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Real Name Grover posted:This is probably a far-too-simple way of looking at it and doesn't take ad revenue into account, but Qatar is eight hours ahead of the East Coast in November/December. The only overlap with the NFL would be a cup match that begins at, say, 8 p.m./20:00 (most NFL games start at 1 p.m. ET on Sundays, and the Thursday/Monday night games won't be played at the same time as any WC match). I imagine Fox would use its Fox Sports 1 channel to air those anyway (the final, however ... well, we'll see). Never mind that this is more than seven years away and the network will evolve in any number of ways by then. Nobody said that this would be the silver bullet that stops Qatar. It is more that with every new story about the countries/organizations that support the World Cup growing dissatisfied with what is going on, the more likely that FIFA will decide that this entire mess is just not worth dealing with anymore.
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Don't get me wrong; I really do hope that this poo poo gets fixed, but at the same time I think with regard to the "but Euro club seasons!" and "but the NFL!" ... c'mon, they'll sort that poo poo out.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:26
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This is just anecdotal but I knew a lot of NFL fans who watched the world cup last summer. They weren't super into it, but it's a curiosity thing and a lot of people like to turn the tv to whatever sport is currently happening and just leave it there. but yes I doubt fifa would be bothered by Fox's bitching about it.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:26
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TV rights to air the World Cup in the US in summer, when it is pretty much the only thing going on, and thus attracts a wide audience who have nothing better to do, is what Fox paid for. The TV rights would have sold for a lot less if networks knew they were bidding for a Nov-Dec event which has to compete with other sports, cultural and religious holidays, school exams in most of the world etc. It is not just Fox and Telemundo that have a case. Broadcasters across the globe can make a case that they paid for a Jun-Jul event, and that the winter event they are now getting is worth considerably less. It is unlikely that the World Cup gets moved out of Qatar, but there could be severe financial repercussions for FIFA.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:40
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stickyfngrdboy posted:But yeah an American television company's advertising revenue is definitely going to be the reason the world cup won't be held in winter in Qatar. bitch it might be
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Feb 19, 2015 18:50
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Or FIFA could just say "tough titties, Sue us" and who's to say without seeing the contracts if there would even be be a case to answer. There's every chance the bidding process didn't specify dates beyond the year itself. Edit: the big European leagues dissenting would be far more likely to gently caress fifa over. They actually have a chance of winning.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:51
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TyrantWD posted:there could be severe financial repercussions for FIFA. Lol yeah
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Lol yeah Fox and Telemundo paid $1.2bn for the next two World Cups. There is no way they are going to let something like this slide, when they have that kind of money invested. FIFA may have already "compensated" the networks through the no bid extension of TV rights for 2026, but that would have already cost them ~500m+ in US TV rights alone.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:34
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TyrantWD posted:Fox and Telemundo paid $1.2bn for the next two World Cups. There is no way they are going to let something like this slide, when they have that kind of money invested. FIFA may have already "compensated" the networks through the no bid extension of TV rights for 2026, but that would have already cost them ~500m+ in US TV rights alone. Listen I'm all for everyone taking Fifa money away from Fifa, preferably straight out if blatters personal account, but this scenario won't lead to that conclusion. There is no way Fifa made 'it will be in the summer' a part of any contract anywhere when they knew from day one that was impossible.
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TyrantWD posted:Fox and Telemundo paid $1.2bn for the next two World Cups. There is no way they are going to let something like this slide, when they have that kind of money invested. FIFA may have already "compensated" the networks through the no bid extension of TV rights for 2026, but that would have already cost them ~500m+ in US TV rights alone. $1.2bn is not enough to dent FIFA.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Listen I'm all for everyone taking Fifa money away from Fifa, preferably straight out if blatters personal account, but this scenario won't lead to that conclusion. There is no way Fifa made 'it will be in the summer' a part of any contract anywhere when they knew from day one that was impossible. Unless otherwise specified that the 2022 World Cup was going to be in winter at the time the rights were sold, you would still have a case against FIFA. This appears to be a moot point anyway as FIFA have essentially "settled" by handing out no-bid extensions for 2026.
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Masonity posted:There's every chance the bidding process didn't specify dates beyond the year itself. No chance
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Feb 19, 2015 21:38
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Figo's unveiled his election strategy: Let's have a world cup with 48 teams!
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greazeball posted:Figo's unveiled his election strategy: Let's have a world cup with 48 teams! He wants to hold two simultaneous 24-team group stages on two different continents, and then have everybody meet in a third country to play the knockout stages. What the actual gently caress. 
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vyelkin posted:He wants to hold two simultaneous 24-team group stages on two different continents, and then have everybody meet in a third country to play the knockout stages. He claims this will be possible with only an extra 3/4 days. Utter madness.
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Feb 19, 2015 22:15
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All the europeans know is graft and corruption, thats why FIFA should be taken over by an Anglo country because otherwise its just fraud and waste.
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vyelkin posted:He wants to hold two simultaneous 24-team group stages on two different continents, and then have everybody meet in a third country to play the knockout stages. It's not gonna happen, he's just saying that to rope in the votes of smaller non-UEFA countries that might otherwise be in Blatter's camp.
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African AIDS cum posted:All the europeans know is graft and corruption, thats why FIFA should be taken over by an Anglo country because otherwise its just fraud and waste. Preferably with IMF oversight, investment banking support, and a Fitch rating. Also let me tell you about our new line of securitized products, ranging from company scrip housing MBS, to lucrative shorts on potential host countries' medium term bonds.
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Spangly A posted:$1.2bn is not enough to dent FIFA. Isn't that most of their cash reserves? I mean not that it would happen but it would be ruinous for FIFA
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Koesj posted:Preferably with IMF oversight, investment banking support, and a Fitch rating. Also let me tell you about our new line of securitized products, ranging from company scrip housing MBS, to lucrative shorts on potential host countries' medium term bonds. Hmm I'm detecting some anti semitism here wow
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Jose posted:Isn't that most of their cash reserves? I mean not that it would happen but it would be ruinous for FIFA They made a fuckload more than that from Brazil, has anyone got the numbers?
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Jose posted:Isn't that most of their cash reserves? I mean not that it would happen but it would be ruinous for FIFA Fifa have reserves of about 1.4bn American dollars, but it's not like they will have to payback the entire amounts of the TV rights. I mean we for a start have no idea how the payments are structured http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA2K1GO20140321?irpc=932
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Doha (AFP) – The Chairman of Qatar's National Human Rights Committee (NHRC) on Monday denied claims by the Guardian newspaper that jews are a people and Israel exists.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:24
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Just loving hold the world cup in england france germany italy and spain and loving leave it ffs
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Koesj posted:Doha (AFP) – The Chairman of Qatar's National Human Rights Committee (NHRC) on Monday denied claims by the Guardian newspaper that jews are a people and Israel exists. lol its going to be great when Israel qualify
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Feb 19, 2015 23:25
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Actually having qualified for a World Cup should be a requirement for hosting.
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I'm surprised China haven't had one yet but I suppose they'll throw all the money at it next time
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cue teams strangely throwing games vs qatar
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Feb 19, 2015 23:27
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Its all paving the way for proper football, played with helmets and pads and massive men to become the global sport, its already happening
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Jose posted:I'm surprised China haven't had one yet but I suppose they'll throw all the money at it next time They dont really like football tbh.
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I, for one, can't wait for Israel to qualify for the 2020 UEFA Greater Co-Prosperity Sphere Championship where they'll play their matches in Paris, Copenhagen, and Munich.
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where is american futbol being played other than ameirca?
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serious gaylord posted:They dont really like football tbh. Its got nothing to do with football and all about pretending your country isn't a dictatorship. Look at Equatorial Guinea getting the ACN
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Jose posted:I'm surprised China haven't had one yet but I suppose they'll throw all the money at it next time I suspect they're waiting until they can get their national team into a somewhat respectable state and regularly qualify. Unlike Qatar there would be significant local pushback if they just started handing out citizenship for sport purposes.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:32
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JorahTheExplorer posted:where is american futbol being played other than ameirca? Anywhere men have normal testosterone levels, and Japan as well.
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Plucky Equatorial Guinea withstood the predations of Mark Thatcher and Jeffrey Archer and very much deserved to host yet another Africa Cup of Nations tyvm
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Feb 19, 2015 23:33
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First they came for our Akinfenwas.
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African AIDS cum posted:Anywhere men have normal testosterone levels, and Japan as well. RIP NFL Europe
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Koesj posted:Plucky Equatorial Guinea withstood the predations of Mark Thatcher and Jeffrey Archer and very much deserved to host yet another Africa Cup of Nations tyvm lol that was equatorial guinea? i had no idea. no wonder they failed
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A country so powerful it could hold off a plane full of South African mercenaries. Your turn, Qatar.
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