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The number on Evolving Wilds is 248 out of 264, leaving room for 16 cards. I guess there could be 3 basic land arts, but since there are 5 basics there have to be exactly 5, 10, or 15 basics in the set. Khans had 4 of each art (20 cards), and FRF had 2 of each (10). I guess since Dragons is 5 smaller than Khans (264 vs 269) there are probably 3 arts, and I bet the other non-basic will be the third "of the Spirit Dragon" land to go with Tomb and Crucible. Throne Room?
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Boco_T posted:The number on Evolving Wilds is 248 out of 264, leaving room for 16 cards. I guess there could be 3 basic land arts, but since there are 5 basics there have to be exactly 5, 10, or 15 basics in the set. Khans had 4 of each art (20 cards), and FRF had 2 of each (10). I guess since Dragons is 5 smaller than Khans (264 vs 269) there are probably 3 arts, and I bet the other non-basic will be the third "of the Spirit Dragon" land to go with Tomb and Crucible. Throne Room? I guess its possible there's only 2 of each land due to Fate Reforged having basic land, which I don't think they normally do for small sets.
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# ? Mar 4, 2015 23:00 |
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They haven't done the thing where all the dead dragons on the fetches are now alive, right? Kinda makes them an autoinclude imo.
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Hmm so anyone know why Flusterstorm has spiked to 62 TCG low in the last day?
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# ? Mar 4, 2015 23:03 |
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When we get the Arcana article that tells us how many Basics are in the set (or any article showing a non-basic in a slot we expected a Basic, like #252 or something) we'll know (roughly) how many non-basics are in the set but until then it's all wild speculation.
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mcmagic posted:Hmm so anyone know why Flusterstorm has spiked to 62 TCG low in the last day? It's either a meta shift, a "price correction" , or rampant speculation.
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Angry Grimace posted:Well, obviously, you are smarter and better at Magic than I am; I imagine you are also better looking. You're right, it's more beneficial to the thread to actually discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of U/W Control. In my opinion, U/W is still a perfectly viable color combination for control right now, but the biggest thing standing in its way was that U/B was just better. Narset (and maybe that new Command card) have the potential to tip that balance. U/W doesn't have access to the good removal and hand disruption that black provides, but it does get to play Elspeth, which is just a powerful enough catch-all card that it might be worth the trade off. Narset fills the same slot Jace, AoT did in a lot of ways, and what Ashiok does right now in U/B, namely, drawing combat damage away from you and towards it, and providing incremental card advantage. You know how hard it is to kill Ashiok via pure combat damage if it comes down on T3. Narset is the same for T4. NO opponent will ignore Narset while she's on the board and they know you're playing control. Narset's ceiling seems much higher than Ashiok or Jace, AoT, however. Using her -2 on ANY draw spell in your deck is insane (even Divination). The biggest liability with End Hostilities or Crux right now is that they deploy a big threat after you have to tap out for it on T5. Narset allows a sweeper effect 2 turns in a row, giving the control player time to untap and hold counterspells up, or just deploy Elspeth for defense. Her +1 will be just as good as Domri's +1 was in Standard, which was nuts. It also makes your fetches slightly better, as if you know your top card is a land, you can crack to not draw it next turn. 4 mana, starts at 7 loyalty, every ability is good. This card will make U/W Control A THING again.
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Cernunnos posted:When we get the Arcana article that tells us how many Basics are in the set (or any article showing a non-basic in a slot we expected a Basic, like #252 or something) we'll know (roughly) how many non-basics are in the set but until then it's all wild speculation. Do we even get that before the whole set is spoiled? I thought they had that on the Tuesday before Prerelease?
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mcmagic posted:Hmm so anyone know why Flusterstorm has spiked to 62 TCG low in the last day? LOL what. I only remembered them as $15 easy pickups and never cared beyond that. I have an extra 8 of these. Hello new boxing gloves and computer.
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Zoness posted:It's either a meta shift, a "price correction" , or rampant speculation. I hope it shows up on buylists. I have like 12. Chill la Chill posted:LOL what. I only remembered them as $15 easy pickups and never cared beyond that. I have an extra 8 of these. Hello new boxing gloves and computer. How do you type with them on?
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# ? Mar 4, 2015 23:11 |
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Real question: why did they stop doing the orb of insight? That thing owned.
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# ? Mar 4, 2015 23:12 |
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I need someone to explain to me why Esper, or just U/B splash white for Narset, is so obviously a nonstarter. Is it literally just that the wedges have a triland and a shard doesn't?
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JerryLee posted:I need someone to explain to me why Esper, or just U/B splash white for Narset, is so obviously a nonstarter. Is it literally just that the wedges have a triland and a shard doesn't? IDK. You have 8 fetchlands for Esper plus 12 temples.... I have no idea why it's not viable. (thought I think Narset would be better in a Jeskai Control shell...)
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Snacksmaniac posted:I hope it shows up on buylists. I have like 12. I enable dictation LOL if you don't phone post.
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JerryLee posted:I need someone to explain to me why Esper, or just U/B splash white for Narset, is so obviously a nonstarter. Is it literally just that the wedges have a triland and a shard doesn't? The most common U/B variant is running 28 lands, and Fetchlands are lovely fixing if you can't get a shock off it. There's a reason U/B control was just trying to win without a Wrath at all prior to Crux getting printed, and a reason Esper Control was less popular than U/W control even when Shocks were in Standard. Edit: Goddamn does this post have a lot of randomly capitalized words. It looks like a Jaden Smith Twitter post. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Snacksmaniac posted:I hope it shows up on buylists. I have like 12. If it is rampant speculation, which seems most likely, it will be impossible to move at the inflated price but will hold price memory and never see any movement at the goofy temporary inflation. Remember when River of Tears and Secluded Glen were "$25"?
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Hey DTK is an allied colored set and U/W are allied colors maybe we should see the whole set before we discuss the merits of this allied color control deck that doesn't currently exist but might after other allied cards are revealed.
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uggy posted:Hey DTK is an allied colored set and U/W are allied colors maybe we should see the whole set before we discuss the merits of this allied color control deck that doesn't currently exist but might after other allied cards are revealed. I have this alternate plan where we talk about Magic in the Magic thread and don't get worked up over the fact that something may make you wrong later. The color pie is so rarely broken you can usually predict accurately that neither white nor blue is getting Thoughtseize or Hero's Downfall. Obviously, I'll be wrong if a Sphinx's Revelation reprint shows up in DTK. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Heh, on the topic of 4 cmc walkers that reminds me that people thought the Ajani and Jace were going to see real play. Perhaps we can assemble the dreamtime combo of Jace, Ajani and Narset! Also I wonder if the new Sarkhan (assuming it is him, and not just a sorcery with his face on it) will go back to RG. You know, to show he has come full circle?
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Spiderdrake posted:Heh, on the topic of 4 cmc walkers that reminds me that people thought the Ajani and Jace were going to see real play.
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I mean I want a Form of the Dragon reprint.
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this will go great in my mono red edh deck
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Hey not sure if this is the right board but i figured id ask since i couldnt find any other one. I was at a draft yesterday, and im just getting reacquainted with the game. Anyway i was playing some guy who wasnt paying attention and ended up drawing out hos entire library. On his final turn, with no cards in his library, he activated tasigurs ability which is: "Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then return a nonland card of an opponent's choice from your graveyard to your hand." My question is basically should he have been able to use the ability even though he had no cards to put into the graveyard.
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RME posted:this will go great in my mono red edh deck Norin the Wary DOES benefit from a 1 drop that bounces itself doesn't he!
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RME posted:this will go great in my mono red edh deck I'm starting to suspect you don't actually have all these EDH decks.
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ScreamingNinja posted:Hey not sure if this is the right board but i figured id ask since i couldnt find any other one. I was at a draft yesterday, and im just getting reacquainted with the game. Anyway i was playing some guy who wasnt paying attention and ended up drawing out hos entire library. On his final turn, with no cards in his library, he activated tasigurs ability which is: "Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then return a nonland card of an opponent's choice from your graveyard to your hand." Putting two cards in your graveyard is not a cost or requirement to use Tasigur's ability. He can use the ability even with nothing to put into his graveyard; he doesn't lose because you have to actually attempt a draw from an empty library to lose.
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ScreamingNinja posted:Hey not sure if this is the right board but i figured id ask since i couldnt find any other one. I was at a draft yesterday, and im just getting reacquainted with the game. Anyway i was playing some guy who wasnt paying attention and ended up drawing out hos entire library. On his final turn, with no cards in his library, he activated tasigurs ability which is: "Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then return a nonland card of an opponent's choice from your graveyard to your hand." Yes. There's no conditionals there, and you don't put the cards into your graveyard as a cost, so it just does as much as it can.
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Elyv posted:Yes. There's no conditionals there, and you don't put the cards into your graveyard as a cost, so it just does as much as it can. Thanks! I just wasnt sure. I still beat his rear end by making him draw down to nothing so i feel good. Love laying a good smack down, especially when the guy is talking poo poo just because im new.
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Risen Executioner Creature - Zombie Warrior Risen Executioner can't block. Other Zombie creatures you control get +1/+1. You may cast Risen Executioner from your graveyard if you pay an additional (1) for each other creature card in your graveyard.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I'm starting to suspect you don't actually have all these EDH decks. I wish someone had thought of a similar line of jokes about peoples niche decks before, but you have to hand it to him.
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Angry Grimace posted:
Random tribal lord at Mythic?
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Hellsau posted:Random tribal lord at Mythic? Seems like a weird Sidisi, Brood Tyrant nonbo, although if *only* there was a way to get creature cards out of your Graveyard.
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I really like the design on this. I probably wouldn't run it over any of the current one-drops that don't need any mana investment to have 2 power, but the way it can hit the board hard at any stage of the game and own planeswalkers is cool.
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Angry Grimace posted:The big troll will be when that "new Sarkhan," is just a Form of the Dragon reprint. (yes, I know Sarkhan is already on a printing of FOTD) Also, re: Narset - I think she'll be absolutely insane in UW heroic but I don't know how UW heroic is doing overall. I see like 1-2 people playing it (or something like it) every week but that's it.
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Yawgmoth posted:What about a reprint of the original Sarkhan Vol? It gets wrecked by Merciless Executioner in boards, which kind of keeps it down a bit.
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Angry Grimace posted:
Like, I get that it interacts with Delve favorably but I'm really eh on this.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I'm starting to suspect you don't actually have all these EDH decks. ???? Angry Grimace posted:
this will go great in my zombie edh deck
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Really. I could see WUG Walkers that is just a reversion to the earlier Walker decks pre-Khans. Caryatid/Courser core with Ajani (Mentor), Narset, Elspeth, and Nissa. That sounds pretty loving scary, honestly. Edit: Think of this. Turn 1: Scryland Turn 2: Caryatid Turn 3: Narset (good luck killing her short of Downfall) Turn 4: End Hostilities Turn 5: (Rebound End Hostilities) Ajani/Nissa/Value Town Turn 6: Break face AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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forbidden lesbian posted:Like, I get that it interacts with Delve favorably but I'm really eh on this.
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Angry Grimace posted:
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