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corn in the fridge posted:Go drive a 15MY Vanquish with that same ZF 8spd auto and then tell me that car would be better served with a 6spd manual. Now if only we could get her with four on the floor. 
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cursedshitbox posted:It would be comically funny as taking a 80s camry and making it rwd. The w124 wasnt designed around front drive, and it was seriously hacked in last minute. the w210 was much better. Good news, there was a 80s Camry that was RWD; 
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Isn't the keioniseggegegegehe a manual 6 speed? It was in the original model and looked amazing. Probably still my 'dream' car.
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Feb 13, 2015 16:28
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For better or worse, there are people that want to just firmly grip a hard stick and move it back and forth faster and faster because of the immense gratification it gives themselves.
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Feb 13, 2015 16:39
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CornHolio posted:According to the googles, that's $300,000+ in real-world units and now that I think about it I have no idea. Even if you win the lottery you have nothing to worry about, I'm sure some maniac mechanic out there is more than willing to wedge a manual into any car you like if you shower him with the correct amount of cash.
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Sadi posted:Every auto I've ever driven can engine break if you manually select gears. Works in the Dakota with its 4 speed auto. Since it has an overdrive disable button you can force it into whatever gear you want. 1 for first, 2 for second, D with overdrive disabled for 3rd, enable overdrive for 4th. 
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Im fully prepared for the brigade of disagreements overthis choice but this made me laugh too much for the other thread.
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El Scotch posted:Sheep, man. Assholes, all of them. Couldn't dodge the ram.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:Im fully prepared for the brigade of disagreements overthis choice but this made me laugh too much for the other thread. Well I don't disagree persay, but the whole making Doctor Who jokes on any vehicle with any shade of blue paint is sort of running thin at this point. My other car is a tardis. Edit: I'd be impressed if someone had an "It's bigger on the inside" sticker on a blue Aveo though. Edit: also saw this in Vegas this week, although I'm not quite sure what make it is.  Wrar posted:That's a McLaren. 
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davebo posted:Well I don't disagree persay, but the whole making Doctor Who jokes on any vehicle with any shade of blue paint is sort of running thin at this point. That's a McLaren.
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Wrar posted:That's a McLaren. No no, that's just a different kind of car owned by famous musician M.C. Laren.
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Neptr posted:My problem, even when you consider that the new autos perform better and are more efficient (both in terms of drivetrain losses and more ratios) is not just the lack of a third pedal and knob, but autos don't engine brake either. I love that part of the manual trans, it really cements the feeling that your feet control the whole drivetrain. Plus it's great for controlling speed, obviously. At the start of the year I picked up a 2015 S3. This comes ONLY with a 6 speed "S-Tronic" automatic transmission. It automatically engine brakes using downshifts... more than it probably applies the actual brakes; no it doesn't need to be in super sport mode or some bullshit setting, it happens in normal "D" setting.
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High specs automatics are definitely better but they're not funner and fun is my most important metric for a car
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8ender posted:High specs automatics are definitely better but they're not funner and fun is my most important metric for a car This. It's tragic that this is even being debated in the greatest loving car forum on the internet. Manuals are more fun. Trying to justify it with babbling on about ratios and control and all that bullshit is pointless. A human being can't control a car worth a drat compared to a bunch of modules and actuators but that isn't the point of driving cars for fun.
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Our lovely Fiat 500 is fun as hell thanks to being a manual. I can only imagine how boring an auto would be.
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Oh I had no idea it was from Dr Who. Only ever saw one episode and didnt care much for it.
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eyebeem posted:Our lovely Fiat 500 is fun as hell thanks to being a manual. I can only imagine how boring an auto would be. Even in an auto version, it still puts a smile on my face flying over bumps on the springy suspension. It's not that the car wants to kill you, it's that it wants to die together. Unless you own one of those horrible made-for-white-women XL versions of the car or some nonsense.  I hope every single person this ad represents contracts rear end cancer.
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GramCracker posted:At the start of the year I picked up a 2015 S3. This comes ONLY with a 6 speed "S-Tronic" automatic transmission. It automatically engine brakes using downshifts... more than it probably applies the actual brakes; no it doesn't need to be in super sport mode or some bullshit setting, it happens in normal "D" setting. Yeah, it's audi's name for their slightly different version of the DSG dual clutch transmission, which I happen to like as well (have one in my JSW TDI).
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razorscooter posted:For better or worse, there are people that want to just firmly grip a hard stick and move it back and forth faster and faster because of the immense gratification it gives themselves. This is the same bullshittery that leads to fake engine noises pumped into the speakers. You can engine brake in even the cheapest auto. You can shift gear faster and more efficiently I in most autos. Banging gears around may be rewarding, but it's distracting, leaves more opportunity for driver error destroying the car, and is the automotive equivalent of an appeal to nature. People that think manuals are the only way are like the kid in high school who wore Pink Floyd shirts, insisting that music peaked wherever his dad's music collection stopped growing, never expanding their horizons on what could be done. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Feb 13, 2015 |
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revdrkevind posted:Even in an auto version, it still puts a smile on my face flying over bumps on the springy suspension. It's not that the car wants to kill you, it's that it wants to die together. 2013 500 Pop. Bought it used with all of 3,000 miles on it, popped the hood at the dealer and saw that it had a Mopar intake installed, and later realized that it also had a Mopar exhaust and short shifter kit. Whee.
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eyebeem posted:Our lovely Fiat 500 is fun as hell thanks to being a manual. I can only imagine how boring an auto would be. While this is very true, my arguement is than in high end sports cars with highly tuned suspensions, powerful engines and sticky tyres, a manual gearbox will quickly become the most performance-hampering aspect of the car. To say that such a car would need one in order to be fun and pure is simply backward and ignorant
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Wasabi the J posted:This is the same bullshittery that leads to fake engine noises pumped into the speakers. Or they just prefer a manual transmission.
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BraveUlysses posted:Yeah, it's audi's name for their slightly different version of the DSG dual clutch transmission, which I happen to like as well (have one in my JSW TDI). Yup! 2k-ish miles on the car so far and I have to say I'm not missing manual at all. I've been following the transmissions development for a few years now, and it's finally in a place where it won't poo poo itself (see B8 S4 DSG's). At least they didn't name it the Porsche Doppelkupplung, or something equally as German.
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corn in the fridge posted:While this is very true, my arguement is than in high end sports cars with highly tuned suspensions, powerful engines and sticky tyres, a manual gearbox will quickly become the most performance-hampering aspect of the car. To say that such a car would need one in order to be fun and pure is simply backward and ignorant Oh, yeah, I agree with you for the most part. Once you get into real performance car metrics, it's not as critical to the "fun" aspect and can actually make things more dicey and less fun when actually pushing the car to the limits. Manuals make boring cars fun, for sure, but CAN make fun cars a chore.
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Wasabi the J posted:This is the same bullshittery that leads to fake engine noises pumped into the speakers. No. It's that I want to have fun driving a car. Not-manual cars aren't as fun. Q.E.D.
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eyebeem posted:2013 500 Pop. Bought it used with all of 3,000 miles on it, popped the hood at the dealer and saw that it had a Mopar intake installed, and later realized that it also had a Mopar exhaust and short shifter kit. Whee. Drove an auto of almost that exact car over a weekend, minus aftermarket bits. Slap it into sporty semi-auto mode and redline the engine pulling out of an office park getting up to the blistering speed of over 45mph.  The capability of a given car means a lot less than the relative amount of fun you can have with it. Slavvy posted:No. It's that I want to have fun driving a car. Not-manual cars aren't as fun. Q.E.D. This is a really dumb conversation. Manual is more AI, so manual wins here. If you want to argue for auto, post some drool-worthy cutaways of cool auto systems. Or something. Here's a guy driving a powerglide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV6bFyJNBww Powerglide is an auto transmission compatible with maximal fun.
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Every sex scene is replaced with him complaining about how harsh sports car suspension is.
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Slim Pickens posted:Every sex scene is replaced with him complaining about how harsh sports car suspension is. This, but it's also still a sex scene.
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El Scotch posted:Sheep, man. Assholes, all of them. Hah, holy poo poo. I cannot stop laughing like a child at this.
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El Scotch posted:Sheep, man. Assholes, all of them. "Game On!"
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Slim Pickens posted:Every sex scene is replaced with him complaining about how harsh sports car suspension is. *Ties you up* Let me tell you about the nurburgring...
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GramCracker posted:Yup! 2k-ish miles on the car so far and I have to say I'm not missing manual at all. I've been following the transmissions development for a few years now, and it's finally in a place where it won't poo poo itself (see B8 S4 DSG's). At least they didn't name it the Porsche Doppelkupplung, or something equally as German. I had the DSG in my old GTI which was great, my 335i has the ZF8 box and I was worried going from a dual clutch back to a slushbox was going to be bad, but that ZF8 box is amazing. How do you like the S3 so far? I like the size but felt like I didn't need AWD. Chemmy fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Feb 14, 2015 |
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Slavvy posted:No. It's that I want to have fun driving a car. Not-manual cars aren't as fun. Q.E.D. The Chevy HHR came in manual. Its not fun to drive in automatic. It's even less fun to drive in manual.
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Slavvy posted:No. It's that I want to have fun driving a car. Not-manual cars aren't as fun. Q.E.D. http://justgivemethedamnmanual.com/article/just-give-me-the-drat-manual-transmission/
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ExplodingSims posted:The Chevy HHR came in manual. Its not fun to drive in automatic. It's even less fun to drive in manual. Wrong it's slightly funner with a manual just like getting shot with a rubber bullet is funner than a beanbag round.
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8ender posted:Wrong it's slightly funner with a manual just like getting shot with a rubber bullet is funner than a beanbag round. Yeah well I can talk on my phone and eat a burrito while i'm getting shot with a beanbag round but you can't do that while getting shot with a rubber bullet.
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I can, and have, driven a badly undergeared offroad truck in NYC with a manual in traffic while eating pizza. It wasn't even hard. Also this is a really dumb argument and definitely not as cool as posting awesome AI poo poo so here is a video of offroad buggies racing on a pretty difficult obstacle. Those are 37-44 inch tires, for a sense of scale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsHAqBXpXcI E: he tried to do it in reverse after to show off and it backfired pretty badly. kastein fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Feb 14, 2015 |
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