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To my defense it feels like there's not really a rhyme or reason to whether wotc decides to put on immediate returning vs end of turn returning onto a card. I saw 4/4 and exile self on a spell cast and I immediately thought of Hikari, Twilight Guardian (man that card was sweet if also unplayable) and -then- aetherling. Then I did another read-through and realized that none of my dreams could come true.
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Angry Grimace posted:Someone at Wizards has a huge loving hard-on for running a Kung-Fu Monks deck full of Mythics. Kung-Fu Monks > Big dumb unplayable Dragons.
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That seems more toward the spectrum of bad since the flicker ability isn't til eot but also comes back tapped, but man oh man is it hard to win race if that monk goes active.Entropic posted:This is what spoiler season is for: reading all the cards really quickly and excitedly and getting the wrong assumptions out of the way now, so we're not doing it during the pre-release.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:20
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Seriously, you can curve out 2-3-4 with white human mythic monks (this is some Nissa/Hitler white privilege poo poo going on here) This might be critical mass where such a deck is a good idea, even. Soulfire Grand Master - Monastery Mentor - Ojutai Exemplar as your 12 creatures. The rest of the deck are rebounds, cantrips and Raise the Alarm effects. And Narset 
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Mar 5, 2015 17:20
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Get the gently caress in my Sisay EDH deck. Would I be crazy to replace Dosan with this since he eats a counter half the time anyway? C-Euro fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Mar 5, 2015 17:21
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 quote:Shikiri Raptor So the phoenix turns over and suddenly raptors everywhere! I think this might actually be good? It's certainly cool anyway. Raptorvine.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:23
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Lets just give gnarled mass deathtouch because I mean gnarled mass isn't constructed playable any more but goddamn thats a hell of a rider to stick on one. Also how stupidly unbeatable is this thing in draft holy poo poo.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:24
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Spiderdrake posted:
Dredgevine if Dredgevine wasn't very scary because it requires a non-constructed level effect to work and again, I'm pretty slow to be excited about limited fodder at mythic.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:26
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Spiderdrake posted:
Throw that right into mono G devotion, holy moley.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:26
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I think Extemplars are perfect for RW Aggro.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:27
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I hope they put an uncommon build-morphs-around-me card like Secret Plans in this set.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:27
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Entropic posted:My hope for the next year of standard is that there's an actually competive deck for which I'll be able to write "(Everybody Was) Kung Fu Fighting" as the deck name on a GPT deck registration sheet. Then they just call it "Jeskai Monk Aggro" or whatever in the coverage
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Mar 5, 2015 17:28
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Zoness posted:Lets just give gnarled mass deathtouch because Its Mythic so your chances of ever seeing it are low. Unless its Ugin's Nexus all over again where they say its Mythic but you keep getting them. Spiderdrake posted:That seems more toward the spectrum of bad since the flicker ability isn't til eot but also comes back tapped, but man oh man is it hard to win race if that monk goes active. I think there's gonna be a U/W deck with a low creature count and a ton of cantrips and rebounds. See, that's the deck Narset goes in. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Mar 5, 2015 17:28
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Angry Grimace posted:Its Mythic so your chances of ever seeing it are low. Unless its Ugin's Nexus all over again where they say its Mythic but you keep getting them. I'm pretty sure Ugin's nexus is actually an uncommon with a printing error.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:30
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Spiderdrake posted:
This guy goes into Whisperwood/Mastery of the Unseen decks. And he will be loving disgusting in it.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:32
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Angry Grimace posted:Someone at Wizards has a huge loving hard-on for running a Kung-Fu Monks deck full of Mythics. "Everybody was Kung-Fu fighting, my paycheck goes as fast as lightning..."
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Mar 5, 2015 17:32
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Spiderdrake posted:
The only explanation for the raptor looking like a weirdly mangled... idk thing... is that it has been reanimated too many times.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:37
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Zero_Grade posted:And look at that goofy-rear end expression on its face!
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Mar 5, 2015 17:38
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I love that he's an Ironclaw Orc, with an additional drawback and additional upside, for 1 mana less. I love callbacks to early Magic, even when they do things like Treasure Cruise. The other cards spoiled today are all cards I'd be delighted to play in Limited, though I don't have any other decks to fit them into right now.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:39
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Cactrot posted:I'm pretty sure Ugin's nexus is actually an uncommon with a printing error. Speak for yourselves, I'm at 1 Ugin's Nexus, 3 Ugin, and 1 foil Ugin.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:39
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New Dromolka cements me building Bant superfriends. It will like fold to everything but it will destroy UB control and that alone will be worth it. Come on 1G ramp spell...
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Mar 5, 2015 17:40
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The raptor makes me consider playing those "reveal a card" morphers from khans.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:41
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Perfect in my dinosaur edh deck.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:41
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Angry Grimace posted:Its Mythic so your chances of ever seeing it are low. Unless its Ugin's Nexus all over again where they say its Mythic but you keep getting them. There's mythics where if one is opened in the draft you have a 1/8 chance of seeing it because it's a snap first pick, and some where if one is opened in a draft you have an 8/8 chance of seeing it because it will table every time. Ugin's Nexus is in the latter category.
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Entropic posted:There's mythics where if one is opened in the draft you have a 1/8 chance of seeing it because it's a snap first pick, and some where if one is opened in a draft you have an 8/8 chance of seeing it because it will table every time. Ugin's Nexus is in the latter category.  (we know that, its just a joke about how often you see the card in drafts despite being "mythic") mr. mephistopheles posted:New Dromolka cements me building Bant superfriends. It will like fold to everything but it will destroy UB control and that alone will be worth it. Does it though? Seems like in a lot of control games, they'll have wiped your board on turn 5 and then have single target removal waiting on their turn 6, in which case Dromoka has done nothing.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:43
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My favorite thing about Ugin's Nexus is that you can't even get an extra turn by casting two and Legend ruling one of them out. They couldn't have made it "whenever an opponent..."? Although under the old Legend rule you would have got two extra turns that way.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:45
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Balon posted:The raptor makes me consider playing those "reveal a card" morphers from khans.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:46
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Still waiting on a dragon better than Stormbreath Dragon in this dragon set, WOTC. You're kind of running out of Mythic slots to put this mystery dragon in.
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Mar 5, 2015 17:46
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Spiderdrake posted:
Bring back the dinosaur type wizards they weren't lizards you fucKS
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New Drokoma is neat and will totally go into Scion of the Ur-Dragon. You know, like every dragon. Zurgo is a really good one drop god drat. The Raptor looks alright I guess. I think Exemplars is going to make people really sad.
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Count Bleck posted:New Drokoma is neat and will totally go into Scion of the Ur-Dragon. You know, like every dragon. Exemplars is actually worse than Mentor even though a lot of people poo poo on Mentor for being 2/2 and not pooping monks on his own. It costs 4 and doesn't trigger Prowess on any of your other guys. A much better play in that slot is probably just casting Narset.
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Entropic posted:My favorite thing about Ugin's Nexus is that you can't even get an extra turn by casting two and Legend ruling one of them out. They couldn't have made it "whenever an opponent..."? The trick is to then shatter or naturalize the other one for maximum jank.
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If you listened to Red Hot Chili Peppers growing up and don't refer to a Monk tribal deck as Funky Monks then I will fight you.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Bring back the dinosaur type wizards to keep in line with the flavor of reanimated dinosaurs wouldn't they also be part frog?
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Angry Grimace posted:Exemplars is actually worse than Mentor even though a lot of people poo poo on Mentor for being 2/2 and not pooping monks on his own. It costs 4 and doesn't trigger Prowess on any of your other guys. A much better play in that slot is probably just casting Narset. Hey probably. I'm not okay with all these mythic slots being filled with rare quality cards to be honest. Just spoil Surrak the Hunt Caller already. Also the new Sarkhan.
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Angry Grimace posted:Does it though? Seems like in a lot of control games, they'll have wiped your board on turn 5 and then have single target removal waiting on their turn 6, in which case Dromoka has done nothing. They have to cast the kill spell on their turn, which is not insignificant against a control deck. That can put them on the back foot for a while in the right situation.
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Entropic posted:My hope for the next year of standard is that there's an actually competive deck for which I'll be able to write "(Everybody Was) Kung Fu Fighting" as the deck name on a GPT deck registration sheet. I was hoping for more good instant-speed spells to put in a deck built around Soulfire Grand Master, such that we could have "Grand Master Flash"
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Meatbag Esq. posted:The trick is to then shatter or naturalize the other one for maximum jank. The real trick is to play it with Goblin Welder and then pay R and tap it to take another turn and get back your scariest artifact creature that got put in your graveyard. Because you are all about that Daretti EDH life.
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bhsman posted:If you listened to Red Hot Chili Peppers growing up and don't refer to a Monk tribal deck as Funky Monks then I will fight you. there are no monks in my hand
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