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quote:Category 1: The common Dragon (NOTE: This got bumped up to uncommon during Development.) Wizards is trolling itself
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Mar 2, 2015 17:56
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Elyv posted:but where will they find a planeswalker stupid/crazy enough to follow nicol bolas and release the eldrazi, then? Hush hush, temporal causality is unaffected outside Tarkir because ??????
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Mar 2, 2015 17:57
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Sidisi owns bones. Straight up beats Siege Rhino and Tasigur in combat. Still costs an un-delveable 5 so if you can't reliably trigger his exploit then he might not see Standard play but if you can he's a sweet control card. If you steal an Ugin on less than 6 loyalty, then I feel like the correct play is -X for all his loyalty, because your opponent probably has answers to your Silumgar. He's just so vulnerable to removal that "Steal your Ugin, +2" seems like you're just helping your opponent ult in a U/B control deck. Maybe when you're stealing the Ugin as payoff card from a Green rampy deck.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:57
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Angry Grimace posted:Sidisi. More evil. Tell me if I'm out of line here but 4/6 Deathtouch w/ optional Diabolic Intent for 5 is a really good card. So is Silumgar the Eviler Sower of Temptation. And Rebound is fan-loving-tastic in every way and I'm glad to see it back. God I love spoiler season. 
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Mar 2, 2015 17:58
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I thought WotC said something along the lines of what happens on Tarkir doesn't affect the rest of the Multiverse?
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Mar 2, 2015 17:58
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Rinkles posted:Hush hush, temporal causality is unaffected outside Tarkir because ?????? It's actually pretty straightforward, no one from Tarkir got a spark from Ugin going down until now except for Sarkhan and he's the one who traveled through time so for some reason he hasn't changed.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:58
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Tell me if I'm out of line here but 4/6 Deathtouch w/ optional Diabolic Intent for 5 is a really good card. I think it's really strong in standard. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:So is Silumgar the Eviler Sower of Temptation. Silumgar, the Sower of Eat This Removal Spell and Accomplish Nothing on the Board
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Mar 2, 2015 18:00
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Megamoprh sounds like the laziest mechanic both in name and in play - but I predict it will play fine. Moprh is awesome, megamorph I'm sure will also be great and give you some flexibility between "creature now" and "better creature later". Like almost every mechianic, it's just a re-skinned version of kicker. I predict we'll also see a few megamorphers that grant additional abilities when turned face up (even though morph already does that). It reminds me of unleash, sounds boring on paper but in game it played pretty well. Rebound is awesome, I don't think they could have picked a better new jeskai mechanic. Remeber devour? No...well its basically exploit. I hope we get a few exploit creatures with flash. Bolster is fine, dash is fine. Formidable will be cool to break up some board stalls I bet.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:00
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Rinkles posted:Hush hush, temporal causality is unaffected outside Tarkir because ?????? Because I can play Sidisi, Sidisi, Silumgar, and Silumgar in the same deck and have 4 different cards with different effects. Sidisi has amazing synergy with Sidisi, even. Zombie tokens are worth flinging to Diabolic Intent!
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Mar 2, 2015 18:00
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Count Bleck posted:Refer back to my previous statement of: I don't think Sidisi is good at all. You're not even up a card and a 5 mana 4/6 is very meh.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:01
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The Nastier Nate posted:Remeber devour? No...well its basically exploit. I hope we get a few exploit creatures with flash. devour is not exploit because you could devour multiple creatures 
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Mar 2, 2015 18:01
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It's spoiler season guys, time to collect your mcmagic quotes.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:02
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mcmagic posted:I don't think Sidisi is good at all. You're not even up a card and a 5 mana 4/6 is very meh. I think you're underestimating the power of a generic tutor on a creature that wins fights with Siege Rhino and Tasigur.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:03
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mcmagic posted:I don't think Sidisi is good at all. You're not even up a card and a 5 mana 4/6 is very meh. I thought this too initially, then I remembered it was most likely going to get played with Satyr Wayfinder and OG Sidisi -- both being cards that leave behind a dork you've love to turn into a real card that can be literally anything in your deck. E: ^ Also that, it's a 4/6 deathtoucher, and that wins combat or trades with nearly everything relevant in this standard ^
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Mar 2, 2015 18:03
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Zoness posted:It's spoiler season guys, time to collect your mcmagic quotes. poo poo, right, I'm going to keep a bank of this stuff.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:04
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I want so badly to sac a Sultai Emissary to Zombie Sidisi in limited.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:05
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You can also use zomboSidisi as an over costed Diabolical Tutor, since you can sack it to itself.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:05
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TheKingofSprings posted:I thought this too initially, then I remembered it was most likely going to get played with Satyr Wayfinder and OG Sidisi -- both being cards that leave behind a dork you've love to turn into a real card. Liliana Vess is the same thing, you can do it again the next turn and you're not down a creature...
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Mar 2, 2015 18:05
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Rinkles posted:You can also use zomboSidisi as an over costed Diabolical Tutor, since you can sack it to itself. Or play it as literal Diabolic Tutor and whip it back from the grave
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Mar 2, 2015 18:05
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Zoness posted:It's spoiler season guys, time to collect your mcmagic quotes. I've already started the folder. Of images and also a .txt file.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:06
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mcmagic posted:I don't think Sidisi is good at all. You're not even up a card and a 5 mana 4/6 is very meh. new Sidisi straight up wins combat with nearly every standard staple right now, and still trades if she is bile blighted or stoked.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:06
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Elyv posted:By the way, I don't know how many of you read the preview articles, but Gottlieb's had an interesting section: This more or less confirms at least 26 dragons. For comparison, the set Theros had 20 enchantment creatures. KTK had 45 humans. That's a lot of dragons.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:06
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TheKingofSprings posted:Silumgar, the Sower of Eat This Removal Spell and Accomplish Nothing on the Board I'm not crazy about him, but 1) he's too fat to 1-for-1 burn spell that is getting regularly played, and 2) if they don't have the instant removal untapped that same turn, he can do rude poo poo like eat their planeswalker ult. Also if you're playing him in a circumstance where you don't care about the cost, i.e. Legacy Reanimator or desperate sideboard tech against Show and Tell, then he seems mainly better than sower. I like the mechanics for this set, I can imagine insane baller cards for all of them. Looking forward to the rest!
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Mar 2, 2015 18:06
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mcmagic posted:Liliana Vess is the same thing, you can do it again the next turn and you're not down a creature... You know that's vampiric tutor and not diabolic intent right And that Sidisi leaves behind a 4/6 body right And that you can sac your spent dorks that are no longer useful right
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Mar 2, 2015 18:07
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Yeah, it's 3BB for either a 4/6 deathtouch, or a Demonic Tutor, or both if you sac something else. Limited bomb for sure, but we'll have to see if it's constructed worthy.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:08
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Zoness posted:It's spoiler season guys, time to collect your mcmagic quotes. Count Bleck posted:I've already started the folder. Of images and also a .txt file. No one is ever wrong about newly spoiled cards so lets all be assholes the only person who is ever wrong and never right about anything. Par for the course. A big flaming stink posted:new Sidisi straight up wins combat with nearly every standard staple right now, and still trades if she is bile blighted or stoked. There are other 5 mana cards that win battles with Siege Rhino and Tasigur and see zero play.... That isn't enough to make her good.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:09
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Silumgar is cool but the fact that he's completely wiped out by any spot-removal kindof hurts his standard chances. Still probably good as a sideboard against stompy green decks that have large targets and no good way to deal with him. New Sidisi could fit into Sidisi whip maybe, but it seems a little slow to hardcast and not quite high enough impact to reanimate. 5 mana creatures in standard usually have to be bombs in their own right rather than just enablers, but maybe the stall combined with being able to fetch up combo pieces could make it work. Rinkles posted:You can also use zomboSidisi as an over costed Diabolical Tutor, since you can sack it to itself.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:10
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LordSaturn posted:I'm not crazy about him, but 1) he's too fat to 1-for-1 burn spell that is getting regularly played, and 2) if they don't have the instant removal untapped that same turn, he can do rude poo poo like eat their planeswalker ult. Stealing someone's Emrackles sounds hilarious actually.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:10
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I don't think siege rhino is very good it's just a leatherback baloth with trample that casts blood tithe that enters the battlefield.mcmagic posted:No one is ever wrong about newly spoiled cards so lets all be assholes the only person who is ever wrong and never right about anything. Par for the course. There's a difference between LSV being wrong about a card and Medina being wrong about a card, and you're the latter.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:13
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Entropic posted:Yeah, it's 3BB for either a 4/6 deathtouch, or a Demonic Tutor, or both if you sac something else. Limited bomb for sure, but we'll have to see if it's constructed worthy. Yeah, if only there were any good Token Generators in Standard right now. But there aren't. A shame, you have to sacrifice creature spells you cast since clearly there are no ways to make tokens. mcmagic posted:There are other 5 mana cards that win battles with Siege Rhino and Tasigur and see zero play.... That isn't enough to make her good. They aren't also diabolic intents on legs. Cards do more than one thing at a time sometimes. Please be aware of this. You noticed Sidisi is a tutor. You also noticed Sidisi wins those fights. Please put these together next time you post, if your brain can manage to consider more than one factoid at a time.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:13
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TheKingofSprings posted:I thought this too initially, then I remembered it was most likely going to get played with Satyr Wayfinder and OG Sidisi -- both being cards that leave behind a dork you've love to turn into a real card that can be literally anything in your deck. Yea this is my gameplan, she's pretty solid on her own but I'm gonna be using her with poo poo like the wayfinder where it's like 'ok you did your job, now get out of here and get me a real thing I can use'.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:14
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mcmagic posted:No one is ever wrong about newly spoiled cards so lets all be assholes the only person who is ever wrong and never right about anything. Par for the course. It less that and more that your predictions tend to be wrong on such a precise and accurate level that we can use your comments as a benchmark for predicting the opposite for the approaching standard. You're like a reverse oracle of trickiness or whatever.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:14
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mcmagic posted:No one is ever wrong about newly spoiled cards so lets all be assholes the only person who is ever wrong and never right about anything. Par for the course. You don't wanna get dogpiled? Don't spam your opinions like they're fact. State your case and just be done with it.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:16
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Yeah, if only there were any good Token Generators in Standard right now. But there aren't. Diabolic Intenting Elspeth tokens seems a bit win more.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:17
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mcmagic posted:Liliana Vess is the same thing, you can do it again the next turn and you're not down a creature... Ok, sultai decks play cards like satyr wayfinder, that you will never mind saccing to this. It is a 4/6 deathtouch creature, so it flat out beats almost all relavent creatures in combat in standard. It also has a tutor stapled to it, and it is a card dying to be slapped into a whip deck, or sultai control. This is standard playable vs. Abzan, Green devotion and RG monsters. Sultai control and the Sultai/Abzan whip decks will love this dude. poo poo UB control might even play it. Not super likely but it could happen.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:17
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Ramos posted:It less that and more that your predictions tend to be wrong on such a precise and accurate level that we can use your comments as a benchmark for predicting the opposite for the approaching standard. You're like a reverse oracle of trickiness or whatever. Yeah, this is utter bullshit. I'm right about some things and I'm wrong about others, just like everyone else in this thread.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:18
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Spiderdrake posted:Everyone else has been wrong about spoiled cards and I can recite some of my dumbest predictions from memory but you're the guy who argues incoherent nonsense at other people's predictions for page after page. You argued for pages that Sorin was unplayable right before it won a PT. Yes this is exactly it, it's not relevant who's right or wrong, but what's important is the thought process behind each evaluation.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:18
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Rinkles posted:Diabolic Intenting Elspeth tokens seems a bit win more. I mean sometimes you get to live the dream, and get nothing but absolute value out of your stuff. Sometimes, you're just the best.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:19
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Yeah, if only there were any good Token Generators in Standard right now. But there aren't. Yup, it's definitely
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Mar 2, 2015 18:19
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mcmagic posted:Yeah, this is utter bullshit. I'm right about some things and I'm wrong about others, just like everyone else in this thread. After KTK came out you were vehement that Abzan was the worst clan and Sultai was the best.... Maybe you are useful as a south-pointing compass.... or maybe just as a strategic ellipsis reserve....
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