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Feb 15, 2015 00:16
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those scrollbars need to go on a diet
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Feb 15, 2015 01:01
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i'm still of the belief that the default vista aero minimize, maximize, and close buttons are hiding under the win 8/8.1 & win 10 ones
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Feb 15, 2015 01:20
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Phoenixan posted:i'm still of the belief that the default vista aero minimize, maximize, and close buttons are hiding under the win 8/8.1 & win 10 ones so stupid it has to be true
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Feb 15, 2015 01:21
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Phoenixan posted:i'm still of the belief that the default vista aero minimize, maximize, and close buttons are hiding under the win 8/8.1 & win 10 ones which themselves are on top the XP ones which are on the 3.1 ones which are on top the Mac OS ones they stole from jobs in the 80s and skinned over
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Feb 15, 2015 02:41
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Phoenixan posted:i'm still of the belief that the default vista aero minimize, maximize, and close buttons are hiding under the win 8/8.1 & win 10 ones you still get that flashing black space/bar when resizing windows in w10 explorer so probably
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Feb 15, 2015 04:10
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my latest microsoft story is i bought a sculpt mouse (bluetooth) to connect to an intel nuc with an intel wireless ac + bluetooth card, running windows 8.1 pro. the mouse is poo poo and the scroll wheel stops working randomly, and in tyool 2015 the bluetooth encryption keys arent stored on the adapter so it takes ~40s after booting into windows before the mouse works, and it cant wake the pc from sleep. this is stuff apple had working in 2003.
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Feb 15, 2015 13:20
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Thanks Ants posted:my latest microsoft story is i bought a mouse well, maybe you just had some bad luck. you should exchange that mouse and exchange it for this one
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Feb 15, 2015 13:33
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lol yes i know im an idiot for expecting any different. now and again i check in on the windows world to see if its still a cesspit of poor quality hardware, incompatibility and stupid design decisions, and somehow i am surprised when the answer is still "yes".
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Feb 15, 2015 14:32
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https://twitter.com/microsoftstore/status/567006173250224128
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Feb 15, 2015 18:36
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Feb 15, 2015 18:50
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man, that's sad as gently caress
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Feb 15, 2015 18:52
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who the gently caress has a contact named "Ex" into their phone? let alone a windows phone?
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Feb 15, 2015 18:57
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lol. UMM, OK?? said very passive aggressively
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Feb 15, 2015 18:59
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if you are not in a relationship you are subhuman scum and you deserve a microsoft product, agreed
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Feb 15, 2015 19:07
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carry on then posted:if you are not in a relationship you are subhuman scum and you deserve a microsoft product, agreed please no. i'll get a gf next time i promise
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Feb 15, 2015 19:56
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one of the few times MS actually has properly targeted marketing
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Feb 15, 2015 20:05
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im married to a female woman
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Feb 15, 2015 23:43
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Necc0 posted:please no. i'll get a gf next time i promise
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Feb 16, 2015 00:10
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https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/567070683549536256 lmao
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Feb 16, 2015 01:01
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someone tell paul to unblock me on twitter
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Feb 16, 2015 01:37
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pram posted:lol. UMM, OK?? said very passive aggressively more like what the gently caress is the image trying to show
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Feb 16, 2015 01:43
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EMILY BLUNTS posted:more like what the gently caress is the image trying to show giant scrollbars but tiny everything actually useful or important in any way
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Feb 16, 2015 01:46
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EMILY BLUNTS posted:more like what the gently caress is the image trying to show vista-era icons
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Feb 16, 2015 01:51
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how long until they metro the installer too
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Feb 16, 2015 02:03
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the same release where they ditch it in the os, because nobody will tell the installer team.
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Feb 16, 2015 02:14
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This probably belongs in the programmer thread, but microsoft.txt: So I rarely program at home, but there's a little project I wanted to do for a while and I figured what the hell I might learn something. I fire up visual studio express and get cranking. Well the API I want to talk to is a REST web service and they use some flavor of the week framework (Firebase) for it so I go looking for some examples on how to talk to it from .Net. I find a few codeproject example and download a sample project. The project won't open however and I realize my copy of VS Express is old (2010) so I download 2013 Express. To my dismay the project still won't open, and I figure it's because it needs some feature of the full edition (probably NuGet). I'm a little miffed because I should have access to Pro from home through my works MSDN license, but that's a separate story. I had thought I had read something recently about MS allowing add-ins and extensions to work in the free edition of Visual Studio so I do some searching and discover Community Edition. Why the hell does Express edition still exist then? I download it and try to get to work understanding the example project. It seems straightforward enough so I start copying chunks of skeleton code over to my project from the sample and am greeted by missing assembly references. I go to add the references and can't find them. "Oh these must exist in the NuGet repository," I think to myself. I've heard a little about NuGet, but haven't had need to use it at work. So I start looking for these libraries and poo poo starts getting real. First, even having the sample project open in another window I can't find some of the assemblies. Turns out they're in a package that's named differently than their namespace. Great loving move MS. Then even after I add everything, the project still won't build because it can't find an extension method (For you non-.Net programming YOSPOSers an extension method is a method that looks like it belongs as a member of an object but can be written by any hamfisted keyboard masher completely independently of the object because programming isn't confusing enough) . Turns out the extension method is buried in a completely different assembly that I have to hunt down in NuGet. The ONLY reason I was able to find the assembly the extension method was in was because I had the sample project open and could go to the definition. poo poo still refuses to build because now I have an assembly conflict. Turns out some of the libraries (Microsoft assemblies) referenced different versions of another library and when something in the program went to reflect and load it up, it couldn't find the right version. So now I have to learn to how to get NuGet to pull a specific version of said package (DLL Hell 2.0). As a bonus kicker, as I was looking at the sample program I saw a class with a method defined on it that wasn't used by anything. It seemed to contain important configuration information, but there was no interface definition on the class, and the method wasn't even registered as a delegate anywhere. The class was used as a type on a generic class method (Microsoft.Owin.Hosting). I was morbidly curious, so in my app I omitted this method and sure enough I got a "EntryPointNotFound" exception at runtime. Yep, somehow we've regressed in programming to not require an interface on a class or even registering poo poo to an eventhandler. All of this poo poo was using Microsoft written assemblies. 
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Feb 16, 2015 04:04
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if ur doing a webapi client project all you gotta do is start a new project and add webapi client package from nuget
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Feb 16, 2015 04:10
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Shaggar posted:if ur doing a webapi client project all you gotta do is start a new project and add webapi client package from nuget Which I eventually figured out, but not before going through that whole dance routine. I understand why they're doing it, but from my end it feels like a whole step backwards from the previous framework deployment model. The part that floored me was using reflection to perform discovery and load class information instead of enforcing something sane like an interface. It makes it an absolute nightmare to try and understand/learn what is happening when you see code is executing and you've never tied it into anything.
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Feb 16, 2015 06:23
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sounds like your microsoft programming language might be a piece of poo poo
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Feb 16, 2015 06:27
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lol
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Feb 16, 2015 08:35
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took me a moment to realise the white edge on the phone wasn't white background they couldn't be bothered to photoshop out
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Feb 16, 2015 14:02
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Ted NuGet
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Feb 16, 2015 14:10
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TerminalRaptor posted:Which I eventually figured out, but not before going through that whole dance routine. I understand why they're doing it, but from my end it feels like a whole step backwards from the previous framework deployment model. The part that floored me was using reflection to perform discovery and load class information instead of enforcing something sane like an interface. It makes it an absolute nightmare to try and understand/learn what is happening when you see code is executing and you've never tied it into anything. idk what ur talkin about here. I mean yeah nuget sucks but there was no framework deployment model before it. Also what are you using reflection for? I don't understand what you are doing but it sounds like ur not using webapi
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Feb 16, 2015 16:15
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Windows Phone 8.1.2—also known as Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2 or Windows Phone 8.1 GDR2—is real, according to Microsoft’s online documentation. This site still calls Windows Phone 8.1.1 as GDR2—a.k.a. “general development release 2,” which is an older style of update naming—but I will just refer to it as 8.1.2. Presumably this will be the final Windows Phone OS software update before the release of Windows 10. oh man so much going on there.
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Feb 16, 2015 17:13
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Mechwarrior 4 Point Release 2
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Feb 16, 2015 20:11
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Windows is better than Mac
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Feb 16, 2015 20:51
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Wootman posted:Windows is better than Mac nice troll but no one believes that
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Feb 16, 2015 21:00
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pram posted:nice troll but no one believes that Its not a troll its a fact.
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