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Memento posted:There was a Shawn/HHH Last Man Standing match that went to a draw at the Rumble in 2004. They'd never do that today, because I remember it being an utter bloodbath, but Reigns having some real knock-down drag-out wars would certainly go a long way towards establishing his credibility. I'll have to watch this, I have a gap in my wwe watching from 2002-2011
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Zyla posted:I'll have to watch this, I have a gap in my wwe watching from 2002-2011 Don't watch this match. It's a bad match. It's like 45 minutes long and the last 20 minutes is just Shawn and HHH lying there bleeding on each other.
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so is there a reason why WOL hasn't put anything on their iTunes feed for like 3 weeks?
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The Goog posted:Don't watch this match. It's a bad match. It's like 45 minutes long and the last 20 minutes is just Shawn and HHH lying there bleeding on each other. in fact avoid any 2004 triple h/michaels match that don't also include benoit
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Feb 12, 2015 05:50
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Daniel Bryan posted:Bryan is on vacation which means everything usual is thrown out until he's back But I need my fill of lovely Saturday WOL shows where everyone who calls in just plugs their lovely indy shows!
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Daniel Bryan posted:Bryan is on vacation which means everything usual is thrown out until he's back he saw a bitchin' whale tho!
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Zyla posted:he saw a bitchin' whale tho! Update: he ate a steak
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Feb 12, 2015 05:56
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:in fact avoid any 2004 triple h/michaels match that don't also include benoit actually watch their 47 minute hell in a cell match at bad blood 04 and know true misery
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Feb 12, 2015 05:58
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:actually watch their 47 minute hell in a cell match at bad blood 04 and know true misery oh my god why
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Zyla posted:oh my god why the unstoppable ego meets the immovable ego
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Feb 12, 2015 06:02
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Zyla posted:oh my god why I've seen it and I wanna drag everyone down with me
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:I've seen it and I wanna drag everyone down with me I'm  ing just thinking about it
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Feb 12, 2015 06:19
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Jericho's podcast with Shawn Michaels is really fun to listen to, Shawn's talking about goats on the gas 
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The Goog posted:Don't watch this match. It's a bad match. It's like 45 minutes long and the last 20 minutes is just Shawn and HHH lying there bleeding on each other. This pretty much describes the entire feud. Has their ever been another feud as pointless and blatantly self-indulgent as the HHH/HBK feud from this period?
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:actually watch their 47 minute hell in a cell match at bad blood 04 and know true misery Somehow this match always makes iot near the top of their "best Hell in a Cell" lists (gee I wonder why) and every time I get a reflexive twitch.
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Feb 12, 2015 11:02
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Switched off recent WOR after two minutes. Two wet blankets and Dave... Murder. Added to the fact that one of the blankets keeps pressing the loving buttons on his loving phone. Come back soon Bryan.
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I really like those shows too but his voice, when introducing a show... Nah.
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Jerusalem posted:Jericho's podcast with Shawn Michaels is really fun to listen to, Shawn's talking about goats on the gas Wait what Tonfa posted:daniel no what
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Dave has a great rant about Darren Young and WWE hypocrisy today if you stick it out. Also Colt calls out indie guys making their own Bullet Club knockoff shirts on AOW.
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njsykora posted:Dave has a great rant about Darren Young and WWE hypocrisy today if you stick it out. Yeah that was good. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but it turns out there are only so many hours I acn listen to podcasts in a week, and with Mike hosting these shows it's officially too many now.
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I feel like Reigns should've had more matches with Orton, and made that a real feud. For all his faults, Orton knows how to pace a match and how to makes someone like Reigns look great. That match is the only time I've really been convinced by Reigns putting in a long stretch, but that's because of the work that Orton does. There's no way that Lesnar could get that out of him.
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DrVenkman posted:I feel like Reigns should've had more matches with Orton, and made that a real feud. For all his faults, Orton knows how to pace a match and how to makes someone like Reigns look great. That match is the only time I've really been convinced by Reigns putting in a long stretch, but that's because of the work that Orton does. There's no way that Lesnar could get that out of him. any series of singles matches with almost anybody who wasn't big show would have helped a lot but wwe pissed that time away
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njsykora posted:Also Colt calls out indie guys making their own Bullet Club knockoff shirts on AOW. Haha god drat that's carnie as gently caress I mean if you're IN the Bullet Club, by all means make your own knockoffs. But otherwise, yeesh
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DrVenkman posted:I feel like Reigns should've had more matches with Orton, and made that a real feud. For all his faults, Orton knows how to pace a match and how to makes someone like Reigns look great. That match is the only time I've really been convinced by Reigns putting in a long stretch, but that's because of the work that Orton does. There's no way that Lesnar could get that out of him. Reigns/Lesnar even as a singles would be laid out meticulously. Obviously, it's better if Bryan's in there, because he can lead and call a match probably better than either of the other two.
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njsykora posted:Dave has a great rant about Darren Young and WWE hypocrisy today if you stick it out. Also Colt calls out indie guys making their own Bullet Club knockoff shirts on AOW. Then how about you stop selling them on PW tees, Colt
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Dave's a good dude. His rant was spot on. Also, man Bryan needs to come back ASAP. I like Mike, but at some points the things he brings up are so obvious it's like I'd rather just hear Dave talk. You don't need to interject with "Yes, I agree with your point, because _________"
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Mike being in Bryan's spot is kind of like how in WWE, Roman getting the big push makes you appreciate Cena
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I assume the Young rant was similar to the bit about it in the Observer, where he talks about it being hypocritical to laud Ernie Ladd for fighting against racism in New Orleans/football, and then squashing a guy speaking out about homophobia and sexism? And the piece about Charlotte/the women's division is one of those things where Dave's absolutely right, but it's so big a risk (or is perceived as one, I don't know that going all in and having the women headline a B-show risks all that much financially, with the Network) that WWE will never do it, even if you could convince Vince and Dunn.
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triplexpac posted:Mike being in Bryan's spot is kind of like how in WWE, Roman getting the big push makes you appreciate Cena Before I subscribed, if you told me I'd be salty about Bryan 'Castrato Cat Enthusiast' Alvarez taking a vacation, I'd have called you a crazy liar, but here we are.
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Spikeguy posted:What exactly was said for those who don't have access to the podcast? Here's his take from the WON. quote:Remember this the next time you hear Cena or Vince talk about WWE and Freedom of Expression. Darren Young on Twitter wrote, about WWE headed to the United Arab Emirates this week: “Why do we bring the best entertainment into a country like Abu Dhabi and they look down upon women and gays? I get it. Millions of dollars” “My freedom of speech is gone. Gone but not forgotten.” “I feel like no one has my back and it upsets me. The struggle is real. I’m human.”
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I really wonder if Mike and Dave could hear Rob *BEEP* McCar*BEEP*ron's phone during that call.
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I can't stop laughing at the Mike and Dave shows because all of Mike's transitions are him going "DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHH" and then going into his next point.
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Big Bob Pataki posted:I can't stop laughing at the Mike and Dave shows because all of Mike's transitions are him going "DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHH" and then going into his next point. I'm amazed that it's been this many shows and he ends every one with "Welp, I'm not sure what will happen going forward... Bryan will be back... someday... maybe he'll do a show with Vinnie?"
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So according to Shawn Michaels (who is also appearing on Austin's podcast next week), the original plan for that brief bit of Bryan/HBK tension last year was for HBK to superkick him the once and then.... that was it. That was literally the entire story as far as WWE was concerned, and Shawn basically told them,"Look I'll come back for another show so he can at least get back at me for this," which is when they did the bit with Bryan putting him into the Yes Lock. Even then he was pissed off at the story because it was never going to go anywhere, and the best that could be salvaged of it was Bryan not being made to look like a chump before it just fizzled out into nothing. It was quite neat to hear him consistently put over THE Brian Kendrick as well. 
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