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Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

Gamma Nerd posted:

Uneven Structure. Februus is an amazing album.

Frost > Hail best transition

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sat on my keys!
Oct 2, 2014

Von Sloneker posted:

If anyone was/is a fan of Epoch of Unlight, they're back, though just digitally at the moment:
http://epochofunlight.bandcamp.com/releases
Five songs, pay if/as you wish.

If you've never heard them, they're a sort of melodic blackened death band, somewhere between the Gothenburg sound and Dissection, a la God Dethroned, similarly using that Carcassy palm muted thrashy death riffing style, with lyrics straight out of a fantasy horror novel. (I've heard Brian Lumley influenced their earliest stuff, though there's definitely a Lovecraft touch.) Their most recent album, The Continuum Hypothesis, went in a more philosophical, even cosmological, direction. Then they kind of stopped putting out music. Now lo and behold, a half album's worth of very good new tunes.

They also were one of those early The End Records bands alongside Mental Home, Scholomance, Sculptured, even Agalloch. I remember a trader sent me a sampler from the label back in 1998 or 1999 and I was like, I MUST OWN ALL THESE GUYS' ALBUMS.

I liked this and that Maelstrom Aeterna track someone posted pages ago. I know basically nothing about melodeath. If I wanted other bands that are a good introduction, what should I try?

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

as if all this was something more
than another footnote on a postcard from nowhere,
another chapter in the handbook for exercises in futility

bartlebyshop posted:

I liked this and that Maelstrom Aeterna track someone posted pages ago. I know basically nothing about melodeath. If I wanted other bands that are a good introduction, what should I try?

Those are sort of two ends of the "melodic death" spectrum, so there's a zillion bands. If you like the more aggressive approach of EoU's riffing, you could go for something like The Crown or even Defleshed. -- or something more obscure, Excess of Cruelty or Gardenian. Most of those bands' sense of melody isn't quite that softened thing that "melodeath" bands employ. For that there's Insomnium, Omnium Gatherum, Be'Lakor, Septic Flesh, Scar Symmetry. Somewhere between the two is the aforementioned God Dethroned.

If you want to go back to the roots of it, there's Carcass' Heartwork and Dark Tranquillity's The Gallery and Skydancer. Maybe Edge of Sanity. Uh ... Opeth?

There will be something, or several somethings, I'm forgetting.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Frost > Hail best transition

Just checked it out and it does indeed rock

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

Von Sloneker posted:

There will be something, or several somethings, I'm forgetting.

Nice primer. I'd add At the Gates and In Flames. For modern stuff: Mors Principium Est and In Mourning

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
Definitely check out older Soilwork:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s83e_hG_D8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJxcqhH9mE8

And from the same vocalist, Disarmonia Mundi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nc6pt-BTZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUxT4Lhs-Wk

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Dark Tranquillity's Skydancer is really bad. Just listen to literally everything else they've done since. Plenty there.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah some of the newer Dark Tranquillity material is really solid:

e: well I guess Damage Done is from 2001 but still, Focus Shift was 2008 I think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F1W8HJLV5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwWWF1F2m8

henpod
Mar 7, 2008

Sir, we have located the Bioweapon.
College Slice
Weedeater are playing near where I live in Camden. Anyone else thinking of going? I don't really know them but quite like the idea of loud grooves. None of my friends like metal so I always end up going alone :(

henpod fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Mar 1, 2015

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS

henpod posted:

Weedeater are playing near where I live in Camden. Anyone else thinking of going? I don't really know them but quite like the idea of loud grooves. None of my friends like metal so I always end up going alone :(

I drove down to Chicago alone to see them and it was completely worth it. They are as good live as they are recorded and they are just fun to watch.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!
I'm wondering if any goons are interested in helping me out with something.

As some of you know, I run the site MetalTours.US and I'm looking for contributors who can act as local reps to keep shows and venues in their area accurate and up to date. I have a full location search on the site, but it's only as accurate as the event venue descriptions are. Most tour announcements only give the venue name and city, and are commonly innacurate (wrong city, venue name spelled wrong, etc). When I import them into the database on my website, the google map api has a hard time finding some of them. I'm probably at 60-70% accuracy now, but it's a huge pain in the rear end. This leads me to going to each individual venue and confirming the address is correct (I have over 700 venues already). Also, I'm just adding tours and don't get a lot of the smaller events (one-off shows, smaller fests, whatever) but I want to get as many events as I can on there.

Anyways, if any of you goons are interested, edit: you can register here http://metaltours.us/contribute/

Fiendish Dr. Wu fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Mar 2, 2015

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

henpod posted:

Weedeater are playing near where I live in Camden. Anyone else thinking of going? I don't really know them but quite like the idea of loud grooves. None of my friends like metal so I always end up going alone :(

the one in Philly at Kung Fu Necktie? strongly considering going to that, as well as another show with Vektor, Lich King and Condition Critical at that same location two Sundays from now on March 15.

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

as if all this was something more
than another footnote on a postcard from nowhere,
another chapter in the handbook for exercises in futility
My trip through melodic death metal's Hall of Heroes reminded me that Dam, the UK Carcass-inspired band with a Hebrew name that I can't properly type on this keyboard, was really good and deserved more attention. They took the Necroticism/Heartwork sound, or at least certain aspects of it in the same way that, say, Deeds of Flesh made a career out of Suffocation's more extreme idiosyncrasies, and went crazy disjointed with it. Somehow they managed not to sound like the Swedish death metal wave of the 90s, too. You'll hear all kinds of influences.
http://youtu.be/mxfnqOq1NKk

Both albums, The Difference Engine and Purity: The Darwinian Paradox, rule. Speaking of Purity, here's one from that:
http://youtu.be/yvbI6aEbr88

vvvvv
edit: neat

Von Sloneker fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Mar 2, 2015

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

Von Sloneker posted:

My trip through melodic death metal's Hall of Heroes reminded me that Dam, the UK Carcass-inspired band with a Hebrew name that I can't properly type on this keyboard, was really good and deserved more attention. They took the Necroticism/Heartwork sound, or at least certain aspects of it in the same way that, say, Deeds of Flesh made a career out of Suffocation's more extreme idiosyncrasies, and went crazy disjointed with it. Somehow they managed not to sound like the Swedish death metal wave of the 90s, too. You'll hear all kinds of influences.
http://youtu.be/mxfnqOq1NKk

Both albums, The Difference Engine and Purity: The Darwinian Paradox, rule. Speaking of Purity, here's one from that:
http://youtu.be/yvbI6aEbr88

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alt+0195 Ã
:smugbert:

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
Since we don't have a classic hard rock thread that I can find, I'm just gonna come here with this: Goddamn, Europe have come a long loving way since their cheesy cock rock days.

I've been digging their post-comeback material for quite a few years now, and having just grabbed their newest album I think it just might be their best effort yet. It's a drat great mix of bluesy, groovy 70s buzz and Hammond organs and some more modern sensibilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK6OkO6K97s

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Von Sloneker posted:

My trip through melodic death metal's Hall of Heroes reminded me that Dam, the UK Carcass-inspired band with a Hebrew name that I can't properly type on this keyboard, was really good and deserved more attention. They took the Necroticism/Heartwork sound, or at least certain aspects of it in the same way that, say, Deeds of Flesh made a career out of Suffocation's more extreme idiosyncrasies, and went crazy disjointed with it. Somehow they managed not to sound like the Swedish death metal wave of the 90s, too. You'll hear all kinds of influences.
http://youtu.be/mxfnqOq1NKk

Both albums, The Difference Engine and Purity: The Darwinian Paradox, rule. Speaking of Purity, here's one from that:
http://youtu.be/yvbI6aEbr88

vvvvv
edit: neat

Thãnks, these guys ãre cool.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
hey so Gravewurm (I guess they dropped the umlaut) is doing a little US tour with Sathanas and some other people.

WEDNESDAY April 1st : Hyattsville, MD with SATHANAS and others tba @ Leyla's Restuarant ( Schizophrenia Hall )
THURSDAY April 2nd : Atlanta, GA with SATHANAS and others tba @ Club 529
FRIDAY April 3rd : Tampa, FL with SATHANAS, Promethean Horde and others tba @ The Brass Mug
SATURDAY April 4th : Orlando, FL with SATHANAS, Druid Lord, Killing Addiction @ The Hourglass Brewery

SATURDAY July 11th : Lakewood, OH with Funeral Nation and others tba @ The Foundry
SUNDAY September 6th : Cleveland, OH ( Hells Headbash II )


If you aren't familiar with them they sound like this, at least these days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjsH_ZPcOQU

The sound hasn't really changed much over the last twenty years though.

EkoEkoAzarak
Nov 3, 2005
Vulgar Display of Power
If yall like old school grindcore and sludge, give this a listen: http://www.nocleansinging.com/2015/03/02/an-nce-premiere-occult-45-human-abhorrence/#more-87369

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
:siren: The new Enslaved album is streaming on Youtube :siren:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvcXnDl1GM

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Gravewurm has some cool music and I like what they do, but they put out a ridiculous amount of music just like Nunslaughter and it is pretty consistently good for an occasional listen, but otherwise mostly lackluster. I saw the band last summer and they were really not good. It was interesting to watch what Funeral Grave was playing, but that's about it. It probably had to do with the band's lineup, which was Jim from Nunslaughter on drums and a local bassist, which was different than the lineup from their album released a few months earlier, and has since been replaced by an entirely different lineup. It's a cool band, but the lineup other than the mainman has been cobbled together from an endless rotating cast of friends. Maybe this is finally a solid lineup if they're doing half a dozen shows, or maybe it's just thrown together for HHB.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Arivia posted:

Dark Tranquillity's Skydancer is really bad. Just listen to literally everything else they've done since. Plenty there.
It's a spotty album, but it's a long way off from "really bad." Crimson Winds, Shadow Duet, and My Faeryland Forgotten are awesome tracks, and most of the others have enough decent riffs to carry them despite the lack of underlying structure across most of the album.

Speaking of 1993 melodeath, Sentenced used to be really loving good before they turned into a bad goth-rock band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKkbdKmixpk

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 2, 2015

Xenochrist
Sep 11, 2006


sticklefifer posted:

:siren: The new Enslaved album is streaming on Youtube :siren:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvcXnDl1GM

On my third listen. It's pretty good, but I'd say a notch below RIITIIR and AEO, though that's not surprising - even though Enslaved is consistent as hell those 2 albums are so great and would be hard to top.

The second half of the album is stronger than the front-end, I'd say. Nauther Bleeding is a really great track.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Misogynist posted:

before they turned into a bad goth-rock band:

You take that right the gently caress back. Sentenced was glorious in all its forms.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Hulk Krogan posted:

You take that right the gently caress back. Sentenced was glorious in all its forms.

quote:

I'll kill myself,
I'll blow my brains onto the wall.
See you in Hell,
I will not take this anymore.
Now this is where it ends, this is where I will draw the line,
So excuse me while I end my life.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

MrBling posted:

It's a demo, I'm sure you can pirate it without hurting anyones feelings.

Yeah I dug up an mp3 download over the weekend.

I really dig the guitar work.


Also, they sampled the Ezekial speech from Pulp Fiction which is pretty funny. In 1996 that was basically a meme.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
It's cute how you think this actually proves some kind of point. :allears:
If we had to totally dismiss bands just because of stupid lyrics, there wouldn't be a whole lot left to listen to.

Sentenced made some fantastic melodeath, then they went on to make some fantastic melodic rock/metal/whatever. They wrote some stupid mopey lyrics and some great mopey lyrics. Also some mopey lyrics that were great in their stupidity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxfQE9tXmk

On day zero my mother was expecting the worst
And out of my fatherīs rear end I was born, feet first

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Sepultura are doing a 30th anniversary tour with Destruction and Arsis. Also some lovely deathcore. Are they worth seeing with no Cavaleras? I like the other two bands.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
I would go just for arsis

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012
more like arses

(don't go)

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Nordick posted:

It's cute how you think this actually proves some kind of point. :allears:
If we had to totally dismiss bands just because of stupid lyrics, there wouldn't be a whole lot left to listen to.

Sentenced made some fantastic melodeath, then they went on to make some fantastic melodic rock/metal/whatever. They wrote some stupid mopey lyrics and some great mopey lyrics. Also some mopey lyrics that were great in their stupidity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxfQE9tXmk

On day zero my mother was expecting the worst
And out of my fatherīs rear end I was born, feet first

this seems like a lot of effort just to defend music for finnish dads

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
There is nothing more worth dying for than finnish fathers

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Nordick posted:

It's cute how you think this actually proves some kind of point. :allears:
If we had to totally dismiss bands just because of stupid lyrics, there wouldn't be a whole lot left to listen to.

Sentenced made some fantastic melodeath, then they went on to make some fantastic melodic rock/metal/whatever. They wrote some stupid mopey lyrics and some great mopey lyrics. Also some mopey lyrics that were great in their stupidity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxfQE9tXmk

On day zero my mother was expecting the worst
And out of my fatherīs rear end I was born, feet first


This is slow and boring but not the right kind of slow and boring.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Misogynist posted:

this seems like a lot of effort just to defend music for finnish dads
Actually it was a pretty short post and not much effort at all. :shrug:

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!
I don't listen to bands that have dumb lyrics.

I don't listen to metal. Except Ghost, I saw them at Coachella and they're so original! :ghost:

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS
I thought we just all assumed Nordick is an actual finnish dad

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
Nah, I don't have kids, thank goodness. I have a cat though, does that count?

b0ner of doom
Mar 17, 2006
That Sentenced song was seriously godawful

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012

Nordick posted:

On day zero my mother was expecting the worst
And out of my fatherīs rear end I was born, feet first


finally someone makes a song about mpreg

also North From Here is a loving amazing album and I wish more metal sounded like it.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

Xenochrist posted:

On my third listen. It's pretty good, but I'd say a notch below RIITIIR and AEO, though that's not surprising - even though Enslaved is consistent as hell those 2 albums are so great and would be hard to top.

The second half of the album is stronger than the front-end, I'd say. Nauther Bleeding is a really great track.

I more or less agree, though I do really like some of the folky touches in there, like the acoustic passages and the Nordic chants. It doesn't have as many peaks and valleys but it is really solid throughout, and they're trying some new things as they always do.


edit: The more I listen to it, the more I really like it. It's a bit of a grower.

sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Mar 4, 2015

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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

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Henchman of Santa posted:

Sepultura are doing a 30th anniversary tour with Destruction and Arsis. Also some lovely deathcore. Are they worth seeing with no Cavaleras? I like the other two bands.

Probably not, I dont care if Derrick Green only does Beneath the Remains and Arise, that band is dead to me - especially without Max. Not that Max has done anything worth a gently caress either. CC is poo poo. Soulfly is poo poo. gently caress em.

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