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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Homeopathy and holistic medicine often get confused, but at least holistic remedies often involve things that are actually things. Which can cause holistic medicine to be more dangerous than homeopathy. Despite always being stupid, homeopathy is only dangerous if you take it in place of real medicine. Holistic or herbal medicine actually have active ingredients which means in addition to the danger of forgoing medical treatment it can also actively harm you.
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I can't see him doing the anti-vaccination movement in a full 15-minute segment, but he might touch upon it. There's not all that much to go into, is there? You should get vaccinated, and the bulk of reasons not to are terrible. Seems simple enough.
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Feb 11, 2015 08:19
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That's becoming a new major problem in China, since idiots believe in TCM and use it constantly, but TCM doesn't work. So the people peddling the herbs will add actual medicine to it so it will be effective and thus get them more business, but they have no idea what the gently caress they're doing because they have no medical knowledge. And thus you get people making their dried cockroach tea laced with a lethal dose of acetaminophen or whatever.
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axeil posted:
He did that over the break.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:How would this actually work? Presumably you would have to get vaccinated by going to a doctor and having them administer the shot, unless there are places where you can just buy the vaccine on its own and do it yourself at home like some weird vaccine junky. I assume any doctor, anywhere, wouldn't agree to some idiot parent's request to water down the vaccine before administering it until only the "spirit of the vaccine" remained. Homeopaths talk them into it. The absolute worst thing about this is that the parents then go around telling everyone their child is fully vaccinated and no one knows any different until an actual medical practitioner just happens to ask the right questions, as in this case.
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Feb 11, 2015 18:39
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Relentlessboredomm posted:I wasn't sure if it had petered out over there or not. I was wondering if it was a thing in Australia. I know that's the birthplace of creationism so anything's possible. I would love if he did a thing on Australian creationists. His last visit where he described their racism as a comfortable slipper was amazing. It's been said, but yeah it's a thing. I don't think it's a really loud "movement" but people still hold the personal belief. My wifes friend got Measels while she was pregnant last year cause she was raised an anti-vaxxer. Relentlessboredomm posted:I know that's the birthplace of creationism so anything's possible. Huh?
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SlothfulCobra posted:I can't see him doing the anti-vaccination movement in a full 15-minute segment, but he might touch upon it. There's not all that much to go into, is there? You should get vaccinated, and the bulk of reasons not to are terrible. Seems simple enough. He could do a full segment on it if he really dug into and explained stuff like the history of anti-vaccination and how the whole thing was started by that scumbag British doctor who was just trying to peddle his own vaccine. I would hazard a guess that a lot of anti-vaxxers don't know the full history and how it was always full of poo poo.
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Feb 12, 2015 13:46
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http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-31424159 Apparently that Ecuadorian clown is some national childhood hero or something. quote:He focused on Correa's attempt to marshal an army of trolls against his social media critics - a story BBC Trending covered previously - but what really irritated Ecuadorians was the fact that he ridiculed one of his beloved childhood characters: Tiko Tiko the clown xcore posted:Huh? I thought Australia was the birthplace of the modern creationism movement. Is that incorrect?
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Relentlessboredomm posted:http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-31424159 In a few years we'll probably learn that Tiko Tiko has a small mountain of children's bones in his garage or something.
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Feb 12, 2015 18:37
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geeves posted:In a few years we'll probably learn that Tiko Tiko has a small mountain of children's bones in his garage or something. With teeth marks.
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Feb 13, 2015 00:44
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why would he bite his garage
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Feb 13, 2015 01:53
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Seems that John has added to the list of countries that he has pissed off.
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bobkatt013 posted:Seems that John has added to the list of countries that he has pissed off. He should see how far he can go with this. A well placed Falklands war joke could lengthen the list even further.
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JohnSherman posted:He should see how far he can go with this. A well placed Falklands war joke could lengthen the list even further. If they really want to go this route they should just let Jeremy Clarkson have about 5 minutes per week unfiltered.
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JohnSherman posted:He should see how far he can go with this. A well placed Falklands war joke could lengthen the list even further. I'm not entirely convinced that this wouldn't actually start a new Falklands War.
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Astro Nut posted:I'm not entirely convinced that this wouldn't actually start a new Falklands War. After the way Argentinians responded to a toothless Falklands War joke on the part of Top Gear, I'm fairly certain that any time any British person mentions the Falklands there's some kind of rioting in Argentina. (For those who didn't hear about this, for an Argentina/Chile special one of the cars had a license plate that said "FLK 82" or something like that and the Argentinians responded by attacking the crew and chasing after them with mobs. The show was escorted out of the country. This wasn't just the usual Top Gear brand of editing; there's other video of the attacks on the crew out there. Their official line is that it was just a coincidence, but it was pretty obviously a set up for some kind of cheesy "Don't mention the war" joke and then they'd point out the license plate. They had a replacement one ready to go that was a more generic insult.) Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Feb 13, 2015 |
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Random Stranger posted:but it was pretty obviously a set up for some kind of cheesy "Don't mention the war" joke and then they'd point out the license plate. They had a replacement one ready to go that was a more generic insult.) Except it wasn't, that car had had the same plates since the early nineties. It was a total coincidence. The second plate was going to be a gag they used at the end when they were supposed to play car soccer, but they never got around to that on account of being chased out of the country by an angry mob. The plate was H982 FKL. Vanity plates are hard to get in the UK but you can swap plates with people and sometimes owners of special cars try to get plates related to their car. It was a Porsche 928. It's likely that the owner of the car back in the nineties got the plate because 982 is close to 928. When you sell a car in the UK the plates go with the car. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Feb 13, 2015 |
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Feb 13, 2015 23:45
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I hope Correa saw the pigpoopballs I tweeted at him
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Everyone says that because the plate had been on the car since the 90s it's proof they didn't plan it. But what if they searched the plate first, then came up with the idea for what class of cars to use based on what they found?
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thehustler posted:Everyone says that because the plate had been on the car since the 90s it's proof they didn't plan it. Seems like a lot of effort for very little payoff.
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Feb 15, 2015 14:10
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thehustler posted:Everyone says that because the plate had been on the car since the 90s it's proof they didn't plan it. Clarkson has a very real moment in the Argentina special where he explains in vivid detail why he thinks the 928 is the best Porsche ever. It might have happened the way you said, but there's more evidence to suggest it was just coincidence.
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thehustler posted:Everyone says that because the plate had been on the car since the 90s it's proof they didn't plan it. Just how many porsche 928s, or supercars period, do you think are out there to make that joke? Clarkson revels in being offensive, but this one really probably was just coincidence.
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At this time Clarkson doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt due to past antagonistic actions but I don't think the numberplate was the issue here. The problem was driving into a except I only anti-british area while being the most old school British person alive. It would be like someone from a super Republican programme going into a super loyalist part of Belfast and getting confused when they get a bad reaction.
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IRQ posted:Just how many porsche 928s, or supercars period, do you think are out there to make that joke? Clarkson revels in being offensive, but this one really probably was just coincidence. I agree with you on the coincidence, but the 928 wasn't a supercar, it was the "cheap" porsche of its time, like the Cayman and Boxster of today.
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GutBomb posted:I agree with you on the coincidence, but the 928 wasn't a supercar, it was the "cheap" porsche of its time, like the Cayman and Boxster of today. You might be confusing it with the 924 or 968 or something, which were the cheap ones. The 928 was almost 10 times as much and one of the most expensive production cars at that time. 968:  928:   Aanyway, it's a) unlikely that this was anything more than a coincidence, and b) in any case the reaction was absolutely ridiculous. Reminder that they drove around Vietnam on a bike painted with the American flag while blaring Born in the USA, and nothing at all happened.
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mobby_6kl posted:You might be confusing it with the 924 or 968 or something, which were the cheap ones. The 928 was almost 10 times as much and one of the most expensive production cars at that time. You're right, I had no idea that in 1977 it was $28k ($109k in today's money). You can find them now for about $20k so I assumed they were much cheaper than the 911 of the era.
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Feb 15, 2015 18:39
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Wanna get a Jeff shirt so bad.
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njsykora posted:That was incredible The first time he said, "Now.. Don't be mad..", I knew it was going to be amazing. Andddddd, I was right.
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Feb 16, 2015 05:53
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That's the best episode so far. Amazing. ¡JEFF!
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I'm looking at the Twitter feed, seeing LWT announce they're doing a show on tobacco, and thinking "Gee, we've known tobacco companies were cartoonishly evil for at least 15 years. But I guess we need some kind of reminder..." We sure did. Incredible reporting, topped off with a loving masterstroke of a stunt.
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Feb 16, 2015 06:11
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God drat, those letters from the tobacco companies were some serious investigative journalism finds, and the Jeff! campaign was pure gold. This show is knocking it out of the park.
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Feb 16, 2015 06:35
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Someone in Australia, please send me one of those Demon Eye cigarette packs.
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Feb 16, 2015 09:01
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...I actually noticed that it was Paraguay right away. Paraguay is above Uraguay.
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Feb 16, 2015 09:33
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If you think Phillip Morris taking Australia to an international court is bad, you should learn about the proposed Transpacific Partnership agreement. Here's the Australian perspective: http://www.getup.org.au/tpp
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For those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8
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Cigarette companies still haven't really given up on the plain packaging fight in Australia. The court cases are done but last year one of Murdoch's papers had a few articles claiming that plain packaging wasn't working at all, with the only evidence being research that was funded by tobacco companies. Nobody actually reads that newspaper though so it wasn't really going to convince anyone of anything.
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Feb 16, 2015 10:28
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Mexico is another country where cigarette boxes have disgusting poo poo plastered all over them, so I wonder if they're getting sued as well.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Mexico is another country where cigarette boxes have disgusting poo poo plastered all over them, so I wonder if they're getting sued as well. Canada was the first country to start with the picture labels starting over a decade ago. http://www.tobaccolabels.ca/countries/canada/
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Is it just me, or does 'Let's remove Maybe from their vocabulary' sound kinda rape-y? Kinda gives away the whole 'smoke our product or else' vibe.
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