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Unguided posted:The inmates are running the asylum. The inmates are demolishing the asylum. If it's all true, the fishy thing to me is that PWE hasn't stepped in, given the metrics and responses.
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Yeah, at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if certain Cryptic employees "left to pursue new opportunities" in the near future. All I know is if I were in charge of things and I saw the response right after Delta Rising, I would have done a massive damage control effort rather than doubling down on the bullshit. At this point it's probably too late to get players back without some massive and very visible changes.
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Mar 4, 2015 04:12
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Asimo posted:Yeah, at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if certain Cryptic employees "left to pursue new opportunities" in the near future. Honestly it doesn't seem that difficult on paper. Launch a new expansion focused on something universally loved - TNG. Promo it being all about the players, making the endgame accessible and encouraging players by taking the above suggestions re ship and item levelling. Watch it fail to happen.
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Mar 4, 2015 04:22
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Somehow I doubt that would work. They already hosed up the game on launch, spent more than three years digging themselves out of that hole only to flush all that work right back down the drain. Fool me once and all that.
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quote:Between another limited time promotion so quickly after the Sheshar, and it being the first time a special ship has literally outright replaced an old one, this absolutely reeks of desperation. Just saw some patriot post this on reddit. Scrolled up to attribute properly and its loving Asimo.
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Mar 4, 2015 04:28
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Re: SWToR Sad Pandas (pubbie PvP group with a good number of goons in it) moved on to ToR a while ago. It's apparently pretty decent now and the PvP is great so long as you don't mind paying $15 a month. It's not F2P past the story line, which I've enjoyed a good bit so far. If I were to play a MMO again it would more than likely end up being this one, and I've enjoyed what I've played so far as of level 10ish, but that may be because I haven't reached the MMO part of it yet; I haven't gotten much further because I don't want to play any MMO at the moment. The grind isn't bad and the devs aren't completely incompetent. Of course this is just stuff I've heard from a couple of people so take it as you will. They also tell me there's a ton of PvP on the RP servers, so not only do they get their fill of PvP but they get to mess with weirdos constantly. Also everyone has max boob slider! 
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SKY COQ posted:Just saw some patriot post this on reddit. Scrolled up to attribute properly and its loving Asimo. 
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If this game dies I'm going to miss annoying its unique playerbase.Lagomorphic posted:Yeah on the one hand the whole thing is a super lovely dick move. On the other hand making you buy all of your overpriced poo poo again is the whole point of raising the level cap so anyone with any sense has seen this coming for months. There was no good way for them to do this. They couldn't do another sale of the old bugship because it's outdated and the space rich already have it. They couldn't give it out as a free upgrade for previous owners because again, the space rich already have it and wouldn't need to buy boxes.
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To me do we even need new ships every two weeks? In the past two months they came out with the new breen ship, then a month later the most recent lockbox ships, then the Kobali ship a couple weeks after that, and then they just released nine new command ships in the store, now there's this ship, and I'm pretty sure I missed some other give away or reward gamble event in between there. edit: and a month before that was the sheshar, then a month before that was the nine or whatever new store DR intel ships plus the two or three lock box ships the expansion launched in more ships edit: oh and the new intrepid store ship that had the t6 intrepid with limited time bonuses sale somewhere in there too that's like...almost thirty ships or something in the past four months, in a game with terrible balance and a ton of ships to begin with Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Mar 4, 2015 04:45
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I got banned from using the customer service to post tickets in this buggy game 
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It's almost like people have stopped And I guess it's easier to tank interest with a deluge of promotions rather than actually fixing the hosed up gameplay.
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Mar 4, 2015 04:53
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Unguided posted:If this game dies I'm going to miss annoying its unique playerbase. So much for the only MMO I've found which was casual enough for me to make it to end game and actually participate. A combination of gamer ADD and lack of time to play means that I've never made it to max level in any other MMO I've tried. Oh well. There's plenty of stuff in my steam backlog I can play instead.
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Yeah, that's the sad thing. STO was the only really super-casual MMO on the market. No queue took more than twenty minutes or so, there wasn't any raid-style bullshit, and it wasn't a big deal to alt tab or something if anything came up, and there was absolute boatloads of character customization. There's nothing really like it.
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Mar 4, 2015 05:21
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Unguided posted:The inmates are running the asylum. Anyone have a link to that page? I can get PMs if you don't want to put it in here, I just don't know where/what we're talking about. 
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https://wiki.wesleyguide.com/goon_guides/leaks
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Also, if we're revamping poo poo, bump up XP to where it was back when people were grinding romulan patrols. Then turn specialization points into an 8 hour crafting or rep project, with expertise as the crafting component. That satisfies the 'player shouldn't progress too fast' fetish without being an insane grind
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[post reading the link] I guess that determined my spending strategy. I'll probably ditch the account once things get worse, and play with the cheapie account.
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Weird, I registered an account but it still won't let me pull up that page. Oh well.
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Mar 4, 2015 06:30
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Jethro_E7 posted:[post reading the link] That's been my spending strategy ever since the Delta expansion came out and they made such a clusterfuck of it. Not another penny for them, thankfully I wasn't a big spender to begin with.
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Mar 4, 2015 06:32
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Tunicate posted:Then turn specialization points into an 8 hour crafting or rep project, with expertise as the crafting component. But specialization levels don't have that gating, so of course people were going to blitz it hard as soon as they could, and of course Cryptic would wind up nerfing XP due to this because they wanted it to be a long term reward. But this doesn't solve the core issue, so after a few back and forth repetitions we've wound up with the current situation of leveling being slow and tedious for everyone and it basically being impossible to meaningfully gain specialization points on more than one character at a time. This end result should have been blindingly obvious to any competent developer while it was in the design phase, so why did it launch like this? The developer who forced it out was a dumb fucker.
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Asimo posted:Specializations in general seem to be the most baffling thing. Like I've said before, Cryptic already had the perfect system for long-term gated progress in the reputation system. It's really quite clever as those things go; advancing the reputation takes very little playtime, but the daily cooldowns give a minimum length before you're done. The relatively low requirements means it's not a big deal for people to pop in and poke at it, and presumably get involved in other content, see sales or events, or whatever else in the meanwhile. And beyond that you still need the marks to buy the rewards at the end, but you can do that at your own pace in the meanwhile, binging it over a weekend or doing a queue a day or just ignoring it entirely if you want. The reputation system stuff also has the added bonus of enticing people to log in every day, even if it's just to set up a new project.
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Mar 4, 2015 06:55
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Game dead. Good night sweet space prince. (To close the game faster you need to buy a 1000 zen option.)
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WarLocke posted:Weird, I registered an account but it still won't let me pull up that page. Oh well. We gotta manually authorise your account. Let me know your account name and I'll authorise you.
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The real question is, what the gently caress do we play now?
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SKY COQ posted:Honestly it doesn't seem that difficult on paper. Launch a new expansion focused on something universally loved - TNG. Promo it being all about the players, making the endgame accessible and encouraging players by taking the above suggestions re ship and item levelling. That basically means exploration and I don't think anyone really wants to see what Genesis Missions v2 would look like. Dootman posted:They already hosed up the game on launch, spent more than three years digging themselves out of that hole only to flush all that work right back down the drain. You mean three years doing nothing, trying to ditch Atari, then collecting some money purely based on Star Trek name recognition while putting all their resources into Neverwinter? The only real effort expended into STO was for LoR. The real sad part is the best improvement during those three years was Heretic creating the doff system and that was a labor of love he did on his own time, not on the clock.
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Well, I do think the recent boff changes were legit improvement. Now to just do away with boff traits as those are useless on like, 99% boffs. And quality too.
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Mondian posted:That basically means exploration and I don't think anyone really wants to see what Genesis Missions v2 would look like. I didn't say they were intentionally digging themselves out of that hole. Certainly in retrospect, that was a complete accident. Edit: ^^ Yeah, the new boff system is the only legitimate net improvement this game has seen in more than a year.
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Other than xmas/summer events i no longer play but the only thing i'm going miss from this game was the ship combat. Now i just hit things with lightsabres and stuff. 
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Just Another Lurker posted:Other than xmas/summer events i no longer play but the only thing i'm going miss from this game was the ship combat. I'm thinking that might be the route I take.
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wdarkk posted:So uh what other options are there in Space MMO town, assuming I don't want to fly a starfighter? Just EVE and Elite? You can spend your hard earned money on SC: Dreams of tomorrow, Buyer's remorse today. Choose a pretty ship and make zoom zoom noises while staring at it in a hangar.
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Mondian posted:You mean three years doing nothing, trying to ditch Atari, then collecting some money purely based on Star Trek name recognition while putting all their resources into Neverwinter? The only real effort expended into STO was for LoR. The real sad part is the best improvement during those three years was Heretic creating the doff system and that was a labor of love he did on his own time, not on the clock. It's part of what made the massive failures of the Delta Rising content so spectacular in comparison. Even if it's still obvious too much was pulled from STO to be dumped into the shitpile of Neverwinter though, yes.
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Yeah, they did a lot of QoL improvements, too. Streamlining reps, alt friendly tokens, giving the rep alt discount. The reworked traits system was a step up too, even if it didn't go far enough splitting ground and space stuff. It really looked like they were paying off their technical debt and making things work better. And yeah everything with the dyson sphere was great.
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Hunh, the store is kind of a mess (how hard would it be to have a 'everything I can claim' tab instead of making me look through all of them?) and I forgot that at some point I bought the Steam pack thing that gives you a t1 and t5 Steamrunner escort.  Also had a reward box for linking a Perfect World account, apparently a once-per-account claim so whatever.
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SKY COQ posted:The real question is, what the gently caress do we play now? Well in a week I'm going to play the CBT for Skyforge because I didn't learn my lesson playing Archeage. Will let you all know how that works out in mumble I guess.
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Asimo posted:That's not entirely fair. No, not really, but what's my incentive to be fair? Anyway, I was very clearly talking about the first three years. Post LoR, we had about 12-18 months of good times, I certainly won't deny that. So this whole game was put together with two years of effort by dozens of different people that didn't/couldn't/wouldn't talk to each other and no one really knew what was going on or how anything worked and had constantly changing orders and now its all falling apart. Who woulda thought.
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CashEnsign posted:You can spend your hard earned money on SC: Dreams of tomorrow, Buyer's remorse today. Choose a pretty ship and make zoom zoom noises while staring at it in a hangar. You must have been away. FPS releases shortly amd Arena Commander is quite flyable.
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I'm at work and cannot read the wiki because I forgot my password, can someone PM me what everyone is talking about on the leaks page please? Cheers. Edit - Welp. Lord Ludikrous fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Ludicro posted:I'm at work and cannot read the wiki because I forgot my password, can someone PM me what everyone is talking about on the leaks page please? Cheers. Yyyyyyyyyup.
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This is a great time for everyone to scout out other MMOs we can collectively
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