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Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Atal Vataman posted:

heres what every new player to the game should do:

1. buy a löwe AND a T34
2. do not read any tutorials/wikis (SPOILERS!)
3. turn off chat
4. play those two tanks exclusively until you can free xp and buy an e100
5. play e100 forever

Also turn off the minimap. Or just press V for extra realism.

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The Southern Dandy
Jun 15, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT MY RADLEY-WALTERS' MEDAL

Is that medal for being the most intolerable poster in a thread about Warhammer 40.000 novels? Because if it is, you sure blew the competition out of the water, son.

Ensign Expendable posted:

Also turn off the minimap. Or just press V for extra realism.

WHOA spoiler your poo poo EE!

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

Ensign Expendable posted:

Also turn off the minimap.

That will put you on par with 8-12 people on your team in pretty much every battle.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

That's going to be so awesome. I was driving over the tracks in Ensk in my E-75 the other day and I rocked up and down like I was rowing through a hurricane in a dinghy.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Nice, I have something to read on my subway commute this afternoon. :3:

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Hellsau posted:

Chapter 2: IOC

I am honestly not surprised by this, seeing as I am now in IOC.
I joined up simply because there are more IOC players on than goons at the times I actually manage to play (and they can often click red tanks). Also If you want to play tanks, don't get kids.

IOC players have good stats (mostly by statpadding OP tanks), and some are actual good players. Whereas some have supposedly good stats, but when you toon with them, you just want to scream at them.
Like one guy that hates Prokhorovka and therefore he suicides over the middle ridge, while the match is still undecided and he effectively loses us the game with that move. To make it worse, he was playing a T-54 in that game, a tank which is pretty ideal for that map.

The Southern Dandy
Jun 15, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT MY RADLEY-WALTERS' MEDAL

Is that medal for being the most intolerable poster in a thread about Warhammer 40.000 novels? Because if it is, you sure blew the competition out of the water, son.

Cardiac posted:

I am honestly not surprised by this, seeing as I am now in IOC.
I joined up simply because there are more IOC players on than goons at the times I actually manage to play (and they can often click red tanks). Also If you want to play tanks, don't get kids.

IOC players have good stats (mostly by statpadding OP tanks), and some are actual good players. Whereas some have supposedly good stats, but when you toon with them, you just want to scream at them.
Like one guy that hates Prokhorovka and therefore he suicides over the middle ridge, while the match is still undecided and he effectively loses us the game with that move. To make it worse, he was playing a T-54 in that game, a tank which is pretty ideal for that map.

#justswedeproblems

If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much.

What does IOC stand for?

The Southern Dandy fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 26, 2015

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

The Southern Dandy posted:

#justswedeproblems

What does IOC stand for?

Incompetent Ovulating Cunts

No offense Cardiac :cheers:

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
Not even 4 games in and I already am raging at dumb shits. I watched a Centurion at full health abandon cap and refused to attempt a reset because he was "stock". Good thing I was there to reset.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Agrajag posted:

Not even 4 games in and I already am raging at dumb shits. I watched a Centurion at full health abandon cap and refused to attempt a reset because he was "stock". Good thing I was there to reset.

You tk'd him, right?

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
I reset the cap to win the game, but was killed for it. He survived at full health and he did 0 damage all game according the results.

:negative:

The Southern Dandy
Jun 15, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT MY RADLEY-WALTERS' MEDAL

Is that medal for being the most intolerable poster in a thread about Warhammer 40.000 novels? Because if it is, you sure blew the competition out of the water, son.

Mesadoram posted:

Incompetent Ovulating Cunts

No offense Cardiac :cheers:

I was going with Inviolate Obese Cheeseeaters, but I think yours works better

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
Whoa, did they stop selling the Fury? Do I get to be a special snowflake now?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
Welp time for the depressing ending:

Chapter 3: Y0L0



Look at this clan emblem. That’s a sweet emblem. Oh man this is in their clan description now:

“We Are Mature Clan and like to Treat our Friends or Opponents with RESPECT in Battle Field. We learn from our losses, and do better next time by not doing similar mistakes.”

I…suspect that was not there when I joined. Again, I refused to call from the start.

The first day I joined there wasn’t any clan wars. People are arguing about which gun to use on the T-54. Woody27685 wants to use the gun that leads to the 140 (the correct gun) and others are disagreeing because "lol higher pen". Similarly, "the Pershing was technically classified as a heavy in world war 2.” I knew then that I had joined the right clan. I have a note saying “RGA is unhappy with Woody” but I have no idea what that means.

Day 1 - We didn't have enough for two full teams. Woody was extremely concerned about a few of us from our primary battle (that was 4 minutes afterwards) coming in and suiciding the middle on Lakeville. It worked out though. We won that battle AND got 4 more people fame.

Lost on Ensk because Blazing_Hornet hid in a corner with his 50 100 and ignored the caller. Whoops. Gotta save them repairs (he did one clip of damage and was the last one alive).

Day 2 – “Tried doing tier 6 strongholds. Players deliberately played poorly. Good times.” I’m not kidding – one dude intentionally lost us a game out of spite, and they just did not want to have fun playing tier 6s.

Shinmiri (4:57:45 PM) i swear to god RUS players are the most disappointing stat-padders i've seen
Shinmiri (4:58:04 PM) they play like they're 500 wn8 below what they actually are

I think I sat out clan wars because I didn’t need fame.

Day 3 - No clan wars, I think due to lovely chip placement. We did a team battle where we played like poo poo in one game, and then I got thrown under a bus in another so they could try to get a minor amount of gold. Fun. Don’t play organized stuff with terrible players.

Days 4 through 6 - I have no notes. I think I just kinda didn’t care at this point since it was getting boring with everyone being the regular kind of bad instead of the extremely funny VOLT kind of bad.

Day 7 – “Woody doesn't like me. He's a big fan of vicodin apparently?” Remind me to record all the teamspeak conversations next time I go on pubbie safari.

We went in with 13 against PLSGO, including two tier 9s. We nearly won, we would have with slightly better play. We lost to -_A_- on the main battle for our HQ. These people are really bad!

Day 8 - Suicide pushed into established E3s, against my advice. Lost. Good times. They were set up in the northern part of Ruinberg city, so we can either pull around south and come at them up the 1, 2, and 3 lines simultaneously, OR we can rush two of our tanks down A line to distract while the rest of our dudes hit their sides down the B line, OR we can push into their faces from B line and let their team in city come back to support them. We chose that last option.

We had a LOT of fights on Ruinberg tonight due to encounters and poo poo. We repeatedly failed to push 0 line on Ruinberg. Four times in a row, I was first into east village, no matter where I spawned. Fourth time they were staggered and I clipped someone out, but no one else bothered moving up. We lost. I berate people for repeatedly making the same mistake after being called out on it, but I am told to shut up, it's in the past. They then continue to discuss that match for ten+ minutes until we have less than eight minutes on the next battle. "Hey we should pick a team for this,” as if they even care about winning. I’m at my limit at this point, so I just kick back and relax in teamspeak. I’ve got the tank, just gotta record what’s going on.

Lost on tundra against FELIX. Got destroyed against HAVOK on Sand River.

I talked at length with poor TheMightyAnon, who had an extremely poor opinion about Woody and O_P_Hacker. Woody especially cannot call to save his life, even when handed a strat. He just lacks the capacity to respond to what he sees, and more importantly, what he doesn’t see. He basically calls as badly as I do!

So, day 8 ends and we have two days left. We have like 10-20 people who can get the tank with just a couple more 5x wins, MightyAnon among them. That poor bastard can’t even play the next day, so he gives me his account info, and I take it upon myself to win him a tank. I message Woody to drop chips:

<23:41:58> "Chillsau": I suggest landing on Scranton, Pennsylvania tomorrow. It'll give us fights at ~7:30pm eastern
<23:42:22> "Woody27685": there is just no hope for us
<23:42:32> "Woody27685": people dont want to listen
<23:42:34> "Chillsau": then land on Scranton and give me a chance to get Mighty the tank
<23:42:52> "Chillsau": I'll call for one riot and get enough fame to get him the tank at least
<23:44:54> "Woody27685": it dont matter to me
<23:45:11> "Chillsau": sweet, drop chips on Scranton when you can
<23:45:50> "Chillsau": we'll also have up to two stacks unlocked tomorrow for west coast landings, and landing in the early slot will give us time to avoid overlapping battles

This mother fucker doesn’t even want his clan to win. gently caress him, I refuse to accept that. I go to sleep, and chips haven’t been dropped yet. I’m…worried that Woody will actively sabotage the Y0L0 members just to spite me.

Day 9 - Chips get dropped on the riot on Scranton – the only place to play Dragon Ridge – at the last possible turn, and I say I will call the fights. I call. We win easily four matches in a row. My strat is to put tanks in the center, then have those tanks hold W and shoot. I let them all know they will be TKed if they EVER peek and poke – only one of them needed to take a shot in the rear end for them to learn to stop peeking and poking. It’s messy, but we win the riot tournament, and take the land. Hooray!

I have a Skirmish after we hold that land, so I come up with a Mountain Pass strat, hand it over to O_P, and go make my gold. They then proceed to ignore my strat and go with their own. It doesn’t work. I barely make it into the CW fight before it kicks off. It’s a landowner fight against VILIN. They loving CAMP the center on Mountain Pass, from east spawn, and lose BADLY – less than 100 base XP on a loving 5x. Woody and OP are in autoloaders and get one or zero damaging shots each. I flip the gently caress out. They are actively sabotaging their clanmates’ chances to get the tank, and they don’t give a poo poo because gently caress You, Got Mine. I tell them as such in the teamspeak -

<00:06:52> You were banned permanently from the server by "Mike2048" (Disrespectful)

I then proceed to go the gently caress off in the game chat and in the clan chat after the game while logged into Mighty’s account, then log onto my own account to continue to berate them and end up getting kicked from the clan. Pastebin because chatlogs are boring, me flipping out is at the bottom - http://pastebin.com/P9KgSUaV

Day 10 – I’m no longer in the clan, and can no longer help them. Fortunately TheMightyAnon is back, and can play to try to get more fame…if he wanted to. He plays with them on Dragon Ridge, where they try something completely stupid (ignoring my success the previous night) and they lose badly. He really is just completely fed up and does not want to play with those chucklefucks anymore. We look at the fame point projections, the +5% safety net is projected at around 85900. Mighty’s got nearly 88000, so he just goes to sleep, content with barely making the tank. I go to sleep, a bit sad that I can’t really take credit for killing Y0L0 since Woody basically admitted he did not care if his clanmates got the tank or not. I suspect he and/or O_P intentionally sabotaged that VILIN match. Whatever, at least the campaign’s over and I got my tank.

TheMightyAnon ended up at position 3003.

DonkeyHotay
Jun 6, 2005

holy poo poo

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
loving ftr

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/26/i-dont-even/

Arishtat
Jan 2, 2011

I'm not sure whether to be amused or worried that you keep a WoT journal.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Arishtat posted:

I'm not sure whether to be amused or worried that you keep a WoT journal.

I had a bunch of .txt files with notes from my Campaign, since I set out to have fun on pubbie safari and planned to do a write-up afterwards anyway. I'm super glad I joined ROXY and IOC, since they were hilarious. I'm super bummed that Y0L0 went so loving badly though.

I wish other human beings didn't play this game. I tried, I really tried.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Wow, ultra perv mode. It's like they have never seen a pair of tits before or something. I wonder how many of them are middle-aged retards perving on some 19 year old girl.

Agrajag fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Feb 26, 2015

The Southern Dandy
Jun 15, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT MY RADLEY-WALTERS' MEDAL

Is that medal for being the most intolerable poster in a thread about Warhammer 40.000 novels? Because if it is, you sure blew the competition out of the water, son.

Arishtat posted:

I'm not sure whether to be amused or worried that you keep a WoT journal.

Right there with you on this

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

MoraleHazard posted:

Got it. I have the 105mm, 2 seconds is very meaningful, that should get me to under 10 seconds reload. I didn't think view range was as important in a heavy tank, but maybe that's ignorant. Turret it is. Turret > engine > radio now.

Tanks is a slow game. 2 seconds is nothing unless you are suiscouting which you shouldn't be.

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006


Wouldn't imo.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Please don't dox me.

yaay
Aug 4, 2006

to Accursed 2 leave armour
he's already taken it down. Stupid to link or even mention any names if you're doing an article like that in the first place. Gee I wonder what happens if I complain about titty streamers in my tank blog that gets a lot of traffic and then link to them. It's still enough to put her on the front page of the WoT stream and less than 50 viewers behind Orzanel. It's really loving sad to see poo poo like this.

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT

Hellsau posted:

...

TheMightyAnon ended up at position 3003.
Why must such an amusing tale end on a sad note. :negative:


And holy poo poo, are all american clans so bad, on EU my clan did great, yet until the last few days we were unsure if all of the active players would get the tank in the end. I don't understand how a bunch of people unwilling to listen and support their team are able to get near the needed fame points.

Rincewinds fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Feb 26, 2015

The Southern Dandy
Jun 15, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT MY RADLEY-WALTERS' MEDAL

Is that medal for being the most intolerable poster in a thread about Warhammer 40.000 novels? Because if it is, you sure blew the competition out of the water, son.

Rincewinds posted:

Why must such an amusing tale end on a sad note. :negative:


And holy poo poo, are all american clans so bad

It's poop all the way down.

mikemelbrooks
Jun 11, 2012

One tough badass
For the love of god how can a tier seven light tank out damage a platoon of tier tens?
I mean for why bother clicking battle?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Rincewinds posted:

Why must such an amusing tale end on a sad note. :negative:


And holy poo poo, are all american clans so bad, on EU my clan did great, yet until the last few days we were unsure if all of the active players would get the tank in the end. I don't understand how a bunch of people unwilling to listen and support their team are able to get near the needed fame points.

Because it isn't about being good or actually helping your team win, it's all about stats or posting on the forums. There's maybe ~500 actual good players on the NA server spread out among a lot of different clans, and then a couple thousand people who want to be good but don't put in the effort to improve, and a couple thousand more that put in the effort but aren't quite there yet.

And yeah, I really really wish I didn't play with Y0L0. I've been putting this off for a while because it's a huge downer of an ending. IOC was so good, I could have just joined a real clan to get the last couple thousand of fame. Seriously though if your clan leadership is as big of a piece of poo poo as Woody then there's very little you can do to change it.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

BadLlama posted:

Wouldn't imo.
Looks like it's gone now. What was it?

kemikalkadet
Sep 16, 2012

:woof:

Uranium 235 posted:

Looks like it's gone now. What was it?

Just some girl streaming. But you can see the tiniest bit of cleavage over her high cut top which is a Big Deal and warrants a news post on a high traffic news site.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
In the Service of the White Guards
At the end of WWI, the former Russian Empire was engulfed in another war, a civil war. It differed in degradation of tactics and a decrease in the technical level of forces involved. There were, however, exceptions. Modern weapons occasionally came into play, including tanks.

War with Limited Possibilities

The first tanks sent to the White Guard, 20 French Renault FT-17s, arrived in Odessa on December 18th, 1918. They were followed by heavy Mark V tanks and medium Whippets (85 vehicles in total on all fronts). In theory, among all the chaos, two or three working tanks were a weapon that could defeat any enemy. In reality, tanks faced many problems.

There was a lack of trained crews, so it was necessary to rely on British and French specialists. The first White Guard tankers were taught by foreign instructors. Several foreign volunteer units fought until 1920, but after that, only Russians kept fighting in tanks.

The biggest obstacle was the vast size of the fronts. During the offensive of Petrograd by N. Yudenich's army in the fall of 1919, tanks had to go into battle up to three times per day. Over only four days, "Captain Kromi" traveled 160 kph, "Brown Bear" a little less at 155, and "First Aid" traveled 130. For early tanks, these were very long distances. They wore out both the mechanisms and the crews.

There was no semblance of a normal supply line. In the chaos of the civil war, some tankers in the White Army, a rare and elite force, did not even have complete uniforms. One of them recalls: "I arrived at the tank battalion and received my clothing: a sailor's shirt, torn in many places, black pants in terrible condition, and a pair of boots with no soles. I had no cap, no socks, no underwear." Later, the English gifted him a fresh uniform. Unlike their tank crews, Russian crews did not receive a salary, had poor rations, and could not buy tobacco. Fuel had to be transported by horse carts.

Tank Fist of the White Army

Aside from obvious advantages, the appearance of tanks on the battlefield gave a psychological advantage. Even with heavy guns, the enemy did not know how to defeat moving armoured targets. Tank crews insisted that they took fire from 107 and even 220 mm guns, but the shells caused them no harm. "Cut through enemy obstructions, entered their trenches, and, despite a powerful artillery barrage, remained there for 25 minutes, allowing infantry to follow with no losses" was a typical excerpt from a tank commander's award order at the time.

The first tank attacks appeared unstoppable, despite their crude tactics. Loud tank engines gave away their location and cooperation with infantry and aircraft was questionable, but tanks achieved victory after victory. With his tanks, Denikin conquered Tsaritsin and the Donbass.

Red infantry still had no anti-tank weapons. Regular bullets bounced off armour. At most, bits of paint and metal that flaked off the inside scratched the tankers' faces and hands. Methods for anti-tank combat became more and more desirable. A vehicle knocked out by G. Briedres' Latvian gun battery was showed off in Petrograd as evidence that tanks were vulnerable.

By 1920, tactics of White tanks improved significantly. In Wrangel's push out of Crimea, tank units used concealment tactics, were equipped with trucks and motorcycles, and even had an electric generator and a medical unit. Cooperation with sappers and artillery was set up, as well as regular technical service for the vehicles. As a result, the Red front failed, and Wrangel broke through into Northern Tavriya.

A record of a battle at the Preobrazhenka farmstead describes how cavalry and artillery tried to destroy a tank. Cavalrymen dismounted, and hid among tree lines with grenades and machineguns. At first they threw grenades from a large distance, then from thirty paces, with little effect. The tank was not affected by rifle or machinegun fire. One of the Red Armymen walked in the tank's dead zone, knocking on the armour with a grenade, then climbed up on top, but was wounded by an explosion of his own grenade. Horse-drawn gun batteries went into action. In theory, the batteries were supposed to line up in a semicircle and shoot up the tank from the sides. However, fire from one thousand paces was imprecise, so one battery moved up to 500 paces. The tank was knocked out by fire from two batteries, but was then towed away by a second one.

Red Triumph at Kakhov

The culmination of tank use in the civil war happened at the Kakhov foothold on October 14th, 1920. The White offensive under Wrangel's command lined up according to best tactical practices and had a fair chance at success. In the early morning, artillery thundered, and 12 tanks attacked the Red positions with horsedrawn artillery, armoured cars, and infantry.

In an advantageous position, the Whites made several mistakes. They attacked 2.5 hours before dawn. Tanks could not see each other and had to fight individually. Artillery and aircraft could not offer timely support, and White infantry was preoccupied with Red infantry and was unable to help out its tanks.

Red Armymen were wisened by experience from previous attacks and came prepared. The foothold was reinforced with three lines of trenches, anti-tank ditches, mines, and even flamethrowers. Armoured cars armed with cannons were pulled up to the front. Red artillery knew how to fight tanks by this point. Special "dagger" batteries were used, firing from short distances. The result was the capture of five tanks. Wrangel's forces were defeated, and his army lost all hope for a successful offensive.

Article author: Evgeniy Belash

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012
Heart as aflutter

Draw
Cliff
Bat.-Châtillon 155 58
Experience received:1,540 Credits received 63,400
Battle achievements Top Gun, For Counter-Battery Fire, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

Repairs: -32 114
Ammunition: -93 600
Consumables: -20 000
Total: -82 314 WN8: 6 149 (100)

if I had ran away a bit before I fired the last shell, it would have been a win.

Oh well

Replay:


Hellsau, you are just playing it wrong, this is why I love the bat 155 58. The final blow was me getting too stupid, but there you go, that is why I say this tank works better in pub matches.

JuffoWup fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Feb 27, 2015

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

JuffoWup posted:

Hellsau, you are just playing it wrong, this is why I love the bat 155 58. The final blow was me getting too stupid, but there you go, that is why I say this tank works better in pub matches.

Every replay you post is 3-4 thousand damage. That's the BEST poo poo you can do in a 155-58? Just play any other nation's tier 8 or 9 and get the same results for less hassle.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Hellsau posted:

Every replay you post is 3-4 thousand damage. That's the BEST poo poo you can do in a 155-58? Just play any other nation's tier 8 or 9 and get the same results for less hassle.

Can you do that while shotgunning the other arty on the move as well? That is why I post them. That new arty medal was gained because their gw-e100 at the start was an idiot and didn't listen to 6th sense telling him he was spotted. So I shot him once I got my clip in. Then went on a tear at the end trying to carry my retarded team to victory. I made one poo poo mistake at the end that gave them a draw instead. But the end result was me hunting down both of their arty while using the mobility to keep away from the other tanks remaining. 4-5k is usually where I top out in damage dealt in any of my arty. By the time you have done 4-5k, the battle is pretty well decided.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
Only shotgun you should give a gently caress about is a can of beer.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
A pubbie that wants to join the Bundeswehr to die for Glorious Superior Germany. He's an 18 year old American, and this is his maybe 10th "Germany rules" thread in the past month. At least a real German promptly shows up and tells him to gently caress off.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Ensign Expendable posted:

A pubbie that wants to join the Bundeswehr to die for Glorious Superior Germany. He's an 18 year old American, and this is his maybe 10th "Germany rules" thread in the past month. At least a real German promptly shows up and tells him to gently caress off.

WHAT THE gently caress!

quote:

It has nothing to do with honor or bravery, I could care less about those ideologies.

I want to die like the soldiers above, just another casualty of war and forgotten, I want to rot away on the battlefield.

I'm not even suicidal in the slightest, it's just weird how dying on a battlefield is such a turn on for me

Would it be better for me to join the US Marine Corps or German Bundeswehr if I want a higher chance of action as well as casualty?

Agrajag fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Feb 27, 2015

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
He should join the Islamic State.

e: also anyone know the rewards for the Obj 260 missions? The T55-A's mission rewards are:

1-4 = 200k/100k creds
5-10 = 4x each gold consumable/150k creds
11-12 = 2000 free xp/garage slot
13-14 = 2000 free xp & premium day / premium day
15 = Comenndations and 250k creds for secondary

300k credits x4 x 5 is pretty great.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
He is probably on some kind of watch list.

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Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Agrajag posted:

He is probably on some kind of watch list.

There's always the Azov battalion if he doesn't want trouble with the yank letter agencies.

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