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Robzilla
Jul 28, 2003

READ IT AND WEEP JEWBOY!
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Guillermus posted:

Get a 535 if you can as it has 1gb ram. The 635 is a good mom phone but it falls short because of the 512 ram.
I should've specified that while cheap it has to be able to work on Consumer Cellular, which means no plans and it has to be unlocked or an AT&T Go Phone. Unfortunately I've not been able to find something other than the 520 or 635.

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MyFaceBeHi
Apr 9, 2008

I was popular, once.

beuges posted:

xylo, any chance you can shed some light on the inability for MS to enable Cortana for all regions, even in a completely unsupported alpha phase for english only? It baffles me that they make a big song and dance about the fact that Cortana can now speak klingon for the 5 people in the world who care about something like that, yet it's still unavailable for the majority of the english speaking world. Are they going to leave Cortana region-locked when Windows 10 rolls out for the desktop as well?

Not xylo, but I thought they said that Cortana will be available on all phones in W10 phone AND on in W10 PC. I could be wrong though and it could be wishful thinking, considering this IS Microsoft we're talking about...

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Robzilla posted:

I should've specified that while cheap it has to be able to work on Consumer Cellular, which means no plans and it has to be unlocked or an AT&T Go Phone. Unfortunately I've not been able to find something other than the 520 or 635.

There's four that say "unlocked" on Amazon when you search for Lumia 535.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=lumia+535

Uthor fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Feb 18, 2015

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Guillermus posted:

Get a 535 if you can as it has 1gb ram. The 635 is a good mom phone but it falls short because of the 512 ram.

Is there any rhyme or reason to the naming conventions of Lumia phones? The 635 appears to be worse overall than both the 535 and the 735 - is there any way of ballparking whether one phone is better than another by name alone?

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Is there any rhyme or reason to the naming conventions of Lumia phones? The 635 appears to be worse overall than both the 535 and the 735 - is there any way of ballparking whether one phone is better than another by name alone?

Nope, they're a mess right now, apparently due to some being largely done by Nokia and others (with 1gb now standard) being more directed by MS once they took over. A potential 640, say with the 535's mem/camera specs but with the better CPU and screen of the 635 would be a great low end model now, but with either the 535 or 635 you make some rather significant compromises either way.

Stubb Dogg
Feb 16, 2007

loskat naamalle

MyFaceBeHi posted:

Not xylo, but I thought they said that Cortana will be available on all phones in W10 phone AND on in W10 PC. I could be wrong though and it could be wishful thinking, considering this IS Microsoft we're talking about...
Won't ever happen.

Even Bing is still missing 90% of its features outside US and they don't really care . Google got 90% search market share in EU for a good reason.

General E
Aug 25, 2003

Subterfrugal posted:

I just jumped over to a windows phone for the first time. While there's a lot I like, the Windows phone store is a loving wasteland. Can anyone make recommendations or point me to a list of Windows equivalents to Android apps? I'm looking for:

1. Podcast manager (Came from using BeyondPod)
2. Weight-lifting tracker (Jeffit Pro)
3. Running tracker (Runkeeper)
4. Audiobook reader (Mortplayer)
5. Task manager (Any Do)

If there are agreed upon upgrades to the standard stuff, I'd appreciate that too.

1) I find the built-in Podcasts app fine for my needs, but Podcast+ Pro is nice.
2) I've used several, and my favorite is Gymbuilder Pro
3) I think I've used every one on the platform at this point, and Runtastic is my favorite. It's one of the only cross-platform ones that seems to give a crap about keeping the WP experience up to par with the other platforms.
5) Wunderlist. Clearer is also nice and minimalist, but Wunderlist is better all-around.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Is there any rhyme or reason to the naming conventions of Lumia phones? The 635 appears to be worse overall than both the 535 and the 735 - is there any way of ballparking whether one phone is better than another by name alone?

Some way to an explanation, though obviously some leaks in the watertight system:

http://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/2lxd7d/is_there_any_rhyme_or_reason_to_the_lumia/

In other news I just smashed my 1520 screen. It's a delicate son of a bitch. Once the stages of grief are done what can I do to make it whole? Youtube videos show the breakdown of the phone to be pretty fiddly but doable, though I'm confused which part I need to get off Ebay. Most of the auctions seem to be for the glass itself but it seems the replacement needs to be of the whole screen assembly.

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007

Mr Funkface posted:

Some way to an explanation, though obviously some leaks in the watertight system:

http://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/2lxd7d/is_there_any_rhyme_or_reason_to_the_lumia/

In other news I just smashed my 1520 screen. It's a delicate son of a bitch. Once the stages of grief are done what can I do to make it whole? Youtube videos show the breakdown of the phone to be pretty fiddly but doable, though I'm confused which part I need to get off Ebay. Most of the auctions seem to be for the glass itself but it seems the replacement needs to be of the whole screen assembly.

You need the entire assembly as the screen is bonded. Just the glass itself is nearly impossible to install, so you aren't getting off cheap.

I busted mine a while back. Ended up just selling it "as is" on eBay for $129, turned around and bought a green one locally for $380. The overall cost was about what an assembly and my pain/tears would cost, so it was worth it to me.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

hotsauce posted:

You need the entire assembly as the screen is bonded. Just the glass itself is nearly impossible to install, so you aren't getting off cheap.

I busted mine a while back. Ended up just selling it "as is" on eBay for $129, turned around and bought a green one locally for $380. The overall cost was about what an assembly and my pain/tears would cost, so it was worth it to me.

Yeah, I'd definitely recommend this. Unless you've done it before, it is absolutely worth selling as is and buying a used one to replace it.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Was tired of being stuck with Cyan dev preview and pulled the trigger, unbranded my 925 with the country variant version (just need to get a code for sim unlock this too) and I'm running denim now. Everything is cool and that but I miss having the battery % on glance (I have it on the lockscreen settings but isn't showing on my glance one).

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Greatest thing about having 10 Tech Preview on my Cricket 630 is that I have internet sharing again!

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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beuges posted:

xylo, any chance you can shed some light on the inability for MS to enable Cortana for all regions, even in a completely unsupported alpha phase for english only? It baffles me that they make a big song and dance about the fact that Cortana can now speak klingon for the 5 people in the world who care about something like that, yet it's still unavailable for the majority of the english speaking world. Are they going to leave Cortana region-locked when Windows 10 rolls out for the desktop as well?
The Klingon thing was done by nerdspeople on their own time. As for why they just don't open it up for english no matter what I have no idea. No idea about the locking -- I'm guessing there may be legal reasons though. Many countries forbid strange things. For example, location services and tracking in places like South Korea or China are a legal minefield.

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

Devo posted:

My 920 is starting to crap out after two years and I'm getting to the point where I don't want to piss with it anymore and I'm ready to get a new phone. Is there anything worth getting? Should I even care about this platform anymore? I thought about a 1520 but that seems lolhuge.

I went from 920 to 1520, was worried about the dimensions. It was a shock initially how large the 1520 was, but you quickly become accustomed to it and then wonder at how small the 920 screen appears.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
How fast is the 930's camera and how good is it at catching images of kids bouncing around doing kidlike things?

repeating
Nov 14, 2005

BonoMan posted:

Greatest thing about having 10 Tech Preview on my Cricket 630 is that I have internet sharing again!

Cricket is a mobile phone provider. Sorry, I thought better of myself after posting the original comment.

repeating fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Feb 19, 2015

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
I got bored, so I started making a twitter client.



Will I finish it? No idea. But If nothing else,I got more tweets on my screen then any other client I've tried.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

Drastic Actions posted:

I got bored, so I started making a twitter client.

Did you ever use Symbian? Please copy Gravity.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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Dr Tran posted:

Did you ever use Symbian? Please copy Gravity.

I'm an American so no, never used Symbian. But I do have an iPhone, so I'm basically aiming at copying my favorite Twitter app, TheWorld, which basically has a metro-ish look. I already have multiple twitter accounts, and I'm getting there on multiple feeds.

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Darth TNT posted:

How fast is the 930's camera and how good is it at catching images of kids bouncing around doing kidlike things?

It's good, but I don't know that it's any faster than other mobile phone cameras. It's got a burst mode though, which allows you to take a rapid sequence of shots and then magically remove moving objects from the foreground, swap people's heads from one frame to another etc. until you've composed a shot you're happy with. It's pretty neat, but at the end of the day it's still a phone camera.

Mikser
Nov 25, 2007
With the Denim update for the 930, the camera app becomes much faster to launch. Also, you can just hold the camera button down and as long you keep holding it it'll film 4K video. You can also use the software to pick any frames from the video you like and extract them as 8 megapixel JPEGs. I imagine this makes it easier to take impromptu shots.

Charles Martel
Mar 7, 2007

"The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages
Drastic, is there a way in the latest version of the Forums Reader to copy text or save pictures from a thread to your phone? The usual tap & hold doesn't work unless I'm missing something obvious.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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Charles Martel posted:

Drastic, is there a way in the latest version of the Forums Reader to copy text or save pictures from a thread to your phone? The usual tap & hold doesn't work unless I'm missing something obvious.

In the beta, you double tap an image to show a download prompt. For text, there currently is no way to select it, because the webview does not directly let you. I think it's a bug with the mishmash of forums JavaScript and my stuff.

Edit: also remember that I have a thread for this in Project.log, so direct questions there next time.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012
So my carrier (3UK) is dragging its heels on rolling out the Denim update, and I'm impatient. Is there any way to jump the gun and get it anyway, a la the dev preview of 8.1?

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Pipski posted:

It's good, but I don't know that it's any faster than other mobile phone cameras. It's got a burst mode though, which allows you to take a rapid sequence of shots and then magically remove moving objects from the foreground, swap people's heads from one frame to another etc. until you've composed a shot you're happy with. It's pretty neat, but at the end of the day it's still a phone camera.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I know. I have a dedicated camera, but I don't always have it with me but I find myself using my phone camera regularly to take quick shots of him or my wife when something fun happens. My current phone can't keep up at all.
I need to replace my current phone, but the way I see it the 930 is one of the best to replace it with currently due to camera and specs. I'm worried about win10 since it gives a big bump to the minimum specs that 735/830 will immediately become sluggish upon update.

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Darth TNT posted:

I need to replace my current phone, but the way I see it the 930 is one of the best to replace it with currently due to camera and specs.

Its other plus is a decent-sized battery, so you'll probably actually be able to take pictures when you need to. While I was on holiday my Nexus was running out of juice by the afternoons, and I missed a lot of good pics as a result. The 930'll keep chugging a lot longer.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Pipski posted:

Its other plus is a decent-sized battery, so you'll probably actually be able to take pictures when you need to. While I was on holiday my Nexus was running out of juice by the afternoons, and I missed a lot of good pics as a result. The 930'll keep chugging a lot longer.

In that aspect, my 1520 can last almost 2 1/2 days with moderate usage. :smug:

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

ratbert90 posted:

In that aspect, my 1520 can last almost 2 1/2 days with moderate usage. :smug:

But why are you only using it moderatly? :v:


Can we also complain here about how you login to outlook.com? I don't understand whose idea it was that you press login to get a pop up to fill out your emailaddress to get forwarded to a different page to enter your password. It's a failure of usability and the extra pages and clicks bother me.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Darth TNT posted:

But why are you only using it moderatly? :v:

I have a tablet for the other stuff.

When I am out and about with the family taking a lot of pictures, I don't think I have been able to get the 1520 below 40% by the end of the day.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Darth TNT posted:

But why are you only using it moderatly? :v:


Can we also complain here about how you login to outlook.com? I don't understand whose idea it was that you press login to get a pop up to fill out your emailaddress to get forwarded to a different page to enter your password. It's a failure of usability and the extra pages and clicks bother me.

This is most likely a security effort. MS has really been knocking it out of the park on security with it's services for the last dozen or so years.

Now everything else about their service offerings..

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Darth TNT posted:

Can we also complain here about how you login to outlook.com? I don't understand whose idea it was that you press login to get a pop up to fill out your emailaddress to get forwarded to a different page to enter your password. It's a failure of usability and the extra pages and clicks bother me.

??? (same on my phone)

ljw1004
Jan 18, 2005

rum

Darth TNT posted:

Can we also complain here about how you login to outlook.com? I don't understand whose idea it was that you press login to get a pop up to fill out your emailaddress to get forwarded to a different page to enter your password. It's a failure of usability and the extra pages and clicks bother me.

I hate this. I think it has to do with the fact that there are two completely unrelated "identity services" at Microsoft...

* one is Office365 identity which they call "Work/School identity" because institutions buy a subscription to Office365 and hand out email inboxes to their students/employees. I think they set it up so that an institution's IT department can manage identities/logins themselves using ActiveDirectory.

* one is "Live ID" also called "Microsoft Account" and originally called ".NET Passport". This is a common signin to xbox, onedrive and a load of services. It includes an email inbox, but you don't need to use this, and can often instead just give your gmail email address and ignore the inbox that they provide.


The net result is that when you sign in, the system doesn't know which kind of address you're signing in with. If it's the first kind then they have to do a separate round-trip with your institution's ActiveDirectory system to validate the login. If it's the latter then they delegate it to the LiveID identity services. Well, that's my completely uninformed notion about what's happening. I know nothing about these things and I'm just guessing. All I know is that it's confusing as heck because I have three identities to juggle...

myfirstname@mylastname.com - the Office365 institutional services that I bought for my family so we could all huge and non-gmail inboxes.

myfirstname.NET@mylastname.com - the LiveID I've been using for over a decade, for my xbox and onedrive and so on

myinitial.mylastname@microsoft.com - the Office365 institutional services for my employer (Microsoft)


And something's badly messed up because Visual Studio keeps asking me to re-login all the time, and Internet Explorer point blank refuses to use anything other than my employer's signin unless I clear the cache.

ljw1004
Jan 18, 2005

rum

General E posted:

1) I find the built-in Podcasts app fine for my needs, but Podcast+ Pro is nice.

Can anyone clue me in? I spent a while trying the popular podcast apps (i Podcast, PODCASTS!, Casts, SlapDash Podcasts) but Microsoft's built-in Podcast app beats them all hands down...

* PODCASTS! is a garish mess that won't let me unsubscribe from the podcasts it provisions by default, and doesn't show the artwork for episodes, and has ads unless you pay for pro

* SlapDash Podcasts point blank refused to subscribe to my podcasts, even though I can subscribe to them just fine in iTunes and the built-in app and all the other apps.

* i Podcast and Casts - I can't remember what I didn't like about these.


(Did Microsoft's default podcast app used to be really terrible, and so these competitors sprang up, but now they've been overtaken again?)

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention
Is the browser in the 10 preview for phones still IE or based on the new Spartan browser? If it's still IE, is it using the new rendering engine like you can enable on IE 12?

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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ljw1004 posted:

And something's badly messed up because Visual Studio keeps asking me to re-login all the time.

Yeah, this happens to me all the time. Please get someone, anyone on it.

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

ljw1004 posted:

Can anyone clue me in? I spent a while trying the popular podcast apps (i Podcast, PODCASTS!, Casts, SlapDash Podcasts) but Microsoft's built-in Podcast app beats them all hands down...

* PODCASTS! is a garish mess that won't let me unsubscribe from the podcasts it provisions by default, and doesn't show the artwork for episodes, and has ads unless you pay for pro

* SlapDash Podcasts point blank refused to subscribe to my podcasts, even though I can subscribe to them just fine in iTunes and the built-in app and all the other apps.

* i Podcast and Casts - I can't remember what I didn't like about these.


(Did Microsoft's default podcast app used to be really terrible, and so these competitors sprang up, but now they've been overtaken again?)

My big beef with the Microsoft podcast app was that it is wildy inconsistent in terms of keeping track of your place in the podcast. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it gets back to "resuming" particularly on low end phones and it loses your place again too. It also syncs with nothing, so unless you only listen to podcasts on your phone you are screwed.

I think most of the griping comes from the fact that it's a lot worse than the 7.x podcast experience (unless you are outside the US, in which case you were screwed).

Tivac
Feb 18, 2003

No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are

Maneki Neko posted:

My big beef with the Microsoft podcast app was that it is wildy inconsistent in terms of keeping track of your place in the podcast. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it gets back to "resuming" particularly on low end phones and it loses your place again too. It also syncs with nothing, so unless you only listen to podcasts on your phone you are screwed.

I think most of the griping comes from the fact that it's a lot worse than the 7.x podcast experience (unless you are outside the US, in which case you were screwed).

Resuming has been fixed for me for a while now. Only complaint I have w/ the MS podcast app at this point is that it crashes with a few podcast feeds using HTTP Basic Auth.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I'm pretty sure Joe promised us more device news by now. Where are the devices, Joe. Where are they. I still need to replace my 920. :colbert:

CalvinandHobbes
Aug 5, 2004

loquacius posted:

I'm pretty sure Joe promised us more device news by now. Where are the devices, Joe. Where are they. I still need to replace my 920. :colbert:

Flagship device. More like July/August/September. Well after all the android flagships release (because hey, Microsoft services are great on Android if case Microsoft could give you more prompting to switch). Next month at MWC, rumor is they'll announce two new midrange phones (likely 1330 and something else). Flagship gets announced likely at BUILD at the end of april/early may.

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Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Factor Mystic posted:

??? (same on my phone)



That is not the page you arrive on when you type in onedrive.com or outlook.com.



ljw1004 posted:

I hate this. I think it has to do with the fact that there are two completely unrelated "identity services" at Microsoft...

* one is Office365 identity which they call "Work/School identity" because institutions buy a subscription to Office365 and hand out email inboxes to their students/employees. I think they set it up so that an institution's IT department can manage identities/logins themselves using ActiveDirectory.

* one is "Live ID" also called "Microsoft Account" and originally called ".NET Passport". This is a common signin to xbox, onedrive and a load of services. It includes an email inbox, but you don't need to use this, and can often instead just give your gmail email address and ignore the inbox that they provide.


The net result is that when you sign in, the system doesn't know which kind of address you're signing in with. If it's the first kind then they have to do a separate round-trip with your institution's ActiveDirectory system to validate the login. If it's the latter then they delegate it to the LiveID identity services. Well, that's my completely uninformed notion about what's happening. I know nothing about these things and I'm just guessing. All I know is that it's confusing as heck because I have three identities to juggle...

myfirstname@mylastname.com - the Office365 institutional services that I bought for my family so we could all huge and non-gmail inboxes.

myfirstname.NET@mylastname.com - the LiveID I've been using for over a decade, for my xbox and onedrive and so on

myinitial.mylastname@microsoft.com - the Office365 institutional services for my employer (Microsoft)


And something's badly messed up because Visual Studio keeps asking me to re-login all the time, and Internet Explorer point blank refuses to use anything other than my employer's signin unless I clear the cache.

At least that's a reason beyond terrible usability designers.

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