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sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Samsung ditched microSDs for the S6, and Sandisk just announced a 200 GB microSD card.

How the gently caress was Rosy Palms there the best hand model choice?

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butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
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bull3964 posted:

Verizon Galaxy Nexus wasn't any larger than the GSM Galaxy Nexus and it had LTE.
It was different enough that you couldn't swap cases between the two.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

Endless Mike posted:

Only when it's on.

That plus the added power drain is less then extra power you get from cramming a bigger battery in.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


butt dickus posted:

It was different enough that you couldn't swap cases between the two.

It was half a mm thicker, that's all.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I didn't see anyone mention Android Pay.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/2/8131861/android-pay-google-mwc

This kinda dovetails into what what Visa announced at the end of last week about adding the ability to do mobile payments with partner apps. I don't think that those apps are using android pay (because it isn't out yet), but it looks to be the way things are going.

Wallet will still exist and will leverage Android Pay, but it's far more likely that your bank's app will be used to do a mobile payment rather than Wallet itself.

Google is apparently in talks with Samsung on how it can align their new payment stuff with Android Pay.

So, essentially, Google Wallet is dead long live Google Wallet.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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bull3964 posted:

Verizon Galaxy Nexus wasn't any larger than the GSM Galaxy Nexus

bull3964 posted:

It was half a mm thicker
To be fair to you, I think the difference was because they put a larger battery in the Verizon model, not because the LTE chip required that much more space.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Hmm, there's rumors going around that LG is going to make another Nexus. If so, hope it's another rather minimalist design a la N5.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


butt dickus posted:

To be fair to you, I think the difference was because they put a larger battery in the Verizon model, not because the LTE chip required that much more space.

Yeah, the phones themselves are physically the same size. They just put a different and slightly larger battery in the Verizon one which caused the back indent to be slightly less shallow leading to the 0.5mm minimum thickness difference.

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>

Combat Pretzel posted:

Hmm, there's rumors going around that LG is going to make another Nexus. If so, hope it's another rather minimalist design a la N5.

I can't wait for the new Nexus 7

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Hace posted:

I can't wait for the new Nexus 7

Man, if they get a new Nexus 7 out there with a 1440 x 2560 screen, 3gb RAM, wireless charging, and a not-Nvidia SoC, I will drop kick my N9 so hard it will reach orbit.

On another note, Google is no longer requiring FDE on devices launched with 5.0.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/03/google-quietly-backs-away-from-encrypting-new-lollipop-devices-by-default/

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Hace posted:

I can't wait for the new Nexus 7
I hope they roll another 5" device.






Who am I kidding...

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.

Three Olives posted:

It's funny how this is now the prevailing wisdom when it wasn't that long ago that phone makers were very upfront that phones were getting bigger because LTE chipsets and the processors that Android needed not to run like dog poo poo required bigger batteries and the batteries were driving screen size.

I'm not saying it isn't true that consumers don't happen to like big screens but it was more a happy coincidence, they were forced on us and in a world that the carriers weren't trying to push their LTE networks with immature chipsets and scared as poo poo of Apple's growing power might have been different.

There's more to it than that. Android phones were fat monstrosities pre-LTE too because manufacturers couldn't be bothered to use anything aside from cheap bulky plastic shells that were holdovers from dumbphone days when it didn't matter that your phone body was constructed at the same factory as a tonka truck.

Plus, any phone that wasn't at least x larger than an iphone was immediately compared to it when shopping. Hmm, should I get the Apple iPhone that is 3.5 inches and does everything or should I get this HTC Excite ES that is 30% thicker and looks like an old tv remote? Making the phone larger was the only way to immediately separate android phones from iPhones. Battery size was always a complete afterthought behind chasing spec sheet bullet points.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
So the S6 is definitely USB2.0 only, right? Seems weird, though I can think of some possible reasons they'd go backwards on that front

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>

bull3964 posted:

Man, if they get a new Nexus 7 out there with a 1440 x 2560 screen, 3gb RAM, wireless charging, and a not-Nvidia SoC, I will drop kick my N9 so hard it will reach orbit.

It's going to have all that with an Intel Inside sticker on the box

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

TheQat posted:

So the S6 is definitely USB2.0 only, right? Seems weird, though I can think of some possible reasons they'd go backwards on that front

The Note 4 went back, too. Mostly from customer confusion, not knowing that they could use their existing micro-usb cables with those 3.0 slots.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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Hace posted:

It's going to have all that with an Intel Inside sticker on the box
I'm starting a rumor that Dell is making the new Nexus 7.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Hace posted:

It's going to have all that with an Intel Inside sticker on the box

I don't see that as any sort of significant issue.

Though, I really doubt Google is going to make another N7 at all.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Santas Ainol Elf posted:

There's more to it than that. Android phones were fat monstrosities pre-LTE too because manufacturers couldn't be bothered to use anything aside from cheap bulky plastic shells that were holdovers from dumbphone days when it didn't matter that your phone body was constructed at the same factory as a tonka truck.

Plus, any phone that wasn't at least x larger than an iphone was immediately compared to it when shopping. Hmm, should I get the Apple iPhone that is 3.5 inches and does everything or should I get this HTC Excite ES that is 30% thicker and looks like an old tv remote? Making the phone larger was the only way to immediately separate android phones from iPhones. Battery size was always a complete afterthought behind chasing spec sheet bullet points.

I'm sorry, my HTC Desire was thinner than the contemporary iphone :colbert:

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


mobby_6kl posted:

I'm sorry, my HTC Desire was thinner than the contemporary iphone :colbert:

Hell, the OG Droid was only 1.4 mm thicker than the iPhone 3GS and it was a keyboard slider.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

butt dickus posted:

I'm starting a rumor that Dell is making the new Nexus 7.

I saw a leaked pic of Huaweii Nexus 8 a few days ago,.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Web Jew.0 posted:

^Sony Z3 and Z3 Compact.


the M7 and M8/M9 are debatably as different as the iPhones 4/4S and 5/5S.

True. And I never really liked Apple's tick phones because it just felt like preparing for the next tock. 4 to 4S was a joke because all you got was Siri, faster internals, and the ability to hold your phone and still have a signal.

Samsung does the same poo poo also but they usually add more for the change. S3-S4? Bigger screen, more square-ish, improved resolution. I want to argue that S4 to S5 was a joke but waterproofing seems useful.

As for the VZW Galaxy Nexus (aka the worst nexus), I shoved the official extended battery in there (they had a bigger battery on top of the larger one they came with standard) and it required a new back panel. Still fit in my old cases, although it was a Diztronic so it was flexible.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Logikv9 posted:

True. And I never really liked Apple's tick phones because it just felt like preparing for the next tock. 4 to 4S was a joke because all you got was Siri, faster internals, and the ability to hold your phone and still have a signal.


I don't see how faster internals is a minor thing at least not back then. Nowadays maybe it doesn't matter so much but the performance jump from the 4 to 4S was enough that it fundamentally changed how you could use the phone.

Also the 4S camera was much, much better

MrBond
Feb 19, 2004

FYI, Cheese NIPS are not the same as Cheez ITS

bull3964 posted:

Verizon Galaxy Nexus wasn't any larger than the GSM Galaxy Nexus and it had LTE. Didn't prevent it from being a piece of poo poo, but it really didn't affect the size any and the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus wasn't really that far off in battery life.

Didn't the VZ GNex have atrocious standby battery life?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


MrBond posted:

Didn't the VZ GNex have atrocious standby battery life?

I really don't think it was any worse than the GSM one. A coworker and I both had them, his was on AT&T and mine was on Verizon and we both got roughly the same standby.

Now, if you were using the LTE full tilt streaming video or something, it hit the battery hard.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

dissss posted:

I don't see how faster internals is a minor thing at least not back then. Nowadays maybe it doesn't matter so much but the performance jump from the 4 to 4S was enough that it fundamentally changed how you could use the phone.

Also the 4S camera was much, much better

Certainly with later iOS updates, but right off the bat I felt that the software optimizations were enough so both phones still felt "smooth", much smoother than whatever Android version was top tier at the time. Of course, one was certainly faster than the other but it really was only in retrospect and in comparison. Nowadays the phones are night and day in regards to running the newest versions of iOS, although "day" is still poo poo.

4S had a better camera, but so did the M7/M8 to M9. Duo camera doesn't count. It's just with how the upgrade cycles go, unless you really needed a new phone at the time, it was always worth just waiting for the next version because you knew it would bring a bigger change compared to just going from # to #S.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner
Yeah, the jump from 4 to 4S was ridiculous; my partner had a 4 and I had a 4S and even pre-iOS7 (when poo poo started to go downhill) mine was a hell of a lot faster.

I'm honestly not sure if the jumps would be that big anymore since it seems Apple is focusing more on adding features rather than speed, but I haven't used an iPhone since my 4S.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I just saw a long Samsung ad in the middle of the evening news in the UK, showing the event unveiling of the S6, people using it on the show floor, and then a couple of PR people talking about how nice all the features are. I don't really watch much TV but I don't think they usually livestream launch events into primetime ad slots

I think they'll be pushing this one cyber hard

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

MrBond posted:

Didn't the VZ GNex have atrocious standby battery life?

The battery was equally as bad, at least as far as I can tell from having a couple GSM models in our test device drawer and from having owned a Verizon one myself. The GSM one had the same bad battery life, awful camera, and the USB port that was guaranteed to eventually disconnect itself internally and leave you with no way to charge the phone.

The Verizon one was also buggy and flaky in terms of "being a phone" and "using data," as was just about every other CDMA+LTE device from 2011.

bronin
Oct 15, 2009

use it or throw it away
Guys, I don't know what's wrong with me but I'm actually kinda interested in the Galaxy S6.
Bright display, great camera, no plastic, a finger print reader that supposedly works and built in qi charging.

What is happening :magical:

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

bronin posted:

Guys, I don't know what's wrong with me but I'm actually kinda interested in the Galaxy S6.
Bright display, great camera, no plastic, a finger print reader that supposedly works and built in qi charging.

What is happening :magical:

Id be interested in the s6 edge but I'm firmly on the Note path now, the Note 5 should be pretty magical.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


bronin posted:

Guys, I don't know what's wrong with me but I'm actually kinda interested in the Galaxy S6.
Bright display, great camera, no plastic, a finger print reader that supposedly works and built in qi charging.

What is happening :magical:

Samsung hardware has been top notch for a long time. Now the exterior is high end, so you should like that side of it. Software is still the weakness.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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ruby idiot railed posted:

Id be interested in the s6 edge but I'm firmly on the Note path now, the Note 5 should be pretty magical.
I'm guessing the Note line is going to keep the SD card slot as it's geared more towards enthusiasts. Not sure about the battery.

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
Why is metal and glass considered high end when they are clearly inferior materials to make a phone out of? Plastic is lighter, deals with shocks better, cheaper, doesn't block radio signals and returns to its original form after it has been bent. Who are all these people who insist on more glass on their phone that can break?

testtubebaby
Apr 7, 2008

Where we're going,
we won't need eyes to see.


NihilismNow posted:

Why is metal and glass considered high end when they are clearly inferior materials to make a phone out of? Plastic is lighter, deals with shocks better, cheaper, doesn't block radio signals and returns to its original form after it has been bent. Who are all these people who insist on more glass on their phone that can break?

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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NihilismNow posted:

Why is metal and glass considered high end when they are clearly inferior materials to make a phone out of? Plastic is lighter, deals with shocks better, cheaper, doesn't block radio signals and returns to its original form after it has been bent. Who are all these people who insist on more glass on their phone that can break?

I dunno, but Samsung obviously felt like being "the cheap looking phone" was causing them to lose market share. I always have a case personally so I almost feel like I shouldn't buy an HTC One or whatever since it's such a waste.

baka kaba posted:

I just saw a long Samsung ad in the middle of the evening news in the UK, showing the event unveiling of the S6, people using it on the show floor, and then a couple of PR people talking about how nice all the features are. I don't really watch much TV but I don't think they usually livestream launch events into primetime ad slots

I think they'll be pushing this one cyber hard

On that note, time to check out some cyber babe... what the heck !

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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So Samsung gave up and made the iPhone?

I remember all my Samsung nutswinger friends raving about their waterproof phones, sdcard slots, etc.

Looks like they finally made a nicely built phone.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

It's like Samsung developed stockholm syndrome from spending so much time in Lucy Koh's courtroom and wants to go back.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe

NihilismNow posted:

Why is metal and glass considered high end when they are clearly inferior materials to make a phone out of? Plastic is lighter, deals with shocks better, cheaper, doesn't block radio signals and returns to its original form after it has been bent. Who are all these people who insist on more glass on their phone that can break?

There are different types of plastic to choose from. Some phones use plastics which feel great in the hand and are awesome, like Motorola and Nokia stuff, or the Nexus 5/7. Other phones use plastic that feels slimy or greasy, or is a fingerprint magnet, or is oddly inspired by a Band-Aid, or is strangely leather-ish, and refuse to use a premium plastic despite years of complaints.

Samsung has always made the Other Phones.

FistEnergy fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 2, 2015

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

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ALL OF THEM

Three Olives posted:

It's funny how this is now the prevailing wisdom when it wasn't that long ago that phone makers were very upfront that phones were getting bigger because LTE chipsets and the processors that Android needed not to run like dog poo poo required bigger batteries and the batteries were driving screen size.

I'm not saying it isn't true that consumers don't happen to like big screens but it was more a happy coincidence, they were forced on us and in a world that the carriers weren't trying to push their LTE networks with immature chipsets and scared as poo poo of Apple's growing power might have been different.

This isn't why big phones happened at all. Big phones happened because they were a way to differentiate Android phones from iPhones.

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isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE
Ikea will be selling Qi enabled furniture starting mid-April. UK and online only to start it looks like, and they'll have charging covers for iPhones and Samsungs.

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