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bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
lol

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Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord
stay strong bob

things are gonna get better

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!
oh its that part we post internet speeds

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Lisboner

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
lol foreigners and their quaint internet

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Celexi posted:

oh its that part we post internet speeds

Ur countries broadband is pathetic.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!
my isp has faster speeds to subscribe ( up to 400 )

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

please post your bandwidth in a more meaningful unit like opensuse isos/s

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:

Breakfast All Day posted:

please post your bandwidth in a more meaningful unit like opensuse isos/s

0.000000000001 iso/s

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
compiz rules everything around me
cream get the kernel
dwalla dwalla bill (gates) yall

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
today i tried to use evince, the gnome 3 pdf reader. they replaced all the file, edit, etc menus with a loving "hamburger" button, like i'm using a 7" ipad mini and can't use real menus.

but that's not enough. they hosed up dpi independence, so the "hamburger" button is so small i can barely click it with my mouse. it's maybe an eighth of an inch. if i tried to use the touchscreen, it would be completely impossible to hit.

this is a 220 dpi screenshot, so the scrollbars and window title are a normal width/size. it's all the buttons that are hosed up.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
the black border is actually part of the stupid thing. they draw their own window decorations, and gnome 3 applications will draw a shadow for themselves even if you are not using gnome 3 and no other windows on your desktop have shadows.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
that's a gnome app? looks like early kde 4 lol

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

he's running it in kde, so kde has injected its terrible theme. I wouldn't be surprised if the kde theme was the reason the buttons are the wrong size.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug
worst of all, it apparently opens the bitcoin paper

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

oh, and his screenshot tool is broken, if it were working correctly it wouldn't capture the shadow

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge

Cocoa Crispies posted:

worst of all, it apparently opens the bitcoin paper

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Cocoa Crispies posted:

worst of all, it apparently opens the bitcoin paper

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
still no excuse for the burger menu. burger menus are poo poo

http://blog.manbolo.com/2014/06/30/apple-on-hamburger-menus

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



Cocoa Crispies posted:

worst of all, it apparently opens the bitcoin paper

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

pseudorandom name posted:

oh, and his screenshot tool is broken, if it were working correctly it wouldn't capture the shadow

it's xwd: x window dump

if the window includes extraneous garbage because the app author is a jackass, then that is exactly what gets dumped

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

pseudorandom name posted:

he's running it in kde, so kde has injected its terrible theme. I wouldn't be surprised if the kde theme was the reason the buttons are the wrong size.

how would kde cause an app that draws its own window decorations to not have dpi-independent icons

kde is most assuredly not drawing its own icons there -- they don't match anything else on my desktop

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
bsd you have dishonored lunix with your disingenuous screen shot for shame

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's xwd: x window dump

if the window includes extraneous garbage because the app author is a jackass, then that is exactly what gets dumped

weird, I can't imagine why an obsolete screenshot program that predates alpha channels and uses an image format that doesn't support alpha channels would gently caress up capturing a partially transparent window

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
xwd dumps to its own format, and captures the alpha correctly, but i converted it to png. so that's my fault.

it's still really jackassed, as an app author, to paint your own window controls and a loving window shadow. there's a reason i don't use winamp, you know?

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's still really jackassed, as an app author, to paint your own window controls and a loving window shadow. there's a reason i don't use winamp, you know?

I thought the reason was because AOL killed it.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
I'll settle for 2015 being the year of Wayland on the Linux desktop tbh

much like YoLotD it always seems to be just around the corner

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

still no excuse for the burger menu. burger menus are poo poo

http://blog.manbolo.com/2014/06/30/apple-on-hamburger-menus

quote:

Now, sometimes people will try to solve this by putting the menu on the right-hand side, but that’s not advisable either. That location is a really important location. Usually, you can put some kind of action there, you know, like a plus sign to add something, or an edit button.

And finally, the downside of being able to show a lot of options is that you can show a lot of options. Is that you will show a lot of options. The potential for bloat and misuse is tremendous. They allow you to add all sort of stuff that your users don’t really care about. Like information about the app. Or version history, or credits. I hate to break it to you, but no one cares.

remove "bloat", people complain

put "bloat" in a menu, people complain

what are we supposed to do

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

build something great so millions of people love it and drown out the few thousand who complain

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
I like GNOME 3 :shobon:

mostly.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Subjunctive posted:

build something great so millions of people love it and drown out the few thousand who complain

That's what my new job is.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Suspicious Dish posted:

That's what my new job is.

I can't even bother to look up the name of the greek myth about the boulder.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
Sisyphean task fyi

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

pram posted:

Sisyphean task fyi

thx pram.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I can't even bother to look up the name of the greek myth about the boulder.

You don't understand what my job is then.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I can't even bother to look up the name of the greek myth about the boulder.

/proc/sysiphus

computer toucher
Jan 8, 2012

Suspicious Dish posted:

And this was why we invented Cockpit.

i did a fresh Fedora install, installed Cockpit from the app store and it didn't work. that's my cockpit story.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

cock pit

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

You mean pycon?

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pram
Jun 10, 2001

computer toucher posted:

i did a fresh Fedora install, installed Cockpit from the app store and it didn't work. that's my cockpit story.

It just works

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