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IceAgeComing
Jan 29, 2013

pretty fucking embarrassing to watch

Cognac McCarthy posted:

I went out for Christmas eve drinks at a pub with the workers of the hostel in Stirling, Scotland I was staying at a few years ago, because my travel buddy and I were the only ones staying there. Apparently some Americans had come through a few years earlier and expressed surprise that there was broadband internet and electricity 24 hours a day in Scotland. :negative:

why would you come to stirling, its a shithole

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

site posted:

Well he's right, men usually aren't born with boobs and a vagina. Women aren't usually born with dicks.

Only when people are born with no sex organs shall we truly be equal.

:biotruths:
We're biologically female until the testosterone bath mutates our clitori and labia into male genitalia. :smug:

Checkmate, CPAC.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

FilthyImp posted:

We're biologically female until the testosterone bath mutates our clitori and labia into male genitalia. :smug:

Checkmate, CPAC.

Is this why men have nipples?

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

God gave men nipples as a mocking gesture to feminists. See, we have them and we don't even need to use them. :smug:

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.
So we can add "gender" and "equality" to the (long) list of things Crowder doesn't understand.

Equality isn't artificially making everyone equal. It's removing artificial bullshit that treats people as less than they are.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Guilty Spork posted:

So we can add "gender" and "equality" to the (long) list of things Crowder doesn't understand.

Equality isn't artificially making everyone equal. It's removing artificial bullshit that treats people as less than they are.

Racism doesn't exist because we don't have literal slavery.

Deep Hurting
Jan 19, 2006

SnakePlissken posted:

So his real claim to fame is he was Brain on "Pinky and the Brain"?

That was Maurice Lamarche, aka "the guy you call when you need Orson Welles' voice in something, now that Orson Welles is dead." They even had him dub Vincent D'onofrio for his appearance as a young Welles in Ed Wood.

Also Morbo, and Jay Sherman's belch.

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Satan gave humans tailbones to throw us off the truth of God's creation.

I read this in someone's bible fanfic so it has to be true.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

beatlegs posted:

That makes me feel like poo poo because I've been broke for the last year, doing odd jobs to get by. I got onto Medicaid. I see a doctor a few times a month, have had to go to the ER three times over the last year, had to have tests done for my heart, am on 3 medications, etc and I haven't paid a cent of my own money. It really pays to be poor when it comes to health care.

beatlegs posted:

Yes, but only because Medicaid was expanded under Obamacare a year ago. Otherwise I'd be completely hosed.

I think you might be me. I'm going to guess... Metoprolol, Amlodipine, and... Lisinopril? No, wait...maybe one of the hydros.

I found out my application for Medicaid had been accepted when I was being processed into the emergency room, and the intake lady says, "Did you know you had Medicaid?" I did not, but I know, now. My life has been a whirlwind of doctors, needles, and treadmills ever since. After nearly a year of the poor doctor who's been treating me saying, "Well, we really need to do X, but we can't because of your financial situation," I can finally do X.

I also was completely hosed until my state expanded Medicaid coverage as part of the ACA. Thanks, Obama!

I can honestly say that I was just as pro-universal health care a year ago, when I was making great money and was not aware that I had any health problems, as I am now. If I survive and get back on my feet, I will be glad to have an extra eight bucks per week or whatever come out of my paycheck if means other people don't have to sit around waiting to die because they can't get access to basic medical care. I don't care how good you think your reasons are. If you oppose something as basic and human as making sure your neighbors aren't living (and dying) in medical limbo, you can go ahead and rot in hell for ever and ever amen cross my heart hope to die gently caress you.

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

site posted:

Racism doesn't exist because we don't have literal slavery.

You joke but this is literally an argument I had to publicly deride when someone commented on an article I linked to fb the other day.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Did Crowder have some kind of regular wingnut welfare gig on Fox News channel for a while before getting relegated to Twitter attention whore hell? Like on Red Eye or The Five or some poo poo like that?

If so, what happened? Did they decide he was a little too much for them after goading that union guy into punching him?

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Zwabu posted:

Did Crowder have some kind of regular wingnut welfare gig on Fox News channel for a while before getting relegated to Twitter attention whore hell? Like on Red Eye or The Five or some poo poo like that?

If so, what happened? Did they decide he was a little too much for them after goading that union guy into punching him?

He picked a fight with Hannity, from what I recall, and then he got shitcanned.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



SnakePlissken posted:

So his real claim to fame is he was Brain on "Pinky and the Brain"? Why is he not running for president on the R- ticket then?

I don't think he's 35 yet.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

He played Brain on Arthur

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Centripetal Horse posted:

I think you might be me. I'm going to guess... Metoprolol, Amlodipine, and... Lisinopril? No, wait...maybe one of the hydros.

Arrythmia and high blood pressure, with a little arthritic knees thrown in. Fortunately my issues can be managed with medication. If I had something serious like heart failure or cancer I don't know what I'd do. That's why I'm being extra careful w/ diet, don't smoke, drink moderately etc. For your health.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Zwabu posted:

Did Crowder have some kind of regular wingnut welfare gig on Fox News channel for a while before getting relegated to Twitter attention whore hell? Like on Red Eye or The Five or some poo poo like that?

If so, what happened? Did they decide he was a little too much for them after goading that union guy into punching him?

His short time in the spotlight started with a stand up bit at cpac 2011 when some right wing commentators took notice and then he became a thing for a little while when he picked a fight with some Union guy on camera.

He was unable to leverage that notability beyond being a story of the week and since then has become increasingly more desperate for someone, anyone, to give a poo poo that he exists.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Thump! posted:

I don't think he's 35 yet.

Christ, he's 27.

I thought he was in his late 30s. Poor guy.

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
Because we derive most of our sustenance from the prey that we hunt, it is most efficient to send those among us in peak physical condition on hunting parties while the rest remain to fulfill other vital, yet less physically demanding tasks, such as rearing children and tanning the hides of our kills. Women have smaller frames and less muscle mass, on average, than men, so in aggregate it is optimal to exclude them from our hunting parties. It's too bad society works like that these days, but genders were never created equally. Deal with it.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



SnakePlissken posted:

So his real claim to fame is he was Brain on "Pinky and the Brain"? Why is he not running for president on the R- ticket then?
I remember Brain actively makes fun of Rush Limbaugh on at least one occasion.


Taeke posted:

To me (as a European) it was always incomprehensible that parents in US tv shows/movies would freak the absolute gently caress out if their kid did something mildly risky. "DON'T CLIMB THAT TREE, KEVIN!!!! YOU MIGHT FALL AND BREAK YOUR ARM!!!!" :byodame:

"So loving what?" I'd think. "Who hasn't spent 6 weeks of summer with their arm in a cast at some point in their childhood?"

Only later, when I actually became interested in US politics/society did it dawn on me that while for me and everyone I grew up with breaking an arm or a leg sucked but, hey, it happens no big deal, in the US it can cause some seriously hosed up financial problems. Even now it's an effort to understand not getting treatment or something checked out when you need to because it's such a no-brainer for me.
One thing I often wonder is how people in more developed countries react to the tons of American TV show and movie plots that revolve around people worrying about paying for health care or being afflicted by insurance issues. I keep hoping that one day a classroom of kids will be watching one and it'll be one of those things where the teacher has to stop the tape and explain to the bewildered and horrified class the historical context because it won't be done like that in the future :gbsmith:

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
This is one of the reasons I tell foreigners to watch Breaking Bad. The only developed country where the premise of the show even makes sense is the US.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

VideoTapir posted:

This is one of the reasons I tell foreigners to watch Breaking Bad. The only developed country where the premise of the show even makes sense is the US.

A whole bunch of former Soviet countries have had "universal health care" that's degenerated to the point where you actually need to supply huge bribes to get normal treatment.

Deep Hurting
Jan 19, 2006

Hazo posted:

I remember Brain actively makes fun of Rush Limbaugh on at least one occasion.

This may not be canon, but according to an episode of Freakazoid!, if the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor had been prevented, Brain would be President of the United States in 1995, and Rush Limbaugh would be a "bleeding-heart liberal."

Mr. Belpit
Nov 11, 2008

Soviet Commubot posted:

For a lot of them it's the idea that the free market is inherently more efficient than the government. Therefore the US system is inherently more efficient than these terrible socialized systems and anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or pushing an agenda, why would they lie like that otherwise? This idea is the basis of a lot of their economic beliefs and if they allowed that it wasn't a fundamental rule of economics then the whole thing falls apart. I spent a month in the hospital here in France a couple of years ago because of severe burns and one guy I know has steadfastly refused to believe my stories about my experiences. He's a poster boy for the influence right wing media, he makes very good money for the rural part of Michigan he lives in, probably $60k or so and still lives with his even more well off parents so has almost no bills. His parents listen to talk radio all day and he gets the daily summary from them at dinner. I visited Michigan few weeks ago and his family has three large safes full of guns now, including a half dozen AR-15 variants, a sweet Tavor and at least 20 pistols and a handful of bolt and lever action rifles, as well as at least 10k rounds of various calibers. Because of what Rush et al tell him through his parents he's convinced that Obama is going to take all his guns away and/or society is going to collapse any day now due to an excess of socialism. It also seems to have affected his perception of reality because after looking at this photo of my hospital room he has mentioned to me on numerous occasions about how tiny it was and it's terrible condition, once even mentioning the flaking paint on the walls, despite that being nothing like reality. To this day he thinks I was joking when I told him they had wifi there and that's why I had my iPad because in socialist Europe the Internet is not only scarce but closely controlled by the government.

That sums up most of my old childhood friends in Florida who've never left the town they were born in. I've gone on to live in various countries in Western Europe and East Asia and have spent a good deal of time in Canada, and said friends refuse to believe these other countries aren't just slightly less severe and Stalinist than North Korea.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

Hazo posted:

I remember Brain actively makes fun of Rush Limbaugh on at least one occasion.
One thing I often wonder is how people in more developed countries react to the tons of American TV show and movie plots that revolve around people worrying about paying for health care or being afflicted by insurance issues. I keep hoping that one day a classroom of kids will be watching one and it'll be one of those things where the teacher has to stop the tape and explain to the bewildered and horrified class the historical context because it won't be done like that in the future :gbsmith:

It's a lot like watching Seinfeld and realizing about 1/3 of the plots could've been solved by them having cell phones.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Mr. Belpit posted:

That sums up most of my old childhood friends in Florida who've never left the town they were born in. I've gone on to live in various countries in Western Europe and East Asia and have spent a good deal of time in Canada, and said friends refuse to believe these other countries aren't just slightly less severe and Stalinist than North Korea.

I was on the phone with my dad the other day and mused that I'd consider teaching English somewhere in Asia for a year or two if I can't get into grad school when I finish my undergrad. He told me not to go to South Korea because it's near a warzone.

Like, I realize that and know that if North Korea just completely snapped and shelled the hell out of Seoul or wherever it could, it would be pretty disastrous, but he like many people that watch cable news think North Korea is going to start dropping nukes on someone any day now.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

You people telling healthcare horror stories who can't understand why conservatives are against UHC: it's because conservatives tell the same stories but say it's because of Obamacare and if the government would just step back then doctors wouldn't have to overcharge and also there would be more doctors because many doctors are quitting because of Obamacare.

No, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't have to

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
And before the ACA, it was all stuff that doesn't happen in America, only in death-panel land.

edit: Another reminder:
http://www.pluralofanecdote.com/ Post your horror stories or non-American health care stories here

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

"After a decade of higher education and rigorous certification, I'm quitting and/or refusing to treat patients because their insurance premiums are being paid by a different source."
- a doctor

Forward this to your friends so we can fight the tyranny in Washington!

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Tender Bender posted:

You people telling healthcare horror stories who can't understand why conservatives are against UHC: it's because conservatives tell the same stories but say it's because of Obamacare and if the government would just step back then doctors wouldn't have to overcharge and also there would be more doctors because many doctors are quitting because of Obamacare.

No, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't have to

I once had a conversation with a far right coworker where I got him to acknowledge that a UHC system would be cheaper for everyone and we could still have privatized care for people who had the money and wanted to pay for it. He eventually said he didn't want that because he didn't like the idea of the government using his money to help people (with the implication that it would help people he didn't like, like lazy minorities). He was also an extremely devout Mormon. Compassion!

My favorite thing to do is ask conservatives if they are comfortable with people dying in the streets in America from starvation or treatable illnesses, because that's the end result if they were to have absolute control over government policy.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Apparently doctors are struggling from new documentation requirements that the ACA implemented causing doctors in private practices to move to hospitals. My girlfriend just started working at something like a doctor's co-opt that creates a centralized record system for local doctors.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Miltank posted:

Apparently doctors are struggling from new documentation requirements that the ACA implemented causing doctors in private practices to move to hospitals. My girlfriend just started working at something like a doctor's co-opt that creates a centralized record system for local doctors.

Often it seems ACA gets conflated with Meaningful Use requirements set by CMS (Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services) in order to receive incentive payments or to avoid penalties if you see Medicare or Medicaid patients. This precedes ACA/Obama. I wonder if that's what is happening here?

If these private practices were still using paper charts I could see how ACA might effect them and how a co-opt would work for them.

edit: there are all sorts of factors that can make a private practice move towards joining up with other practices or a hospital.

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT
Glad the man who derides other people's degenerative lifestyles looks 10 years old than he should. Guess all that no sex and no fun before marriage really kept him youthful looking.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Team equality doesn't exist but we still have salary caps and whatnot in pro sports. Boxing equality doesn't exist but we still have weight classes so there isn't just 5 people doing it professionally. The pencil necked pedantic republican professional crybaby racket isn't equal but we still let Stephen Crowder use twitter anyway.

parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

Often it seems ACA gets conflated with Meaningful Use requirements set by CMS (Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services) in order to receive incentive payments or to avoid penalties if you see Medicare or Medicaid patients. This precedes ACA/Obama. I wonder if that's what is happening here?

If these private practices were still using paper charts I could see how ACA might effect them and how a co-opt would work for them.

edit: there are all sorts of factors that can make a private practice move towards joining up with other practices or a hospital.

CMS created MU requirements because of HITECH which was part of ARRA, so while it precedes ACA it does not precede Obama being in office.

Of course at this point the eventual requirement to submit to CMS rules or face penalties has been known for six years so if doctors are struggling it's because they and their office staff haven't paid enough attention to what's coming down the line. Or maybe they made a bad decision on what EHR software to use because some of it is really terrible, and it's also ridiculously expensive so switching is a huge burden.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

quote:

SNL parodied the Islamic State terror group's recruiting of westerners, Fox News host Tucker Carlson expressed his disappointment Sunday on "Fox & Friends" that the show didn't go far enough in its comedy.

Here comes the laughs

quote:

“I’m kind of for comedy that goes as far as it can,” Carlson told his co-hosts. “But I always feel like with shows like 'SNL' and comedy in general, it does stop short of the sacred cows on the left.”

“I would love to see an 'SNL' sketch like making fun of transgender bathrooms, for example,” he added.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

Often it seems ACA gets conflated with Meaningful Use requirements set by CMS (Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services) in order to receive incentive payments or to avoid penalties if you see Medicare or Medicaid patients. This precedes ACA/Obama. I wonder if that's what is happening here?

If these private practices were still using paper charts I could see how ACA might effect them and how a co-opt would work for them.

edit: there are all sorts of factors that can make a private practice move towards joining up with other practices or a hospital.

It's not just that, certain provisions in Obamacare are incentivizing doctors to associate with hospitals because of changes in billing. It's actually a good thing that fixes a lot of redundancies but doctors will bitch about it.

A lot of it are other problems that have been going on in medicine for a while. Because of how medicine works in the US (and much of the rest of the world, this isn't actually a US-only problem) doctors have transitioned from a respected authority figure to basically a service provider. Doctors want respect as opposed to being a cog in the machine but the transition to "cog in the machine" is pretty unstoppable because that method pays a lot better. Doctors traded respect for fat stacks of cash and now want it both ways, all the respect and all the money.

It's a problem.

bpower
Feb 19, 2011

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Here comes the laughs

Sneering at the powerless; the foundation of good comedy.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

bpower posted:

Sneering at the powerless; the foundation of good comedy.

Unironically what conservatives believe.

Also Carlson has obviously never heard of Portlandia.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

mr. mephistopheles posted:

Unironically what conservatives believe.

Jesus wept.

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UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

parasyte posted:

CMS created MU requirements because of HITECH which was part of ARRA, so while it precedes ACA it does not precede Obama being in office.

Of course at this point the eventual requirement to submit to CMS rules or face penalties has been known for six years so if doctors are struggling it's because they and their office staff haven't paid enough attention to what's coming down the line. Or maybe they made a bad decision on what EHR software to use because some of it is really terrible, and it's also ridiculously expensive so switching is a huge burden.

Thanks for the correction. Here's a time line for this type of thing if anyone is interested: http://www.hitechanswers.net/ehr-adoption-2/history-of-ehr-adoption/

I was confusing the setup the Office of the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology with the HITECH Act.

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