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BBJoey posted:Well the only actual example of resistance Fulchrum brought up was the July 20th Plot which was an attempt by some Nazi officials at assassinating Hitler and instigating a coup in the hope of negotiating a cease-fire with the Allies, so I assumed that's what he meant. If he meant resistance from the general populace that's even more laughable, because after Hitler's purges in the 30s there was barely a hint of dissent for the entirety of the war. From my own family alone, I know a few personal anecdotes of civil disobedience well into the war (not quite enough to get you killed), and at least two stories of German people opening their house to allied troops coming through and being all "oh thank god you're finally here, hitler bad," which they couldn't have safely voiced earlier because, well, purges. One of those people was even a guard at a POW camp. I know anecdotes are not data, but when dissent is so heavily silenced, anecdotes that were hush-hush at the time can be all you have to go on, and if my family alone knows of 4 there are probably a lot more. e: new page, have a bizarre local Bish  I go to CMU and I have no idea  e2: oh it's this http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/02/18/oops-x-800-carnegie-mellon-tells-hundreds-of-applicants-theyre-in-by-mistake/ 800 acceptance letters sent out and then retracted, oops 
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Does not a single cartoonist know what's going on in the middle east? Do they not know how these countries are dealing with ISIL? Are they all just so stupid and un(mis)informed? I already know the answers to many of these questions, it's just starting to piss me off how everyone thinks nobody is doing anything about ISIL.
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Feb 19, 2015 14:48
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fool_of_sound posted:Nobody actually do this. Sheesh, fine. Have it your way.
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alnilam posted:From my own family alone, I know a few personal anecdotes of civil disobedience well into the war (not quite enough to get you killed), and at least two stories of German people opening their house to allied troops coming through and being all "oh thank god you're finally here, hitler bad," which they couldn't have safely voiced earlier because, well, purges. One of those people was even a guard at a POW camp.
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Feb 19, 2015 15:24
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Kegluneq posted:Er, I'm not sure how to break this to you A+++ post, very informative, would read again
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Feb 19, 2015 15:50
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This was the last conversation they shared before both he and Scruffy were devoured by the encroaching, all-consuming black mass.
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Feb 19, 2015 15:58
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Xanderkish posted:This was the last conversation they shared before both he and Scruffy were devoured by the encroaching, all-consuming black mass. oh no  Ramirez, stop, this isn't even your cartoon
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Does not a single cartoonist know what's going on in the middle east? Do they not know how these countries are dealing with ISIL? Are they all just so stupid and un(mis)informed? "Obama has been criticized for not being aggressive enough in fighting ISIS. I think he has just the right strategy. We can't continue to be the only ones stepping up. " So yeah your point still stands, I think Rogers is just as tired as I am of hearing how Obama ain't doing as much even as we blow the poo poo out of ISIL
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JaggerMcDagger posted:Western "Experts" Is that a loving piece of tape over the word "ISIS" in the first panel?
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Suitaru posted:Is that a loving piece of tape over the word "ISIS" in the first panel? Nice catch. Reverse google search netted me this. Dates back to Oct 2013. Edit: And the date on the comic is 2001. Considering the lazy work this guy already does, seems like it would have been easier just to make a new comic instead of looking through a decade and a half's worth of comics. Gin and Juche fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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alnilam posted:A+++ post, very informative, would read again Sorry, I just had to check if there was a polite way to tell you those people were probably just telling the Allies what they wanted to hear and were Nazi sympathisers before that. (There isn't.) So what does the mechanic do when his roof needs fixing? Pay the roofer by fixing his car or something? To be fair, Tinsley is implying here that she could have trained to work in some very male-dominated fields, so he's clearly making an argument against forcing women into stereotypical feminine degree courseshahaha no of course not.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Nice catch. Reverse google search netted me this. Dates back to Oct 2013. Holy moly. I know I shouldn't be surprised, but this is Catalino/Gorrell levels of self-defeating laziness.
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Hitler B. Natural posted:Bob Lang thinks Williams was the tip of the iceberg. What about IRAQ and FALSE WAR REPORTING and, um, KATRINA ETC? Always fun seeing right-wingers hold up Walter Cronkite as The Perfect Newsman, considering the right-wingers of Cronkite's day couldn't stand him.
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Erenthal posted:Holy moly. I know I shouldn't be surprised, but this is Catalino/Gorrell levels of self-defeating laziness. Hating on Muslims. A message so nice why not say it twice?
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Gravel Gravy posted:Nice catch. Reverse google search netted me this. Dates back to Oct 2013. Ahaha, christ. Good find. Kirschen, you fucker.
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Do Catalino/Gorrell and now Kirschen ever take a step back from hastily copied-over "artwork" and say, Wow, this looks really halfass, I should improve it or something so that people can't recognize what I did? Ever? Do they lack the capacity for shame?
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Kegluneq posted:Sorry, I just had to check if there was a polite way to tell you those people were probably just telling the Allies what they wanted to hear and were Nazi sympathisers before that. (There isn't.) Thanks for the deep insight. I didn't want to get into the specifics, but fine - they lived in Westphalia, where groups of people openly protested a lot of the really nasty Nazi policies in 1941 and were not put down because Hitler didn't want to risk open revolt during a 2-front war. And one of them was stripped of his medical license and jailed for refusing to help the Nazis (signing bogus death warrants for political prisoners and "euthanized" people), so it's not like he just later told people "oh um uh i didn't like the nazis..." And then two of these stories come not from german people after the fact, but from my american great-uncle who, after being captured, was helped to escape a POW camp and make it to the eastern front by several sympathetic germans. During the war. At great risk to themselves. I'm well aware that general public support for Nazi policies was disturbingly high in Germany (until the war started to turn on them), but a few posters are acting like there was no dissent/disagreement whatsoever in Germany after the purges and that's a troubling way of thinking.
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alnilam posted:Thanks for the deep insight. I didn't want to get into the specifics, but fine - they lived in Westphalia, where groups of people openly protested a lot of the really nasty Nazi policies in 1941 and were not put down because Hitler didn't want to risk open revolt during a 2-front war.
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Fair enough, i was just trying to find something more specific than "i... happen to know there was some dissent, it just didn't get talked about a lot" but less specific than "let me open right up with some family history!"
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zoux posted:Did you know that Dick Morris employs a cartoonist? He does! A... ....the gently caress is that even supposed to be? Rorus Raz posted:Oh god, he's actually becoming Onion Joe This is pretty great. It's the shear level of overkill that does it for me. InequalityGodzilla fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Because bombing the Middle East into glass and then jacking off over there for like 15 years really helped things it really did, guys Can't help but love that terrorist, though. 
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Vogon Poet posted:This is amazing, because Skye is not just getting a burn in on her sister; she's getting a burn in on Muir. The text of the first two dialogue bubbles is obviously from this page on about.com. Muir has previously done the exact same thing (minus the acknowledgment of what he was doing) in some of his strips involving auto repair, and he was mocked for it in this thread. Chris Muir... showing self-awareness? I'm kind of wondering if Muir had his 'John McCain on the stump' moment and finally got weirded out by his followers expressing so much rage over an imaginary character. I think that's actually a bathroom plunger that the soldier managed to jam through a roll of toilet paper. He probably should have his arms tied before he gets his hands on a gun. Also, getting a serious Vacanti Mouse vibe from that Obama.
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SporkOfTruth posted:Kurzweil is a raving fanatic who monetizes his idiotic "singularity" bleating by selling bullshit classes to equally insane rich, influential technoutopian wankers. Furthermore, his earlier predictions were either obvious to those skilled in the art at the time of the prediction or unfalsifiable bullshit that had as much rigor as a horoscope. He did some great signal processing work and that (along with working at MIT, a place born to cultivate off-the-rails technologists) made him think he had license to fantasize and futurise to all who would listen. Sure, some of his predictions are trivial and some don't hold up to scientific rigor in that they are not meaningfully falsifiable. Doesn't mean that he's got a bad record on that front, they seem to be better than anyone else who I have come across. I agree that he has used somewhat slippery definitions after the fact to justify a couple of them as 'correct'. And I am forced to agree with the critics who say AI is probably much further away than Kurzweil predicts. Meanwhile I hope he's right about the medical stuff because I really would love to live indefinitely, and honestly modern developments do seem to be going so fast that it's not beyond what I can credibly believe, but I am a layperson so I can't really hold forth on the specifics. None of that means the fundamental notion of a technological singularity is, in itself, unsound (Nor does any of it alone prove the reverse, either), and none of it means that the idea of what a Singularity is, whether it's to be awaited or avoided, and if it is desirable or inevitable, how we might harness it for the best ends are questions that should be ignored. Even if we take everything he says at face value there remain serious political and social questions about it so for those - like myself - who are of the opinion it is possible/likely/certain (I fall into the middle category myself) there's plenty of reason to discuss what it might entail and how it might be implemented. I don't view it as some sort of "nerd rapture", as the common criticism seems to be, and I see enormous perils alongside the enormous potential, but I have never understood why some people are so thoroughly angry about it all.
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Mister Adequate posted:but I have never understood why some people are so thoroughly angry about it all. Because they believe it's either so far off, so far outside of our current experience, or really just not going to happen, that it really does amount to technologist fantasy bullshit. That pursuing it like some do squanders their not insignificant talent in the here and now.
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 1Was 9/11 to recent to use for your dumb metaphor? I'm assuming that a few people getting beheaded in the desert is supposed to be Pearl Harbor 2 in this instance.  2She looks like a white Michelle Obama.  3Ted Rall gets super pissed when people point out that he's being an offensive rear end in a top hat. Also, "Why you calling 'the prophet'?" indeed.  4I'm guessing Horsey only heard Jeb's comments, not who he chose as his campaign advisers. I instantly read that "wouldn't be prudent" in Dana Carvey's Bush impression voice.  5Dumb and so goddamned liberal. At least the patriot has his government mandated health coverage.  6I like this one a lot.
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D.N. Nation posted:Do Catalino/Gorrell and now Kirschen ever take a step back from hastily copied-over "artwork" and say, Wow, this looks really halfass, I should improve it or something so that people can't recognize what I did? Ever? Do they lack the capacity for shame? Haha, not a chance. If anything, they treat self-plagiarism (and especially straight-up reruns with the names filed off) as incredibly significant and proof that they have been right all their lives. It's a phenomenon akin to both "Any day now!!" and Chris Muir's "I changed half the words in the Preamble and now it's 2spooky". Internet Webguy posted:
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Feb 19, 2015 19:27
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Ahahaha yeah, the Tea party weren't the ones calling it free healthcare at all! No sir!
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Internet Webguy posted:
Don't you know that all wars in history are directly and easily comparable in scale, context, and even in specific acts of aggression?
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Branco, delightfully, continues to be just dumber than a sack of hammers. I can allllways count on you, Branco. EDIT\/\/\/ And you too, Lester! I love you all! Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Oh no, a $325 fine for not complying with a law, how completely unprecedented.
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Why the gently caress is the Obama guy not wanting to get Obamacare?
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Radish posted:Why the gently caress is the Obama guy not wanting to get Obamacare? Because Branco is really the stupidest cartoonist we post.
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Because being attacked by official military forces of a country is exactly the same as being attacked by a terrorist group operating from within a country.
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