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No one knows what fridging means. Its not a term that is used in comic books, its only really used outside. It would make no sense considering its based on a DC story.
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Mar 6, 2015 04:23
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Spider-man has seen the Nolan Batman films, I'm sure they know what fridging is.
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Mar 6, 2015 04:31
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It's nearly as ham-fisted as someone in a Spider-Man comic saying "Dan Slott? Man, I love that guy!" The only people who would know what "fridging" is are people who follow Gail religiously, or post very regularly on places like 4chan, SA, ect. A casual comic book fan is not going to know what fridging is.
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Mar 6, 2015 05:49
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Flameingblack posted:It's nearly as ham-fisted as someone in a Spider-Man comic saying "Dan Slott? Man, I love that guy!" Did...did this happen?
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Mar 6, 2015 05:51
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Flameingblack posted:The only people who would know what "fridging" is are people who follow Gail religiously, or post very regularly on places like 4chan, SA, ect. A casual comic book fan is not going to know what fridging is. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffedIntoTheFridge http://www.themarysue.com/fridging-supercut/ http://www.feministfrequency.com/2011/04/tropes-vs-women-2-women-in-refrigerators/ http://www.comicvine.com/women-in-refrigerators/4015-43763/ http://fanlore.org/wiki/Women_in_Refrigerators http://www.slashfilm.com/christopher-nolans-longstanding-practice-of-fridging-female-characters/ https://ladygeekgirl.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/breaking-out-of-the-fridge-subverting-womens-victimization-in-pop-culture/ People know what fridging means, grandpa.
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Mar 6, 2015 06:10
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Is there even such a thing as a casual comic book fan? I would assume that term doesn't really apply to any niche market.
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Mar 6, 2015 06:11
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Lurdiak posted:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffedIntoTheFridge CharlestheHammer posted:Is there even such a thing as a casual comic book fan?
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Mar 6, 2015 06:14
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My roommate's entire comic book reading experience is basically Chris Ware, Daniel Clowes, James Kochalka, Kate Beaton, random other indie books, and about half of the Invisibles, but she pays attention to the Internet and likes sci-fi/fantasy television and film and she is familiar with the term "fridging" and has used it to describe the treatment of female characters in fiction outside of superhero comics.
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Mar 6, 2015 06:33
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Edge & Christian posted:My roommate's entire comic book reading experience is basically Chris Ware, Daniel Clowes, James Kochalka, Kate Beaton, random other indie books, and about half of the Invisibles, but she pays attention to the Internet and likes sci-fi/fantasy television and film and she is familiar with the term "fridging" and has used it to describe the treatment of female characters in fiction outside of superhero comics.
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Mar 6, 2015 06:40
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Spider-Gwen is a comic nerd, gimmie my no-prize
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Mar 6, 2015 06:45
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It was in Daily Life, which is a FairFax publication, which means it got shared around to all major Australian papers. http://www.dailylife.com.au/dl-people/dl-entertainment/superheroes-need-to-stop-fridging-their-girlfriends-20150214-13dwu1.html
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Mar 6, 2015 06:51
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CharlestheHammer posted:No one knows what fridging means. DC comics do exist in the Marvel universe tough. Characters like Batman and Superman get referenced frequently.
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Mar 6, 2015 07:03
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Decius posted:DC comics do exist in the Marvel universe tough. Characters like Batman and Superman get referenced frequently. They've also crossed into the MU a few times. Hawkeye called the Justice League a crappy ripoff of the Squadron Supreme.
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Mar 6, 2015 07:05
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Decius posted:DC comics do exist in the Marvel universe tough. Characters like Batman and Superman get referenced frequently. Vice versa is also true, there's been at least a few times where characters like the Flash have mentioned X-Men comics or the like. Or even movies. It seems to be a mutual tongue in cheek thing they both do, where each other exist as comics in their universe.
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Mar 6, 2015 09:13
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Flameingblack posted:My brother owns the entirety of 52, and a bunch of Batman TPB (Almost every notable one), I asked him what fridging means and he has no idea? It just depends on if a person really follows comics on the internet or not. At that point it's less leisure and more hobby isn't it Yeah fridging is a comic book term and used by a specific audience. This is all just Hopeless' writing which comes off poorly a lot of the time. I mean you can go into long winded arguments about whether Gwen should know about fridging but that doesn't explain other 4th wall breaking bits/forcing references for a specific audience. Like how last issue Carol was going on about how everybody will be so happy Jess is changing her "awful" costume while she's oblivious to it and then has the next issues she's going on about how embarrassing it was from googling the Manara cover. It all comes off as bad pandering to a specific audience rather than naturally expanding a books reach. Then all that aside you have the compare and contrast with how Spider-Verse ended for Peter and for Jess. Peter ended with him realising that there is no big or small or "normal" crimefighting, as long as he's helping people that's all that matters. Jess leaves the event wanting to get back to a normal life by just punching random z listers, which turns out she's poo poo at.
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Mar 6, 2015 09:58
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Waterhaul posted:Yeah fridging is a comic book term and used by a specific audience. Fridging is a comic book term, but in recent years I've seen it referenced more and more in other 'fandoms' such as those for TV shows; it's a useful shorthand that's grown beyond its original context. That doesn't make the line any less clunky - though admittedly I laughed at it - but to say "only comic nerds know this turn of phrase" is a little myopic.
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Mar 6, 2015 10:03
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Fridging is a comic book term, but in recent years I've seen it referenced more and more in other 'fandoms' such as those for TV shows; it's a useful shorthand that's grown beyond its original context. The fact that it's referenced in "fandoms" kind of highlights it's a dumb comic term that only a specific audience uses though. You can rephrase it to geek/nerd instead of comic audience. Like it's not a term people use casual outside of nerdy stuff.
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Mar 6, 2015 10:21
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Who outside of the nerdy audience is reading Spider-Woman, exactly?
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Mar 6, 2015 10:27
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Lurdiak posted:Who outside of the nerdy audience is reading Spider-Woman, exactly? I said specific nerdy/comic/whatever audience. Not everybody that reads comics or potentially could read comics uses terms like fridging or fandom or what have you. It's basically just a bad attempt at pandering rather than in something like Batgirl which feels like a genuine attempt to appeal to a broader audience.
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Mar 6, 2015 10:38
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If it works it's not really a bad attempt, is it?
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Mar 6, 2015 10:54
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Blockhouse posted:If it works it's not really a bad attempt, is it? I guess it depends what you define by works. It'll need to wait and see how the sales are on the book to see if it's a commercial success, i just don't think creatively it works.
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Mar 6, 2015 11:09
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And when Spider-man is cancelled for low sales, THAT will be conclusive proof that it happened because one time a character talked about fridging! Least we forget this all occured during Spider-verse, a story which was about finding a way to get every iteration of Spider-man ever involved in one story. And when you start bringing in non-comic versions of a character into a comic story, the fourth wall has to get punched as part of the joke. If you are putting in the movie Spider-man(s) you have to make a joke about how they look like Toby Maguire or Andrew Garfield. Since otherwise how will the audience know which iteration of Spider-man you are talking about? The same for Newspaper Spider-man, Capcom Spider-man or Ultimate Animated Spider-man. The story was always going to have elements of fun in it. It's not like in the middle of a serious domestic violence storyline, Gwen makes fridging jokes.
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Mar 6, 2015 13:05
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The Question IRL posted:And when Spider-man is cancelled for low sales, THAT will be conclusive proof that it happened because one time a character talked about fridging! Sadly there wasn't nearly as much fun as a book advertised as 'every Spider-Man ever' should have (at least not in the main book). They somehow managed to squander a loving giant robot. HOW DO YOU DO THAT? gently caress Morlun merry murderspree, I want to just see alternate Spider-Men team up and bounce off each other. I want to see Kaine trying to be hardcore except Ben Reilly won't let him. I want to see Miles MoraIes shoot the poo poo with Peter again. I want to see Spider-Gwen & the anarchic Spider-Man rib each other over their taste in music. I want to see Spider-Ham & Leopardon defeat a Pym-Particle-abusing alternate Sinister 6 through the use of gargantuan Hostess Fruit Pies while Superior Spider-Man is outraged at the absurdity of it all.
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Mar 6, 2015 13:50
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The Question IRL posted:The story was always going to have elements of fun in it. It's not like in the middle of a serious domestic violence storyline, Gwen makes fridging jokes. Because "fridging" is a term used to describe something in comics or other forms of media. What Gwen was essentially saying was "An alternate version of me was killed off by writers to add drama and motivation to the male hero by choosing to have me thrown off a bridge." So unless you're fine with calling real life murders of women that affects men as them getting fridged, it's a clumsy and hackneyed attempt at being meta.
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Mar 6, 2015 15:38
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Codependent Poster posted:Because "fridging" is a term used to describe something in comics or other forms of media. What Gwen was essentially saying was "An alternate version of me was killed off by writers to add drama and motivation to the male hero by choosing to have me thrown off a bridge." Besides, Gwen's comment was in the same event where Miles said "my life just jumped the shark."
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Mar 6, 2015 16:35
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You guys sure are mad about a throwaway line.
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Mar 6, 2015 16:44
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Castomira posted:I've used it in a (tongue-in-cheek) real-life context at least a couple times. Particularly because people in my community tend to have a much higher murder rate than the average, my best friend has said to me "please, don't get fridged to advance my character development."
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Mar 6, 2015 16:51
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Speaking of Miles how is the storyline with Miles in All New X-men?
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Mar 6, 2015 16:52
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bobkatt013 posted:Speaking of Miles how is the storyline with Miles in All New X-men? Not good.
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Mar 6, 2015 16:56
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Flameingblack posted:This whole argument is dumb but "Jumping the Shark" has been a phrase in the mainstream for decades and it's not even close to comparing it to something that happens in a niche community in a niche hobby.
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Mar 6, 2015 17:11
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Rhymenoserous posted:You guys sure are mad about a throwaway line. This is the same forum that got into a heated debate because Ms. Marvel referenced an internet meme.
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Mar 6, 2015 17:39
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Castomira posted:If what you're saying is that fridging only happens in comic books, I don't know what planet you live on. TwoPair posted:This is the same forum that got into a heated debate because Ms. Marvel referenced an internet meme.
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Mar 6, 2015 20:10
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Flameingblack posted:The phrase "Fridging" not the action of a female dying to advance a male's plot. Do I have really bad English or can goons have problems processing words?
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Mar 6, 2015 20:55
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TwoPair posted:This is the same forum that got into a heated debate because Ms. Marvel referenced an internet meme. wait, what
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Mar 6, 2015 23:24
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Goons hate memes because they are popular and thier inclusion in Ms. Marvel revealed that our old asses weren't the target audience. In summary: Dang whipersnappers with their memes! I'm still the core audience if they don't listen to me the won't get my haypenny! Why in my day potato salad hairbrushzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz SirDan3k fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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Mar 6, 2015 23:41
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BSS posters haven't talked to a teenager since they were teenagers, news at 11.
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Mar 6, 2015 23:42
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In other news, teen girl reads tumblr.
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Mar 6, 2015 23:43
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Focusing on a phrase like fridging is missing the forest for the trees of what was a poorly written issue that threw out a lot of character development for what will no doubt be an unacceptable attempt to duplicate Batgirls success. It's nothing to do with kid's nowadays or whatever goons are dumb meme people want to spout.
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Mar 7, 2015 00:26
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Goons lecturing people on how teens talk will always be funny. You all are so hip 
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Mar 7, 2015 01:28
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Waterhaul posted:Focusing on a phrase like fridging is missing the forest for the trees of what was a poorly written issue that threw out a lot of character development for what will no doubt be an unacceptable attempt to duplicate Batgirls success. Yeah, stupid Marvel trying to duplicate Batgirl's success, which was y'know, predicated on DC trying to ape Ms. Marvel's success and Marvel's success in that demographic in general and DC's long publicized inability to engage in that area. Uhhhh.
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