted:This is clearly a job for a bomb calorimeter. But that wont measure the energy given off from the reaction of pure Trifluoro terror oxidizer with Carbon subnitride. Since Bomb Calorimeters measure energy of combustion in oxygen. Unless you are suggesting replacing Oxygen with one of the two. Which requires one of either to be in excess. Yeah good luck I'll be in the Bahamas observing the mushroom cloud at a safe distance.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 00:14 |
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I'd expect nothing less from a bomb calorimeter.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 00:42 |
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Any educated guesses on just how much hotter it would burn?
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 01:01 |
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so, how exactly would you make an engine using that hellish concoction when it would melt loving tungsten?
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 03:35 |
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A White Guy posted:so, how exactly would you make an engine using that hellish concoction when it would melt loving tungsten? Well you see the engine itself is made of TNT which stabilizes the compounds, furthermore...
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 03:54 |
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A White Guy posted:so, how exactly would you make an engine using that hellish concoction when it would melt loving tungsten? The engine itself burning and being ejected is part of the design.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 03:56 |
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A White Guy posted:so, how exactly would you make an engine using that hellish concoction when it would melt loving tungsten? Ablatively-cooled nozzle?
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:05 |
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New Things I Won't Work With! http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/10/10/things_i_wont_work_with_peroxide_peroxides.php (unless I'm late and someone else already linked it. Regardless, HO3H and friends are things I want nothing to do with. He mentions an HOOOOO- anion that looks pretty malevolent as well.)
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:05 |
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jetz0r posted:The engine itself burning and being ejected is part of the design. Oh so it's just a component-rich-exhaust, no worries then. Will it have a lithobraking system to arrest forward movement as well?
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:09 |
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Memento posted:Oh so it's just a component-rich-exhaust, no worries then. Will it have a lithobraking system to arrest forward movement as well?
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:18 |
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Memento posted:Oh so it's just a component-rich-exhaust, no worries then. Will it have a lithobraking system to arrest forward movement as well? Lithobraking is always an option for experimental rockets. That and sudden midair disassembly, which sounds much more likely with this concept.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:27 |
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Collateral Damage posted:It's just a hybrid engine. The engine bell is part of the fuel. It's part of the reaction mass. It's a
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:38 |
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TerryLennox posted:It's part of the reaction mass. It's a And just think about the places they would have gone. The water table, the food chain, the ozone layer - the sky's the limit!
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:46 |
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kastein posted:He mentions an HOOOOO- anion that looks pretty malevolent as well.) is that the sound you make when you realize you've synthesized it
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:50 |
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Tollymain posted:is that the sound you make when you realize you've synthesized it I would think that, or oh poo poo run.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 04:51 |
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Collateral Damage posted:"Things That Suddenly Want To Turn Back Into Elemental Nitrogen" Nitrogen just wants to be freeeeeee!* *violently and messily all over the place
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 07:50 |
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Kwyndig posted:I would think that, or oh poo poo run. Its about as far as you get into Holy poo poo, before it explodes in your face
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 08:15 |
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Kwyndig posted:That and sudden midair disassembly, which sounds much more likely with this concept. i prefer the term "impromptu lateral staging"
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 09:04 |
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So if you can go from HOOH to HOOOH, you can make FOOOF too, right?
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 09:13 |
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Can: probably. Should: most emphatically not.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 09:31 |
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Mikl posted:Can: probably. coward talk
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 11:32 |
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jamal posted:So if you can go from HOOH to HOOOH, you can make FOOOF too, right? Glad I'm not the only one who immediately considered that. I wouldn't recommend it, TBH. If you do, consider trying out the FOOOOO- ion, too.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 14:32 |
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insta posted:So are explosives mostly just the chemical equivalents of Prince Rupert's drops? That seems like a reasonable comparison for most of the "Now with even more Nitrogen"-compounds, yes ... apart from the part where the drops are fairly robust (except for the tail).
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 14:51 |
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I'd watch a tv show where people create crazy chemicals and test them
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 14:55 |
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I'm so glad I'm not a chemist. It's fascinating stuff (from a physics point of view) but the stuff you work with is nuts.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 16:50 |
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Tollymain posted:coward talk "Still has all ten fingers" talk, thank you very much
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 17:17 |
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Luneshot posted:I'm so glad I'm not a chemist. It's fascinating stuff (from a physics point of view) but the stuff you work with is nuts. I really wanted to do chemistry as a college student, but realised that even conc HCL scared the poo poo out of me (I'm that guy that burned his nose hair accidentally getting a whiff of it), and went off to do physics and maths instead. This was an entirely good decision.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 17:44 |
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Luneshot posted:I'm so glad I'm not a chemist. It's fascinating stuff (from a physics point of view) but the stuff you work with is nuts. The overwhelming majority of chemistry is fairly mundane. Its the weird experimental stuff where you start trying to see how many angry atoms you can shove together without dying.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 17:52 |
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I have a degree in chemical engineering. My internship consisted of working in a plant that could produce millions of gallons of oleum per day. I do not currently work in my field because of my cowardice with working with that kind of absolutely terrifying poo poo.
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# ? Feb 11, 2015 18:34 |
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I have a degree in chemical engineering. My internship consisted of working in a plant that could produce millions of gallons of oleum per day. I do not currently work in my field because of my cowardice with working with that kind of absolutely terrifying poo poo. That's weak poo poo compared to a lot of chemical manufacturing reagents. Hell you can transport that stuff as a solid and be OK. The real nasty ones are produced and consumed inline on site. Vinyl chloride, the precursor for PVC, for example generally doesn't leave a facility.
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We were working with tank cars full of the boiling version. I agree that many precursors make oleum seem like amateur hour though. It still scared the poo poo out of me, especially after we had a pressure fitting fail and the spill proceeded to dissolve part of the factory floor (Not set it on fire, note. Just turn the tile to sludge and corrode everything metallic). No deaths or injuries and the spill was contained, but it could have been so much much worse. While it was happening it was pretty loving intense.
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