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Mercury Crusader posted:Finally, the removal spell red needs to get past Siege Rhino and Nyx-Fleece Ram. This card is gross as gently caress with Soulfire Grand Master. The article it's revealed in does say that it was specifically designed to gently caress Rhinos, Tasigur and Polukranos's. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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Elyv posted:Honestly, it might. I think the main thing missing from blue devotion since the departure of RTR block was Nightveil Specter, and this guy seems like an adequate replacement kinda also needs a good one drop, are there any in Blue?
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forbidden lesbian posted:kinda also needs a good one drop, are there any in Blue? Not really. the best you get is Hypnotic Siren or... I guess Dakra Mystic? Cloudfin Rapter and Judge's Familiar were so much better.
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forbidden lesbian posted:kinda also needs a good one drop, are there any in Blue? Dakra Mystic, Embodiment of Spring, Fugitive Wizard, Hypnotic Siren, Triton Shorestalker, Triton Shorethief, Vortex Elemental are the available blue 1 drops in standard. Of those the ones that would slot best into a deck like Mono blue devotion are Dakra Mystic for utility, Hypnotic Siren, for evasion and late game Mind Control and Triton Shorestalker for evasion. Of those, if a deck like this were to be good, Hypnotic Siren and Triton Shorestalker seem like the best bet
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forbidden lesbian posted:kinda also needs a good one drop, are there any in Blue? Hypnotic Siren. I really like Vortex Elemental, too, but both of those cards have upside that involves getting a bunch of mana. Madmarker posted:Dakra Mystic, Embodiment of Spring, Fugitive Wizard, Hypnotic Siren, Triton Shorestalker, Triton Shorethief, Vortex Elemental are the available blue 1 drops in standard. The lack of 2-drops is more of a concern though, I think. I mean, you can't really play Mindreaver. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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Madmarker posted:Dakra Mystic, Embodiment of Spring, Fugitive Wizard, Hypnotic Siren, Triton Shorestalker, Triton Shorethief, Vortex Elemental are the available blue 1 drops in standard. Shorestalker is strictly worse than that new uncommon megamorph guy, so that could potentially slot in at least.
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I mean, random creatures aside, there's also no Rapid Hybridization (Reality Shift is okay, but not great) or Domestication.
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mcmagic posted:In the aspect of existence? Existence is not a predicate.
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If there is going to be mono blue devotion it's going to be a very different beast than the old one. The curve just isn't there(Failing spoilers). The 1-3 drops with heavy blue are just so much worse than what we had.
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Angry Grimace posted:I mean, random creatures aside, there's also no Rapid Hybridization (Reality Shift is okay, but not great) or Domestication. Rapid Hybridization was super good in that deck just because of the "target active Thassa, get a free 3/3" mode, which Reality Shift doesn't do. I would be surprised if Master of Waves makes a Standard comeback.
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forbidden lesbian posted:I really wish they would stop trying to make warriors a thing It's probably the most fun archetype to draft.
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forbidden lesbian posted:I really wish they would stop trying to make warriors a thing wow this sounds like coward talk
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That megamorphling is sweet as all hell.
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End of Life Guy posted:It seems better as Hero's Downfall 5-6 with a tempo play of bouncing a land attached.
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Entropic posted:Rapid Hybridization was super good in that deck just because of the "target active Thassa, get a free 3/3" mode, which Reality Shift doesn't do. Megamorphling and Master of Waves themselves are a good enough combo to at least investigate, I think, although I'm pretty skeptical. There's always the option of just having a lot of annoying psuedo removal like Pin to the Earth/Encrust, etc. Zoness posted:wow this sounds like coward talk Its gonna make me sad when someone doesn't get this. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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mr. mephistopheles posted:It's probably the most fun archetype to draft. Sure, but I'd have loved that card with just being a Sacrifice of any creature instead of trying for some tribal synergy that looks out of place in the set all about dragons.
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Zoness posted:wow this sounds like coward talk what would happen if you made a card that was a Warrior Coward o.0
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Zoness posted:wow this sounds like coward talk Best post you've ever made. I approve. forbidden lesbian posted:what would happen if you made a card that was a Warrior Coward o.0 It couldn't block itself, or other warriors, if I may be so Boldwyr.
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2 Mana to kill your Siege Rhino or Tasigur in Red is great.
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forbidden lesbian posted:what would happen if you made a card that was a Warrior Coward o.0 
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mcmagic posted:2 Mana to kill your Siege Rhino or Tasigur in Red is great. Right now, the only relevant thing this doesn't kill is Stormbreath. Most of the dragons revealed so far seem like limited or timmy fodder too.
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Angry Grimace posted:
Not confirmed but lovely enough that it's likely real. E: it's real.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Not confirmed but lovely enough that it's likely real. The image is directly from Star City Games preorder. http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=1117281
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Angry Grimace posted:
That's just loving boring. At least they got the best Command. 
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Angry Grimace posted:The image is directly from Star City Games preorder. Yeah the person who initially posted didn't say where they got it.
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Angry Grimace posted:
For seven mana, having a beefier Bogardan Hellkite that can't dome the opponent seems incredibly underwhelming. They could have just made it cost eight and deal five to each creature and planeswalker the opponent controls. Making creatures just have a large power and toughness doesn't make them feel mythic.
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AlternateNu posted:That's just loving boring. Its like they didn't even try and just said, "let's make timmy cards and they'll be huge and expensive." Like, was there really no consideration to making it not completely uncastable without a ton of ramp and then have no relevant protection beyond a giant butt? Hellsau posted:For seven mana, having a beefier Bogardan Hellkite that can't dome the opponent seems incredibly underwhelming. They could have just made it cost eight and deal five to each creature and planeswalker the opponent controls. This is really bad design, not because it's not a working card, but because it commits the cardinal sin of MTG design of just being boring. All they did was make it big and staple the Bogardan Hellkite ability to it (e.g. a dragon ability that already exists) Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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While it can't dome the opponent, the bigger body plus trample somewhat makes up for that. Note that it can roast multiple planeswalkers, which is not something you often get to do with one card. I like that it turns on formidable all by itself, too.
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lol r/g gets boned on everything except the command everything owns
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Angry Grimace posted:
one time ETB trigger. Other dragons have ongoing effects. Thanks Obama.
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I can't believe there are people who think Sulimgar's Command is bad...
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mcmagic posted:I can't believe there are people who think Sulimgar's Command is bad... I don't think they think its bad, they hoped it would be 2UB and playable outside standard. i think 5cmc is probably just a bit to high for it to see play outside of standard. it is good. In standard.
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Angry Grimace posted:Megamorphling and Master of Waves themselves are a good enough combo to at least investigate, I think, although I'm pretty skeptical. There's always the option of just having a lot of annoying psuedo removal like Pin to the Earth/Encrust, etc. A lot of the power in the Mono-U deck really landed on Cloudfin Raptor. Being able to incrementally make an early flier huge was pretty big with regards to maintaining tempo. Mono-U was one of those decks where if you ever fell behind, you were going to lose. There were rarely any major tempo swings with that deck. And the creature base in this standard being so beefy, there isn't much of a chance the old deck comes back. Now, I can see a U/x deck coming around that has the Thassa/MoW/Megamorphling core, but it would likely be more midrangy. (Like everything in this standard.) Maybe Ephara can make a come back? She did see some play and interacts with Megamorphling's blink ability.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:
this will go great in my fake card edh deck this is already great in my edh decks Elyv posted:one of today's articles went up early oh man my friend really likes to play nissa in his EDH decks, I can't wait to punk him with bounce+kill pw this will be great in my edh decks Elyv posted:here are the other two: This will be great in my Cooking EDH deck Elyv posted:here are the other two: This will be great in my Supermen EDH deck Angry Grimace posted:
this will be great in my mathematics edh deck
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forbidden lesbian posted:I really wish they would stop trying to make warriors a thing someone doesn't dig it.
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Starving Autist posted:While it can't dome the opponent, the bigger body plus trample somewhat makes up for that. Note that it can roast multiple planeswalkers, which is not something you often get to do with one card. I like that it turns on formidable all by itself, too.
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RME posted:oh man my friend really likes to play nissa in his EDH decks, I can't wait to punk him with bounce+kill pw I just realized you can bounce lands with Silumgar's Command. That's....kind of killer if you can chain multiples of it.
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jassi007 posted:one time ETB trigger. Other dragons have ongoing effects. Thanks Obama. Honestly I'd rather have an ETB trigger than an ongoing effect on an expensive card like a dragonlord, at least you know for sure it'll actually do something.
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Angry Grimace posted:
She might see a little play either way though. She is big and has immediate impact. I just wish they'd gone for six mana and maybe made her a little smaller, like 7/6.
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