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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

Exclamation Marx posted:

we're at war btw

sauce?

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bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
at the end of the day, good ol' honest john who id love to have a beer with can declare war between anyone and new ziland i reckon

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

http://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/66148820/Abusive-John-Key-message-substituted-for-address

Barons it looks like your tax return was lost in the mail.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

I saw this an it's amazing. Also the fact they're manhunting for the person. loving Lmao.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



To be fair, the person has taken the precaution of giving a false address to the authorities.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/66142584/iraq-formally-asks-new-zealand-for-military-help

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Slavvy posted:

Satanist spotted, there is no such thing.

please don't troll me wrt black metal, the most serious of musics.


this is actually true

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
what if they held a war
and nobody came
because it was actually a non-combat role involving training troops, logistics, capacity building, intelligence sharing and humanitarian support

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

awesmoe posted:

what if they held a war
and nobody came
because it was actually a non-combat role involving training troops, logistics, capacity building, intelligence sharing and humanitarian support

Doesn't really matter, people will chant 'stand up, fight back' at every protest anyway no matter how ironic it is.

The problem is though if it's such a small role, is it worth possibly making ourselves a target over such a minor contribution.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

Butt Wizard posted:

Doesn't really matter, people will chant 'stand up, fight back' at every protest anyway no matter how ironic it is.
The problem is though if it's such a small role, is it worth possibly making ourselves a target over such a minor contribution.
imo yes but other people might have different o's. isnt democracy great.


ALSO I don't know what's black metal and whats death metal and whats doom metal and what's what but im going to see carcass and napalm death so eff yous all
e: I'm too old to buy their shirts tho

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
Minor contribution? Our troops are going to turn this war around! But then of course we will be humble about it and just have a beer after

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Hey, let's do our part in perpetuating the global imperialist war machine by sending people to do 'humanitarian assistance', 'intelligence sharing', troop training' and other chill euphemisms like that. "im rich bitch" - John Key


awesmoe posted:

im going to see carcass and napalm death so eff yous all
me too

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

awesmoe posted:

ALSO I don't know what's black metal and whats death metal and whats doom metal and what's what but im going to see carcass and napalm death so eff yous all
e: I'm too old to buy their shirts tho

Go to your local KFC, order about five buckets of the $40 value packs. do this every day for six months. Then go to youtube.com, search for 'dragonforce' and then you will understand what it is to be a true metal fan.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I think in the grand scheme of things it is worth standing with our allies against the wrongs of the world, regardless of how incidental they are to us as a nation.


I also think, though, that doing so requires a level of selective participation where maybe the question should be asked if we are not simply contributing to more wrongs by doing so, such as the propping up of the Syrian government and endorsement of Kurdish cleansing that the current struggle with ISIS is causing due to the need for local allies, and there's of course the whole point that the whole Terrorism part of the War on Terrorism has grown out of decades of American interference and exploitation of xenophobia about American interference in the area in the first place, so it's just feeding into a cycle of lovely wars, fallen governments, and retreat into extremism.

There are already nations with non-combat training troops on the ground that are engaging in direct combat because how do you tell people who want to kill you that you're only there to train others to fight them? On top of that, we're going to be training the Iraqi army - an army that's already had years of training and equipment from America and is reportedly still the least effective of all the combatants in the field and the largest source of ISIS arms.

We absolutely should be doing peacekeeping and training missions, but we should be doing them with a holistic view of what regimes and interests, both local and foreign, that our actions are supporting.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Some Timaru grandma is going to activate a file called JohnKey.exe and the GCSB are going to lose their minds.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Butt Wizard posted:

can you legally declare war on something that isn't technically a nation state? I guess all this poo poo got updated post-9/11 to include terror groups but just curious.

Nope. That's the beauty of it. Because you aren't formally declaring war against a nation state, the enemy aren't legally recognised combatants, they're just random dudes with guns and as such the various rules of war (like don't be torturing, don't be using hollow point rounds et al) don't apply.

awesmoe posted:

im going to see carcass and napalm death so eff yous all

Wait you're going to Iraq??

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
so if (when) ISIS attack NZ, how's Jonno Keydawg gonna respond to the families/country?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Slavvy posted:

Nope. That's the beauty of it. Because you aren't formally declaring war against a nation state, the enemy aren't legally recognised combatants, they're just random dudes with guns and as such the various rules of war (like don't be torturing, don't be using hollow point rounds et al) don't apply.

sweet, time to buy phosphorous futures!

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

so if (when) ISIS attack NZ, how's Jonno Keydawg gonna respond to the families/country?

Does Max still play baseball?

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Dear Nz authorities, I hope John Key dies.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Meanwhile, Eminem's lawsuit against the Nats is going to court.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
OT again, but does anyone here have any good liquor-related contacts in Auckland? I'm trying to find a really difficult-to-find Eastern European spirit by tomorrow afternoon.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Butt Wizard posted:

OT again, but does anyone here have any good liquor-related contacts in Auckland? I'm trying to find a really difficult-to-find Eastern European spirit by tomorrow afternoon.

Poss, what is it?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

mirthdefect posted:

Poss, what is it?

It's a type of drink called Rakia, I can only find one brand that's stocked here, something called Sljivovica.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Infotainment! posted:

Dear Nz authorities, I hope John Key dies.

Soon or at a natural rate? *dials 11 and hovers over the 1 key*

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Butt Wizard posted:

It's a type of drink called Rakia, I can only find one brand that's stocked here, something called Sljivovica.

Turns out she only does wines of the sort preferred for cellaring by posh old bastards, hard luck.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

mirthdefect posted:

Turns out she only does wines of the sort preferred for cellaring by posh old bastards, hard luck.

Bugger. Cheers anyway man.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

so if (when) ISIS attack NZ, how's Jonno Keydawg gonna respond to the families/country?

Do you mean nz troops or nz civilians here???? ?_?

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Butt Wizard posted:

Bugger. Cheers anyway man.

http://shop.skazka.co.nz/product/Rakia-Bulgarian-Grape-40-700ml/33453?view=2 ?

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Soon or at a natural rate? *dials 11 and hovers over the 1 key*

Immediately. :colbert:

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Yea, that's first stop tomorrow, hopefully they've got something in stock.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Soon or at a natural rate? *dials 11 and hovers over the 1 key*
I sincerely hope that, under entirely natural conditions brought upon by the stresses of office and a diet comprised entirely of beer, tim-tams and just being a good old Kiwi bloke, he has a massive coronary that causes him to die in an embarrassing and public way such as while reading 50 Shades of Grey in an Auckland bus-stop while wearing a raincoat and crossing his legs to hide his stiffy.

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action
I actually live at 3 Someone Kill John Key This Year Please and Barry, who lives next door, is a just good bloke trying to do his taxes who got caught up in a deplorable media circus

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Butt Wizard posted:

sweet, time to buy phosphorous futures!

You joke of course, but phosphorous reserves and especially phosphate fertilisers are in a loving state at the moment, it's bad poo poo

My granddad was ahead of the curve as always :smug: he allowed his farm to trial phosphate pebbles. Slower gains in fertility, but larger maximum gain over time, and it didn't poison the river when the rains came.


Infotainment! posted:

Immediately. :colbert:

:colbert::hf::colbert:

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


Disabled parking spot

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Exclamation Marx posted:



Disabled parking spot

He's pretty badly ethically disabled tbf.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Exclamation Marx posted:



Disabled parking spot

I hope someone chainsaws off his face.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
I think we should be publicly asking any members of the armed forces to not go to Iraq. The sad thing is that they probably want to go.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

klen dool posted:

I think we should be publicly asking any members of the armed forces to not go to Iraq. The sad thing is that they probably want to go.

The only people dumb enough to join the armed forces are the kind of people who actively want to go murder people in a far off land and love that beer drinking bloke Mr. Key, yes.

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Robo Captain
Sep 28, 2013
Unless you are one of the people who join because it's pretty much their only option for employment .

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