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noirstronaut posted:It's still there, just with ads. 8.2 is out. Holy crap is that icon for the Apple Watch App (a new default stock app you can't delete) ugly.
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Feenix posted:8.2 is out. Holy crap is that icon for the Apple Watch App (a new default stock app you can't delete) ugly. Really, another default app?
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Mar 9, 2015 21:15
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Feenix posted:8.2 is out. Holy crap is that icon for the Apple Watch App (a new default stock app you can't delete) ugly. Agreed. It's REALLY ugly. And yes, it's a default app. Can chuck it in a folder, but can't get rid of it.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:31
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Why would anyone want to hide one of Apple's glorious apps? They've won awards for design, you know!
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I don't know why they didn't put it on the store, it's not like they don't already have a collection of apps made by them and an ability to offer it the first time you open the app store.
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carry on then posted:I don't know why they didn't put it on the store, it's not like they don't already have a collection of apps made by them and an ability to offer it the first time you open the app store. Or they could just prompt you to install it when you try to connect a watch to the phone.
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Mar 9, 2015 22:14
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i take it there's no way to get rid of this atrocious new app?
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ICHIBAHN posted:i take it there's no way to get rid of this atrocious new app?
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Whirlwind Jones posted:Nope. Owned sperg. jokes on you, i love the app
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ICHIBAHN posted:jokes on you, i love the app
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Super Dude posted:Or they could just prompt you to install it when you try to connect a watch to the phone. The world's second most profitable company ain't gonna get to the top without upselling all their existing customers. 
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Mar 10, 2015 00:19
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bronin posted:Same here. I love that I don't need iTunes. Haven't even installed it ever (relatively new iPhone user here). Plugging in stuff is for old people. Yeah, you know, except for full backups. Please do full backups.
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tuyop posted:Yeah, you know, except for full backups. Please do full backups. Why would I need iTunes for that? iCloud backup works fine. I've restored several times from it with no issues.
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tuyop posted:Yeah, you know, except for full backups. Please do full backups.
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One backup is really the same as no backup. Two backups is the same as one... and so on.
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tuyop posted:One backup is really the same as no backup. Two backups is the same as one... and so on.
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Whirlwind Jones posted:What? If you think Apple has only one full-backup ever of their hosted service (iCloud), I suppose it would make sense.
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flosofl posted:I'm with you, what the hell does that have to do with doing backups with iTunes? He's basically saying since you can make two backups, do it. Couldn't hurt things to have a backup backup.
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Dewgy posted:He's basically saying since you can make two backups, do it. Couldn't hurt things to have a backup backup. Yup, but seriously iCloud backups involve certain tradeoffs and I guess if you're willing to make those tradeoffs instead of installing iTunes then that's cool too. I don't think iCloud backups are insecure.
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My wife's iphone (and ipad) stopped syncing yahoo mail this afternoon. I've tried deleting and re-adding the account but it didn't help. Both devices have been updated to ios 8.3.1. I didn't turn up much helpful information on Google. Any troubleshooting advice would be much appreciated.
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vulturesrow posted:Both devices have been updated to ios 8.3.1. 8.2 was just released today. Are they running betas of 8.3?
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tuyop posted:Yup, but seriously iCloud backups involve certain tradeoffs and I guess if you're willing to make those tradeoffs instead of installing iTunes then that's cool too. I don't think iCloud backups are insecure. Could you elaborate on those trade offs? Only thing that comes to mind is the 5GB limit if you don't pay for more storage. iCloud back up worked like a charm the 3 or 4 times I used it. Seriously, coming from android the first time I restored an iPhone with a backup was like some kinda magic.
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CaptainCaveman posted:8.2 was just released today. Are they running betas of 8.3? Sorry 8.2 is correct.
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bronin posted:Could you elaborate on those trade offs? Only thing that comes to mind is the 5GB limit if you don't pay for more storage. When you restore from an encrypted iTunes backup, your home screen layouts are restored, all your texts and emails and everything else from the time of your backup are restored, all your app data (saved games, files) and apps are restored without redownloading, including their login credentials (encrypted only), all of your music and photos are restored. It's seamless. The downsides are: iTunes (especially on Windows), HDD space (iTunes requires that your backups are stored locally in the system drive unless you do a workaround with symbolic links), the time a backup/restore takes (the restore can take like three hours depending on your music), having to plug it in because wifi sync/backup has never worked properly.
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tuyop posted:When you restore from an encrypted iTunes backup, your home screen layouts are restored, all your texts and emails and everything else from the time of your backup are restored, all your app data (saved games, files) and apps are restored without redownloading, including their login credentials (encrypted only), all of your music and photos are restored. It's seamless. Same with an iCloud backup, except for the fact all apps are downloaded again. But settings, credentials, data, all that stuff is there after a restore from iCloud. The having to redownload sucks because it takes more time, but still sucks less that using iTunes.
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Mar 10, 2015 13:46
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Yeah, iCloud backups have always done that. Almost every year I pick up my iPhone and let it restore to a backup while I'm at work.
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Does iCloud backup safe wifi passphrases and other passwords now? I know doing an encrypted backup via iTunes does.
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Yep, that's on iCloud keychain now. Enter a new wifi password and the login gets synched to all devices.
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Well, I mean, you'd need to remember whatever wifi password you'd use to connect to wifi to connect to iCloud.
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Mar 10, 2015 14:56
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In my experience, restoring from iCloud is markedly easier than restoring from an iTunes backup.
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Are the people in the anti-plug crowd just never offloading their videos? I'd have run out of space a long time ago if I wasn't plugging the phone to my computer now and then.
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Minidust posted:Are the people in the anti-plug crowd just never offloading their videos? I'd have run out of space a long time ago if I wasn't plugging the phone to my computer now and then. Airdrop works pretty drat well for offloading photos and videos.
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Minidust posted:Are the people in the anti-plug crowd just never offloading their videos? I'd have run out of space a long time ago if I wasn't plugging the phone to my computer now and then. Carousel, Photos Beta, OneDrive, etc. all work as offloading photos/videos. I haven't plugged my phone into my Macbook for years.
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Minidust posted:Are the people in the anti-plug crowd just never offloading their videos? I'd have run out of space a long time ago if I wasn't plugging the phone to my computer now and then. I use AirDrop to move things like that to and from my iDevices. I'm not saying iTunes doesn't work perfectly well for some people. It just using it to manage the iPhone and iPad irritates me enough that I actively seek out alternatives to using it. The only thing I ever use iTunes for (other than media playback) is managing Smart Playlists because those rock. With iTunes Match sub, the playlists are propagated automatically to my iPad/iPhone so no sync is required.
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iTunes is way better now than it was in the past. I hated using it with my iPod, hated using it with my iPhone 3G, but now it's cool. No complaints... yet. I actually use it as a music player now, but to be fair, it's replacing Winamp 5.
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tuyop posted:The downsides are: iTunes (especially on Windows), HDD space (iTunes requires that your backups are stored locally in the system drive unless you do a workaround with symbolic links), the time a backup/restore takes (the restore can take like three hours depending on your music), having to plug it in because wifi sync/backup has never worked properly. Also I believe you also need to have all the apps on your phone downloaded and in iTunes or they won't be restored. At least that was my experience when trying to upgrade to my iPhone 6.
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Minidust posted:Are the people in the anti-plug crowd just never offloading their videos? I'd have run out of space a long time ago if I wasn't plugging the phone to my computer now and then. Or they have a 128 GB phone.  I'd probably run out of iCloud space well before that so it's not very well thought through on my part, yeah.
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I don't really take many videos, but I have a 64 GB phone and have plenty of available space, so I don't really think too much about them. They're all auto-backed up in iCloud anyway, *shrug*.
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lelandjs posted:Airdrop works pretty drat well for offloading photos and videos. maduin posted:Carousel, Photos Beta, OneDrive, etc. all work as offloading photos/videos. I haven't plugged my phone into my Macbook for years. fordan posted:Also I believe you also need to have all the apps on your phone downloaded and in iTunes or they won't be restored. At least that was my experience when trying to upgrade to my iPhone 6.
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bronin posted:Same here. I love that I don't need iTunes. Haven't even installed it ever (relatively new iPhone user here). Plugging in stuff is for old people. Really the only downside for Google Music is no Last.FM scrobbling 
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