and now shadowbane may be back lol

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Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Taxi to victory!

# ? Feb 5, 2015 03:35

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 23:56

shadok: Dec 12, 2004; You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.; Fun Shoe

Subjunctive posted:

Taxi to victory!

Just how many people in this thread are alumni of Waterthread / the diaspora of LtM, anyways?

# ? Feb 5, 2015 03:47

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

I just lurked, IIRC, so I'm not sure I count.

# ? Feb 5, 2015 03:54

WayAbvPar: Mar 11, 2009; Ah- Smug Mode.

shadok posted:

Just how many people in this thread are alumni of Waterthread / the diaspora of LtM, anyways?

I think almost any gamer over 30 stopped in one of the sites at least a few times.

# ? Feb 5, 2015 05:42

A Spider Covets: May 4, 2009

shadok posted:

Just how many people in this thread are alumni of Waterthread / the diaspora of LtM, anyways?

i am 25, 5 years and some change short of being over 30. what are these.

# ? Feb 5, 2015 16:23

shadok: Dec 12, 2004; You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.; Fun Shoe

A Spider Covets posted:

i am 25, 5 years and some change short of being over 30. what are these.

Waterthread.org was the most interesting place to talk about MMOs from 2001 to 2004; it attracted a lot of smart players, a lot of game developers and a lot of people who went on to become game developers. Lum the Mad is Scott Jennings, a very funny guy who was one of the first people to write online about UO and EQ. Waterthread was one of a bunch of successor sites to his old blog, "The Rantings of Lum the Mad" which were sometimes collectively called "the diaspora of LtM".

# ? Feb 5, 2015 20:44

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

And then F13, I guess.

# ? Feb 5, 2015 20:57

shadok: Dec 12, 2004; You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.; Fun Shoe

Subjunctive posted:

And then F13, I guess.

F13, CorpNews, Grimwell, Anyuzer... people went all over.

# ? Feb 5, 2015 22:06

WayAbvPar: Mar 11, 2009; Ah- Smug Mode.

Don't forget the thrilling week or two of Slow News Day.

# ? Feb 6, 2015 00:17

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

i dont know if this game will be good, but its buy to play which is a really good sign

# ? Feb 12, 2015 18:53

WayAbvPar: Mar 11, 2009; Ah- Smug Mode.

They seem to be saying/planning a lot of things that are not pants on head retarded. Which means their eventual failure will suck even worse.

# ? Feb 12, 2015 22:22

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

WayAbvPar posted:

They seem to be saying/planning a lot of things that are not pants on head retarded. Which means their eventual failure will suck even worse.

# ? Feb 12, 2015 23:12

rage at me: Mar 7, 2006; i can feel your anger

Finally after 20ish years of development Shadowbane is almost ready. I can't wait :dance:

# ? Feb 13, 2015 04:56

Fajita Queen: Jun 21, 2012

It's gonna be the Duke Nukem Forever of PvP MMOs. :smith:

# ? Feb 13, 2015 07:02

Carol Pizzamom: Jul 13, 2006; a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

Oh my god the back-stories are so loving stupid in this game

Why do people try to flesh out their worlds with writing if their writing is terrible. Just leave it up to the imagination if you're that loving awful

# ? Feb 13, 2015 13:22

Carol Pizzamom: Jul 13, 2006; a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

Eonwe posted:

On a positive note, it looks like they didn't go too nuts with the graphical fidelity, and it still looks pretty good.

Less focus on expensive textures and modelling increases the viability of any game, at least.

# ? Feb 13, 2015 13:36

Namelus: Sep 27, 2013

So, anyone planning on making a thread called Crowfall, describing what we know and checking to see if any goons want to join in?

# ? Feb 13, 2015 17:03

Carol Pizzamom: Jul 13, 2006; a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

theres no information on the site other than theres class archetypes, its 3d, and theres stats and maybe pvp or whatever

I guess they are going to release more in ~11 days

# ? Feb 13, 2015 17:58

A Spider Covets: May 4, 2009

Carol Pizzamom posted:

theres no information on the site other than theres class archetypes, its 3d, and theres stats and maybe pvp or whatever

I guess they are going to release more in ~11 days

yea i would wait honestly. maybe until there's an alpha or something that you can at least try, unless they release something worth discussing for several pages

# ? Feb 13, 2015 18:00

sword_man.gif: Apr 12, 2007; Fun Shoe

please, do not give money to be in the crowfall alpha

# ? Feb 13, 2015 20:22

Carol Pizzamom: Jul 13, 2006; a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

Given what games are like now-days, what are the chances it isn't pay to win.

Well, maybe if there's at least fishing..

# ? Feb 13, 2015 20:51

Zarithas: Jun 18, 2008

Carol Pizzamom posted:

Given what games are like now-days, what are the chances it isn't pay to win.

Well, maybe if there's at least fishing..

They claim to be strongly against P2W. However, they did confirm a few things in their pricing FAQ.

A system like Eve's PLEX for buying and selling "VIP subscription" time. As far as I can tell the only real perk from the VIP stuff is you can passively train 3 characters at a time instead of 1 at a time, plus some USD discounts.
A way to buy cosmetic stuff which will have no actual effect on the game.
A way to buy additional character slots per account.
A way to buy an increased player cap in your "kingdom", which most people understand to basically be a lobby/peaceful player housing zone. Mostly cosmetic.

I'm fine with the PLEX stuff because gold farmers will be in the game anyway, so might as well legitimize it. And Eve hasn't had any problems with it. And the increased character slots would already be achieved by people buying new accounts with real money anyway, so again, not really a big deal.

I am a little concerned as to the nature and scope of the player kingdoms, but since they seem to be separate from the game world itself, I don't think it'll actually affect balance at all. I just hope they don't waste that much development time and effort on a stupid barbie dream house medieval castle sim.

Carol Pizzamom posted:

theres no information on the site other than theres class archetypes, its 3d, and theres stats and maybe pvp or whatever

I guess they are going to release more in ~11 days

Yeah, too early to make an official thread now. Someone should start preparing an :effort:

thread for the announcement day though.

Zarithas fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Feb 14, 2015

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:19

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Plex is a good system because its not hard at all to make enough gold to keep vip up

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:31

Impotence: Nov 8, 2010; Lipstick Apathy

Eonwe volunteers to make the thread and lead the goon guild

edit: how many avatars have you gone through in the last week wtf

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:34

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Biowarfare posted:

Eonwe volunteers to make the thread and lead the goon guild

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:34

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Biowarfare posted:

Eonwe volunteers to make the thread and lead the goon guild

edit: how many avatars have you gone through in the last week wtf

5 I think

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:34

Carol Pizzamom: Jul 13, 2006; a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

Zarithas posted:

A system like Eve's PLEX for buying and selling "VIP subscription" time. As far as I can tell the only real perk from the VIP stuff is you can passively train 3 characters at a time instead of 1 at a time, plus some USD discounts.

A way to buy cosmetic stuff which will have no actual effect on the game.

A way to buy additional character slots per account.

A way to buy an increased player cap in your "kingdom", which most people understand to basically be a lobby/peaceful player housing zone. Mostly cosmetic.

I'm good with this. You have to make concessions with these games, especially if you want constant updates. Convenience and cosmetics are just something you have to get rid of sometimes. It's unfortunate that when you see someone with something cool, you don't think about how he got it, and instead you think about how he probably bought it, but you can't have it all.

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:54

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

# ? Feb 14, 2015 04:25

rage at me: Mar 7, 2006; i can feel your anger

Game has to actually come out for it to be pay to win. Let's just take this one step at a time guys.

# ? Feb 14, 2015 05:21

Zarithas: Jun 18, 2008

Looks like they're going to attempt a Minecrafty approach to world generation and player construction/destruction.

quote:

This morning's update is a bit different; instead of concentrating exclusively on game content, today we're going to look at some of the core technology that we're using to make this game work: a platform called Voxel Farm.

Some of you are probably familiar with Voxel Farm; it's gotten a lot of attention for use in some other high-profile games. This library really consists of two parts:

1. it gives us the ability to modify and shape the terrain and buildings in the game, using "voxels" (tiny blocks, sort of like Minecraft only much, MUCH smaller), and

2. it also allows us to generate our World maps procedurally.

quote:

What does a voxelized world allow players to do?
Blast holes in walls. Collapse towers on your opponent. Dig a tunnel beneath a castle wall, so that you can dig your way up into the courtyard and siege from within.

Voxel technology gives the players the ability to (literally) move mountains.

To see what�s possible, check out the Voxel Farm destruction demo, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on-0Ou48tak

http://crowfall.com/#/faq/54e359997450fc794e7711c0

# ? Feb 17, 2015 17:55

Bob NewSCART: Feb 1, 2012; Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

Zarithas posted:

Looks like they're going to attempt a Minecrafty approach to world generation and player construction/destruction.

http://crowfall.com/#/faq/54e359997450fc794e7711c0

This is beginning to sound
More and more badass..

# ? Feb 17, 2015 18:13

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

maybe they can make a good game :smith:

# ? Feb 17, 2015 18:16

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

quote:

We believe the MMO industry has grown stale. It�s time to create something new.

# ? Feb 17, 2015 18:34

WayAbvPar: Mar 11, 2009; Ah- Smug Mode.

Eonwe posted:

maybe they can make a good game

Spit that hook out before it sticks in your jaw!

# ? Feb 17, 2015 19:08

Zarithas: Jun 18, 2008

Eonwe posted:

maybe they can make a good game

There is a chance. To me it sounds like they're getting way too big for their britches with all these ideas (basically trying to create and run multiple different procedurally generated and malleable MMOs simultaneously with the world architecture). If they can actually pull it off it could be really good, but I think they're veering into very very experimental territory.

Best to hold off any :shepspends: